Looking to get the best 1911 I can with around $1000. I have narrowed it down to these 2. Would love to hear experiences from owners of these guns, and or other suggestions. Any info will be greatly appreciated.
Suppressors Sig Tac Ops 1911 vs Kimber Tactical Custom HD
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Re: Sig Tac Ops 1911 vs Kimber Tactical Custom HD
Have you seen the new E series from SW with the rail??
I own the Sig 1911R which is identical to the tacops only difference is Grips and single sided thumb safety and no magwell. I since added a magwell and grips so its virtually identical to the factory tac ops minus the Ambi safe.
Overall it is a quality firearm I had been hearing good things for awhile and decided to pick one up. It shoots better than I do and thus far has proven itself reliable. The factory mags are junk so toss them anyway. The factory trigger is decent for a factory production gun but its not anything that will take your breath away. Fit and finish is good overall and but from what I can tell the nitron finish is not the same nitron of old its holding up well but it lacks imo. But its definately a good gun for the money I ordered mine through buds police supply and all said and done probably saved 125$ over a factory tac ops model. I added a magwell from springfield since Sig would not sell me one factory direct and nobody stocks them.
Now for the dislikes. Sigs 1911s are sold on the notion of being well machined with tight tolerances.. like I said its well made but that claim is a bit overboard in my opinion its not on the same level as a custom gun or semi Custom for that matter. Les Baer, Wilson, Nighthawk, Even the TRPs so dont pick one up thinking it will be.
Im not a fan of the series 80 fps and plan on removing it at somepoint. I have no issues with the external extractor. Also the grip safety sucks given its design and actually prevents you from getting as high a grip as possible. Ive caught myself a few times on the range doing presentation drills and not being able to engage the grip safety and fire the weapn as the grip safety rides so low the weapon doesnt fully seat into my hand. (and yes its the weapon not the shooter in this case) So swapping it out and fitting another brand is a must IMO.
The 25lpi checkering on the front is done will and does its job however I have preferance towards 20LPI personally but 25 may be sufficient for you.
All in all its good quality firearms minus some of my personal gripes and If you pick one up in the mid 800 range or less its a good buy. Ive seen a few tac ops CPOs go in the low 700s so thats even better if you can snag one. but at around 1000 or more its not worth it. Your better off picking a TRP operator and getting a much higher quality firearm for only a few 100 more I think. Im a huge fan of TRPs but frankly I think their one the best factory production guns out there. Springfields reputation and customer service is one of the best in the industry to boot. Sigs can be hit and miss and mostly miss in my experiences.
I cant speak for that specific kimber but I personally do not like kimbers in general. Crappy past experiances.
I mentioned the SWs since ive been hearing alot of good things about the ones that have hit the streets. External extractors and a true series 70 pistol has promise. the slide serrations are a bit odd but are functional and thats what matters most. Their under a grand street price to some maybe something else to look it. like I said personally Id go springfield but do your homework and see what you want.
Have you seen the new E series from SW with the rail??
I own the Sig 1911R which is identical to the tacops only difference is Grips and single sided thumb safety and no magwell. I since added a magwell and grips so its virtually identical to the factory tac ops minus the Ambi safe.
Overall it is a quality firearm I had been hearing good things for awhile and decided to pick one up. It shoots better than I do and thus far has proven itself reliable. The factory mags are junk so toss them anyway. The factory trigger is decent for a factory production gun but its not anything that will take your breath away. Fit and finish is good overall and but from what I can tell the nitron finish is not the same nitron of old its holding up well but it lacks imo. But its definately a good gun for the money I ordered mine through buds police supply and all said and done probably saved 125$ over a factory tac ops model. I added a magwell from springfield since Sig would not sell me one factory direct and nobody stocks them.
Now for the dislikes. Sigs 1911s are sold on the notion of being well machined with tight tolerances.. like I said its well made but that claim is a bit overboard in my opinion its not on the same level as a custom gun or semi Custom for that matter. Les Baer, Wilson, Nighthawk, Even the TRPs so dont pick one up thinking it will be.
Im not a fan of the series 80 fps and plan on removing it at somepoint. I have no issues with the external extractor. Also the grip safety sucks given its design and actually prevents you from getting as high a grip as possible. Ive caught myself a few times on the range doing presentation drills and not being able to engage the grip safety and fire the weapn as the grip safety rides so low the weapon doesnt fully seat into my hand. (and yes its the weapon not the shooter in this case) So swapping it out and fitting another brand is a must IMO.
The 25lpi checkering on the front is done will and does its job however I have preferance towards 20LPI personally but 25 may be sufficient for you.
All in all its good quality firearms minus some of my personal gripes and If you pick one up in the mid 800 range or less its a good buy. Ive seen a few tac ops CPOs go in the low 700s so thats even better if you can snag one. but at around 1000 or more its not worth it. Your better off picking a TRP operator and getting a much higher quality firearm for only a few 100 more I think. Im a huge fan of TRPs but frankly I think their one the best factory production guns out there. Springfields reputation and customer service is one of the best in the industry to boot. Sigs can be hit and miss and mostly miss in my experiences.
I cant speak for that specific kimber but I personally do not like kimbers in general. Crappy past experiances.
I mentioned the SWs since ive been hearing alot of good things about the ones that have hit the streets. External extractors and a true series 70 pistol has promise. the slide serrations are a bit odd but are functional and thats what matters most. Their under a grand street price to some maybe something else to look it. like I said personally Id go springfield but do your homework and see what you want.
Re: Sig Tac Ops 1911 vs Kimber Tactical Custom HD
FWIW, not sure what is different but my Sig 1911 (1911 Stainless Rail) was nothing but problems. FTF was the name of the game. Almost 1000 rounds and still a FTF every few rounds.
Also keep in mind that the Sig 1911's are a slightly different shape and don't work with most typical 1911 holsters.
FWIW, not sure what is different but my Sig 1911 (1911 Stainless Rail) was nothing but problems. FTF was the name of the game. Almost 1000 rounds and still a FTF every few rounds.
Also keep in mind that the Sig 1911's are a slightly different shape and don't work with most typical 1911 holsters.
Re: Sig Tac Ops 1911 vs Kimber Tactical Custom HD
Sw,
Good point on the holsters that slipped my mind. Their are a fewer good ones tho. Tucker tt gunleather GI Holsters if I want kydex. Depends what u want.
As for your sig id say u have more than enough vgrounds to fire up a shipping label and make sig fix it that level of unreliability is totally unacceptable.
Sw,
Good point on the holsters that slipped my mind. Their are a fewer good ones tho. Tucker tt gunleather GI Holsters if I want kydex. Depends what u want.
As for your sig id say u have more than enough vgrounds to fire up a shipping label and make sig fix it that level of unreliability is totally unacceptable.
Re: Sig Tac Ops 1911 vs Kimber Tactical Custom HD
Yea, but it's not worth my time. Too many similar stories about the issues. I'll stick with my ugly but faithful Glocks. Maybe another day. I do love the look of the Blackwater Sig 1911... Who knows.
Yea, but it's not worth my time. Too many similar stories about the issues. I'll stick with my ugly but faithful Glocks. Maybe another day. I do love the look of the Blackwater Sig 1911... Who knows.
Re: Sig Tac Ops 1911 vs Kimber Tactical Custom HD
Im on the same search for this tax season. The Kimber you mentioned is one of my considerations as well, with the tactical entry being another kimber possibility. According to many people, including some post here on the site... kimbers common sense is non existent in quality control and service. I think I'm goanna have to take their word for it.
Everyone I talk to gushes about the springfields but my only experience with them is a gi milspec base model that I shot last year, so Ill be watching this one for some good info from our fellow shooters and pass along anything I find on my anger the wife quest for a 1911.
Im on the same search for this tax season. The Kimber you mentioned is one of my considerations as well, with the tactical entry being another kimber possibility. According to many people, including some post here on the site... kimbers common sense is non existent in quality control and service. I think I'm goanna have to take their word for it.
Everyone I talk to gushes about the springfields but my only experience with them is a gi milspec base model that I shot last year, so Ill be watching this one for some good info from our fellow shooters and pass along anything I find on my anger the wife quest for a 1911.
Re: Sig Tac Ops 1911 vs Kimber Tactical Custom HD
I think I'd opt for the basic Springfield Operator #PX9105MLP but find out if you can get it in black instead of the green frame. While it isn't checkered in the front strap, I feel that, for the money, the Springfield is a dang nice piece.
I think I'd opt for the basic Springfield Operator #PX9105MLP but find out if you can get it in black instead of the green frame. While it isn't checkered in the front strap, I feel that, for the money, the Springfield is a dang nice piece.
Re: Sig Tac Ops 1911 vs Kimber Tactical Custom HD
I have owned several 1911 variants over the years and the tacops sig I have is top notch. Sig stays away from MIM parts unlike springfield. The springfield trp is a good firearm but is loaded with MIM parts. For the money trps cost now you are getting to close to les baer IMHO.
I have owned several 1911 variants over the years and the tacops sig I have is top notch. Sig stays away from MIM parts unlike springfield. The springfield trp is a good firearm but is loaded with MIM parts. For the money trps cost now you are getting to close to les baer IMHO.
Re: Sig Tac Ops 1911 vs Kimber Tactical Custom HD
this is a QUESTION, not a comment. aren't all springfields made from thrown together parts from croatia? again, i'm asking out of ignorance, not commenting on the ncompany.
this is a QUESTION, not a comment. aren't all springfields made from thrown together parts from croatia? again, i'm asking out of ignorance, not commenting on the ncompany.
Re: Sig Tac Ops 1911 vs Kimber Tactical Custom HD
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sergeant69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">this is a QUESTION, not a comment. aren't all springfields made from thrown together parts from croatia? again, i'm asking out of ignorance, not commenting on the ncompany. </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sergeant69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">this is a QUESTION, not a comment. aren't all springfields made from thrown together parts from croatia? again, i'm asking out of ignorance, not commenting on the ncompany. </div></div>
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Re: Sig Tac Ops 1911 vs Kimber Tactical Custom HD
springfield trp is a great gun for the money. I see a fair amount of negative post her on kimber, but I have never had a problem with mine.
springfield trp is a great gun for the money. I see a fair amount of negative post her on kimber, but I have never had a problem with mine.
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