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I can sum up my thoughts on this in a few choice words.
Fuck Islam.
Fuck socialism.
Maggot Out.
Fuck Islam.
Fuck socialism.
Maggot Out.
Considering that deep down both Communists and Muslims hate the people that hate us & support them, at least if we loose the fight, we'll get to see the people who led the charge against freedom be first to the concentration camps at the hands of those they worshiped.
Apparently European women would rather be raped than take a stand against invaders... I guess why should be try to stop them getting their just reward.
Apparently European women would rather be raped than take a stand against invaders... I guess why should be try to stop them getting their just reward.
That’s the funny thing about democracy. The people get the government they deserve.
“Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.” - John Adams
When we don’t deserve liberty any longer we shall surely loose it. In a way those who wish to destroy our culture and civilization are right. They advocate for a totalitarian society, because such is the oppressive government suited to govern an immoral and heathen people.
“Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.” - John Adams
When we don’t deserve liberty any longer we shall surely loose it. In a way those who wish to destroy our culture and civilization are right. They advocate for a totalitarian society, because such is the oppressive government suited to govern an immoral and heathen people.
Nah, we wont see anything because we (most of us) will fight to the death rather than bow. I dont have many years left and it hurts every day...Im not bowing.
There used to be a guy called 'Gods Smuggler' who smuggled bibles to people in communist countries. Maybe we should smuggle pistols to the European women. Ill bet they will fight given the chance. If they wont, fuckem..or let the Muslims do it.
@Maggot and @w54 , there will be a few survivors from us in the camps when they get there.... and the first in get to seriously fuck over the late comers as seen in the gulags.... either way, they are going to lose a lot they don't expect to lose. Might even be fun for a few evil survivors who get in ahead of them...
Stepping back, as I occasionally do, taking broad view and a long one; I tend to ask myself pointed questions.
Frequent among them is the one asking how, if I were the Soviets, would I go about dismantling the strengths of the USA, taking a long and gradual plan to fruition.
Pretty much about the way we have been going since the 60's, by the folks we see in that history, to the end we see today, and most effectively for the benefit of the Socialists and Communists. It's no accident that the Russians are currently being presided over by a career KGB agent.
I think there's been tons of Russian interference in our society, and that it goes back to decades before Trump even considered running. Current emphasis only carries out validity of the Marxist and NAZI policies surrounding the Big Lie methodology.
The Liberals, the MSM, and the institutions of higher learning are complicit. The FBI, CIA, and NSA have been politicized to the point that only Liberal stooges would doubt it for even an instant.
And they're closing the deal.
Take a look around, this "change" is what they wanted and nearly got, and what we're experiencing now is only a tightrope walk away from our folks getting steamrollered.
Either the next step is ours, or we're done. We have to do everything right all the time. They only need to get a few more things done, and, as I said, we're done.
We need to change the slant in the playing field, permanently.
Greg
Frequent among them is the one asking how, if I were the Soviets, would I go about dismantling the strengths of the USA, taking a long and gradual plan to fruition.
Pretty much about the way we have been going since the 60's, by the folks we see in that history, to the end we see today, and most effectively for the benefit of the Socialists and Communists. It's no accident that the Russians are currently being presided over by a career KGB agent.
I think there's been tons of Russian interference in our society, and that it goes back to decades before Trump even considered running. Current emphasis only carries out validity of the Marxist and NAZI policies surrounding the Big Lie methodology.
The Liberals, the MSM, and the institutions of higher learning are complicit. The FBI, CIA, and NSA have been politicized to the point that only Liberal stooges would doubt it for even an instant.
And they're closing the deal.
Take a look around, this "change" is what they wanted and nearly got, and what we're experiencing now is only a tightrope walk away from our folks getting steamrollered.
Either the next step is ours, or we're done. We have to do everything right all the time. They only need to get a few more things done, and, as I said, we're done.
We need to change the slant in the playing field, permanently.
Greg
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A few more things....is the case. They don't have much left to do. You have to remember that many of these adolescents will be voting in 2020.
They are mobilized and well funded. The only thing they lack is common sense. They do believe that this is a winnable situation. Their only flaw in judgement...maybe...is that they do believe that people will turn things in and follow the rule of law like Australia.
I hope they are wrong in that respect but I am not so sure. I see both sides. Some are panic buying and some are of the type that don't own any AR type of weapon and honestly don't believe it is worth the effort to put up a fight.
Don't know which way it will go
They are mobilized and well funded. The only thing they lack is common sense. They do believe that this is a winnable situation. Their only flaw in judgement...maybe...is that they do believe that people will turn things in and follow the rule of law like Australia.
I hope they are wrong in that respect but I am not so sure. I see both sides. Some are panic buying and some are of the type that don't own any AR type of weapon and honestly don't believe it is worth the effort to put up a fight.
Don't know which way it will go
Have you any insight on what slant might work?
Russians err... Soviets did it!!!! HAHAHA put your heads out of your asses it was you, yourself who did it to yourself and absolutely no one else - there is also some help from the chosen people who were allowed to emigrate from Germany and settle in US and their successful subversion through media . First Tzarist Russia had a taste of it (it took 70+ years to recover) and now you have it and most likely this cancer will kill your society as you've misdiagnosed your illness completely...
Sure its easier to point fingers to others but that won't do you much help because unless you realize that problem is local and that problem is caused (better word would be not recognized and fought in its infancy) by "right" inactivity and babyboomers bringing up spoiled shit for brains children and that those shit for brains children now have their own "just shit no brains" children. You are probably too far gone to be able to steer the western ship back from collision course only question is will you take down the rest of the humanity because Russians will strike back make no fucking mistake about it and perhaps this third time will be the charm and humanity will finally manage to obliterate itself completely.
Sure its easier to point fingers to others but that won't do you much help because unless you realize that problem is local and that problem is caused (better word would be not recognized and fought in its infancy) by "right" inactivity and babyboomers bringing up spoiled shit for brains children and that those shit for brains children now have their own "just shit no brains" children. You are probably too far gone to be able to steer the western ship back from collision course only question is will you take down the rest of the humanity because Russians will strike back make no fucking mistake about it and perhaps this third time will be the charm and humanity will finally manage to obliterate itself completely.
Words of wisdom from our Slovenian brother. Our own mistakes, lack of foresight, and inactivity have brought us to this point.
Quoting Q&D from above..."Have you any insight on what slant might work?"
I pondered this all night and the best Ican come up with is "Money" to fund activity.
The left has people like George Clowney and Robert Kraft giving big money and loaning airplanes to get the commies to their rallies. What big names are into gun rights? I know Brad Pitt and Clint Eastwood are gun lovers. Any suggestions opn how to get them or others with $$$ to sponser a march on DC or state capitals? Other thoughts welcome.
Should that come to pass, I for one am prepared to pick up my crossbow, don my leather jacket, shave my hair into a mohawk, spray-paint football pads black and put them on, fire up my V8, and head into the nuclear wasteland to scrounge for gasoline and water!
We lived through an assault weapons ban. We got CCW in all the free states and some of the communist ones. That moved the ball WAY, WAY, WAY more than the assault weapons ban ever did. Banning a class of firearms doesn't mean the balloon goes up. Confiscation and forcibly disarming the people is another story entirely.
That said, to the OP:
They came for the bumpstocks. I care nothing for bumpstocks so I said nothing.
Then they came for the "assault rifles". I care nothing for "assault rifles" so I said nothing.
Then they came for the semi-automatic rifles. I am a bolt gun guy, so I said nothing.
Then they came for the pistols. I care nothing for pistols so I said nothing.
Then they came for my bolt gun, and there was no one left to say anything...
That's why I say I'm not interested in ceding 1mm to them. Nothing. If anything I want to expand our rights! REPEAL THE NFA!!!
That said, to the OP:
They came for the bumpstocks. I care nothing for bumpstocks so I said nothing.
Then they came for the "assault rifles". I care nothing for "assault rifles" so I said nothing.
Then they came for the semi-automatic rifles. I am a bolt gun guy, so I said nothing.
Then they came for the pistols. I care nothing for pistols so I said nothing.
Then they came for my bolt gun, and there was no one left to say anything...
That's why I say I'm not interested in ceding 1mm to them. Nothing. If anything I want to expand our rights! REPEAL THE NFA!!!
I'm afraid we are on the downhill side of the crest. We should have been awake an spoke up back in the 60's, an on. Now the best thing to do is except the fact that, what needs to be done is coming an you will either do it or be living on your knees the rest of your life ,as well your off spring an theirs. The left knew we were too busy raising family's, an providing for same(Americans do that) to see the trees for what they were. Take heart in the fact it will not be civil at all, an after the first one the rest are free. When they start it, their perception will run head long into our reality. The bulk of the events will never involve a gun, an everyday needs/wants will not be at ones finger tips there after. The quickness of out of control in fly over land will stop resupply to large city's overnight, so if I was living in libtard land, my plans would be finalized, or I would have already know the local Soylent corp's cost per pound. When the fires are out most will wake up an find there was no difference between a D or R, that is why it's called Just-Us. I find it telling some LEO's an LE groups have all ready let slip their plans. Some will be in brown shirts, while their pass/present brothers an sisters will be camo/street cloths just like us. The interesting part will be knowing were the last guy in the stack, or over watch Really stands. Until it's game time No One knows who is working/running their plan, from the Inside!
History is pretty definitive that soldiers and police will follow orders even when those orders are clearly immoral/crimes against humanity. This is not some foreign phenomena either.
Who would have believed the US Army would form a cavalry charge with tanks and attack WWI veterans (and their families!) petitioning their government for grievances with bayonets and fire?
Hoping that soldiers and police will disobey orders is like hoping a meteor strike takes out your enemies.
Who would have believed the US Army would form a cavalry charge with tanks and attack WWI veterans (and their families!) petitioning their government for grievances with bayonets and fire?
Hoping that soldiers and police will disobey orders is like hoping a meteor strike takes out your enemies.
The important part about Celebrities.
They are backed by the owners.
The owners own most everthing.
The banks would be included.
Campaign funding as well.
R
There is no hope in a good plan/s, the info comes first hand. Just wait until it's game on an the last guy in the stack or over watch, decides he's not going with the plan. Then again it could be just as simple as the station coms guy or someone else passing info, an the locals are having a snack until the real guests arrive. Today's crowd ain't your typical city libtard who is but a lock-stepper. The other thing, after the word gets out, hunting an hunted becomes real. It's been mostly a one way street to this point, that will change very quickly. The LAPD B/S will not be just rampant, it will be the order of the day everywhere, so mutual aid will be out the window.
If it comes to that point, do not waste your time and life fighting the minions carrying out orders. Take the fight to those who gave the orders.
Outside of Hollywood:
Pete Brownell
Larry Potterfield
plus thousands of company owners involved in guns and accessories.
Unfortunately, you have to compete with the fundraising of the NRA who sits on their fat a$$ thanks to LaPierre and Cox .
@Fig, those bonus march soldiers were much in part uneducated hungry people conditioned to obey "their betters" who needed to keep their bread line intact. I had family in both camps, the tents, and in the line moving toward the tents.
Not only that, I had family on both sides of the uncivil northern aggression. The lessons learned from that "in family hatred" that followed guaranteed my blood would never follow those lines again. I am not alone in that thinking.
Today's generations are much more well educated and knowledgeable and more attuned to 1770 and 1860 thinking than u "seem" to articulate. Maybe u haven't met those people yet.
Perhaps you forget once upon a time, there was "The Resister" on Ft. Bragg and how many years it took unc to rub that out. That spirit IS still alive. LE is well aware of it, as u should see based on the number of LE assigned to CT versus criminal investigation and the shitty job they are doing on both. Guerilla warfare is being fought every day in "our" government and the evidence surfaces regularly, ala, the revelations about McCabe and the f bunch of idiots.
A number of posts on this board show how unclearly many here see the reality.
So, u don't think a junta is possible here and units desert to the junta side ? Tgat remains to be seen, because the thinking is clearly in place.
Not only that, I had family on both sides of the uncivil northern aggression. The lessons learned from that "in family hatred" that followed guaranteed my blood would never follow those lines again. I am not alone in that thinking.
Today's generations are much more well educated and knowledgeable and more attuned to 1770 and 1860 thinking than u "seem" to articulate. Maybe u haven't met those people yet.
Perhaps you forget once upon a time, there was "The Resister" on Ft. Bragg and how many years it took unc to rub that out. That spirit IS still alive. LE is well aware of it, as u should see based on the number of LE assigned to CT versus criminal investigation and the shitty job they are doing on both. Guerilla warfare is being fought every day in "our" government and the evidence surfaces regularly, ala, the revelations about McCabe and the f bunch of idiots.
A number of posts on this board show how unclearly many here see the reality.
So, u don't think a junta is possible here and units desert to the junta side ? Tgat remains to be seen, because the thinking is clearly in place.
If posse comitatus is thrown out the window, family members and such are fair game at that point and shits gonna get dirty. Who supplies the food/power/etc to the bases these soldiers will be launching ops from?
I hate when people say the 2A dont mean shit cause .gov has drones and tanks... Taliban and their ilk would argue against that point Id reckon..
I hate when people say the 2A dont mean shit cause .gov has drones and tanks... Taliban and their ilk would argue against that point Id reckon..
This is a cycle that's infected every Empire throughout history and without some massive disruption we won't turn this ship around. More likely we'll bumble on our way... Remember it took 100 years for the British Empire to fade, the Romans took hundreds of years. Right now Asia will be ascendent because they never adopted multiculturalism, tolerated decadent homosexuals, or felt guilty for their success. Instead they've remained focused on nationalism and winning, even if they played dirty and crushed millions of innocents in the process.
But in a few hundred years they'll suffer the same fate... their elites will be spoilt brats giving away the wealth of the nation, welcoming foreigners, being sympathetic pansies and apologizing like Canadians.
Unless you're read to kill half of America off the demographics are baked in. We'll lose our rights to speech and defense sooner than later, and eventually we'll be like the Boer in South Africa, with tribal maniacs forcing us off our land after rape and torture. But this will all happen so gradually that nobody will ever organize a revolt since any single incident will never be enough to risk everything for a revolution. Yeah there will be some outrage tomorrow and another one in a few months but nothing large enough to galvanize people into actually fighting.
Even if we did "succeed" then what? We've got a 100 million Leftist zombies... do we put them in camps? Impose a police state (without guns or free speech)? How do we run the place, generals? Won't they grow just as corrupted as they always have throughout history? Truly great patriotic selfless leaders are rare... look at Trump, for all his warts, where is anyone else on the national stage with half his balls? And he's the best of the lot... cripes!
I think our best case scenario is to live in a rural red state with naturally defensible borders. And make a lot of money and diversify your investments, with some attention to prepping. And home school your kids and be in a like minded community with strong ties. I've yet to do all that and probably won't at my age but it's what I hope my kids will do.
Rome may have fallen but many of the smartest, best families carried on for two thousand years afterwards (in fact they are still wealthy). Same in China, some of the elite bloodlines go back even farther. Even though the British Empire is gone and replaced by weasels, there are still proud, competent British patriots (even if they have to live elsewhere, lol).... We want to be the American versions of that. But in terms of enlightening the school board in suburban Maryland? hahaha now that's impossible.
But in a few hundred years they'll suffer the same fate... their elites will be spoilt brats giving away the wealth of the nation, welcoming foreigners, being sympathetic pansies and apologizing like Canadians.
Unless you're read to kill half of America off the demographics are baked in. We'll lose our rights to speech and defense sooner than later, and eventually we'll be like the Boer in South Africa, with tribal maniacs forcing us off our land after rape and torture. But this will all happen so gradually that nobody will ever organize a revolt since any single incident will never be enough to risk everything for a revolution. Yeah there will be some outrage tomorrow and another one in a few months but nothing large enough to galvanize people into actually fighting.
Even if we did "succeed" then what? We've got a 100 million Leftist zombies... do we put them in camps? Impose a police state (without guns or free speech)? How do we run the place, generals? Won't they grow just as corrupted as they always have throughout history? Truly great patriotic selfless leaders are rare... look at Trump, for all his warts, where is anyone else on the national stage with half his balls? And he's the best of the lot... cripes!
I think our best case scenario is to live in a rural red state with naturally defensible borders. And make a lot of money and diversify your investments, with some attention to prepping. And home school your kids and be in a like minded community with strong ties. I've yet to do all that and probably won't at my age but it's what I hope my kids will do.
Rome may have fallen but many of the smartest, best families carried on for two thousand years afterwards (in fact they are still wealthy). Same in China, some of the elite bloodlines go back even farther. Even though the British Empire is gone and replaced by weasels, there are still proud, competent British patriots (even if they have to live elsewhere, lol).... We want to be the American versions of that. But in terms of enlightening the school board in suburban Maryland? hahaha now that's impossible.
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@Forgetful Coyote,
And the talib are still very active and not beaten, much like body lice in ........
And the talib are still very active and not beaten, much like body lice in ........
When perception meets reality
Plus they even look different than us? GPS trackers 50 bucks to your door, spectrum analyzers 125 bucks, broad band radios buy or build, false flags using the for mentioned = 1st grade level resistance. How to kill cell/sat phones in your area, 15 bucks on the web. Ability to blend with the enemy, priceless
No, and I'm not inclined to say anything in response to such a provocative question, because it could get this site in trouble. Which leads me to why you chose to pose this pointed question.
Stirring the mud again, Sir?
What I had in mind involved the ballot box, but somehow, I suspect that wasn't answer your were angling for.
Don't bother responding to me, you're ignored from here on in.
With my heart condition; these days, I need to limit my sources for stress.
You qualify.
Greg
Horse shit. You must subscribe to the thought police ?
Maybe you should take that up with LL, I'm really a little out of my depth here.
LOL.
Greg
LOL.
Greg
Well... I may be ignored, but I'll clarify my question anyway.
Some old fart whose opinion I respect writes that he took a long view of things and had some carefully considered observation to share, states that, then goes on to say that 'we need to do something'.
Am I really that far off in my thinking that I would ask for him to elaborate on that point? "Please, old man with a wealth of experience and knowledge, give some clues as to what 'something' you would like everyone to do..."
That response was a big disappointment, though. Rather than contribute anything meaningful, the response was more reminiscent of some of the kids marching to have the government 'do something' to stop gun violence. Recoiling in anger and disgust when someone has the audacity to ask them for their opinion on what 'something' they think would help.
I don't disagree with this, and I also don't think taking a hostile position toward people who are able and willing to help in whatever way they can is the right thing to do.
No shit. That's pretty much the only option. It's not an easy one, though. For one, the number of quality candidates running for various positions are few.
When new candidates run, they need a way to get the entire scope of their character widely known, so that people that would be voting could know the name, know the person, and do something other than randomly select from a list composed of mostly chaff and little wheat. (or no wheat at all, wtf is up with uncontested positions held by RINOs?)
The voting process is not easy to do in an informed way. Voting straight R gives you people like John Cornyn, that douche McCain, and various other RINOs. There are tons of candidates, and little good information about them as people. Some flyers saying, "Vote for me I'll protect Mexicans" doesn't mean they're good people that won't also sell out the Mexicans at the first opportunity.
The whole process sucks, IMO, but as Greg stated, we've got to solve it or it's over. I, unfortunately, do not have ALL the answers.
I was really hoping that Greg might have had at least one.
And just for the record, I know I'm not the only red blooded programmer in the world. I think a sort of conservative programmer foundation that 'collected' freedom loving programmer patriots and put them to work building shit would be a honkin' great idea. There are thousands of folks out there that work for google, facebook, twitter, etc, that are quite unhappy and would probably jump at the chance to make a decent living in a supportive environment.. As countless people have acknowledged, there are killer opportunities everywhere to replace things like youtube, twitter, etc with something that embraces free speech.
I mean, is that something y'all would support?
Some old fart whose opinion I respect writes that he took a long view of things and had some carefully considered observation to share, states that, then goes on to say that 'we need to do something'.
Am I really that far off in my thinking that I would ask for him to elaborate on that point? "Please, old man with a wealth of experience and knowledge, give some clues as to what 'something' you would like everyone to do..."
That response was a big disappointment, though. Rather than contribute anything meaningful, the response was more reminiscent of some of the kids marching to have the government 'do something' to stop gun violence. Recoiling in anger and disgust when someone has the audacity to ask them for their opinion on what 'something' they think would help.
I don't disagree with this, and I also don't think taking a hostile position toward people who are able and willing to help in whatever way they can is the right thing to do.
No shit. That's pretty much the only option. It's not an easy one, though. For one, the number of quality candidates running for various positions are few.
When new candidates run, they need a way to get the entire scope of their character widely known, so that people that would be voting could know the name, know the person, and do something other than randomly select from a list composed of mostly chaff and little wheat. (or no wheat at all, wtf is up with uncontested positions held by RINOs?)
The voting process is not easy to do in an informed way. Voting straight R gives you people like John Cornyn, that douche McCain, and various other RINOs. There are tons of candidates, and little good information about them as people. Some flyers saying, "Vote for me I'll protect Mexicans" doesn't mean they're good people that won't also sell out the Mexicans at the first opportunity.
The whole process sucks, IMO, but as Greg stated, we've got to solve it or it's over. I, unfortunately, do not have ALL the answers.
I was really hoping that Greg might have had at least one.
And just for the record, I know I'm not the only red blooded programmer in the world. I think a sort of conservative programmer foundation that 'collected' freedom loving programmer patriots and put them to work building shit would be a honkin' great idea. There are thousands of folks out there that work for google, facebook, twitter, etc, that are quite unhappy and would probably jump at the chance to make a decent living in a supportive environment.. As countless people have acknowledged, there are killer opportunities everywhere to replace things like youtube, twitter, etc with something that embraces free speech.
I mean, is that something y'all would support?
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If you are going to vote, look very carefully at the primaries, that is where you can have a much bigger say in the direction of your chosen party than at the general election. You'll also find sometimes when the primaries are competitive, the politicians are a bit more inclined to at least pretend to listen to you.
It's still kind of hopeless, but at least you have a bit more of a sliver of hope.
It's still kind of hopeless, but at least you have a bit more of a sliver of hope.
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money,
that will herald the end of the republic.”
- Benjamin Franklin
And until you find a solution to this we're just chasing one utopian dream after another.that will herald the end of the republic.”
- Benjamin Franklin
Think smaller. Rather than fighting the nation think more about protecting your family, and maybe your network and community. Then when you're successful more like minded good people will naturally be drawn to it and you can exclude the assholes and layabouts.
Why should I risk everything and march on Washington to save the Dindus?
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In a free republic defense of liberty is a rearguard action. It is a constant retreat with an occasional counter attack till the people are no longer worthy of liberty.
Unfortunately some of our biggest constitutional protections/pillars were kicked out from under the Republic by progressives a hundred years ago, and that’s really what’s happening now. The full measure of “The Progressive Amendments” is just now being felt. It has taken this long for the culture of our government to devolve to a point where it’s full of people advocating for totalitarianism. Restoring the Republic would take a long time, but it couldn’t even begin till key Constitutional protections were restored (16th and 17th amendments abolished, and the original restored). These two things would turn the ship around. Tying Federal revenues to trade and comerce would eliminate their hostility to all but giant corporations and stop their theft and transfer of our wealth, and restoring a vote to the States Legdgislatures would change them back into governing bodies rather than rump muni governments. These two things were critical protections we lost, and this leviathan was caused by loosing them. That was the end of federalism. We just didn’t know it till now.
Unfortunately some of our biggest constitutional protections/pillars were kicked out from under the Republic by progressives a hundred years ago, and that’s really what’s happening now. The full measure of “The Progressive Amendments” is just now being felt. It has taken this long for the culture of our government to devolve to a point where it’s full of people advocating for totalitarianism. Restoring the Republic would take a long time, but it couldn’t even begin till key Constitutional protections were restored (16th and 17th amendments abolished, and the original restored). These two things would turn the ship around. Tying Federal revenues to trade and comerce would eliminate their hostility to all but giant corporations and stop their theft and transfer of our wealth, and restoring a vote to the States Legdgislatures would change them back into governing bodies rather than rump muni governments. These two things were critical protections we lost, and this leviathan was caused by loosing them. That was the end of federalism. We just didn’t know it till now.
The 16th amendment is the one that pretty much underpins all that is wrong right now.
Give the beast an endless ticket to eat as much as they want with no restraints allowed and it will grow till it consumes all.
Give the beast an endless ticket to eat as much as they want with no restraints allowed and it will grow till it consumes all.
Thanks for raising said points yall.. hadnt personally ever researched much about 16/17 amendments..
