Sir, Id like to apply for that job.

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    I used to do a lot of hiring (corporate/office gig) for entry level positions in a very large professional firm, so I'd see a LOT of recent college grads and early 20's kids with a few years of work experience.

    I wanted diverse teams, so I wasn't overly concerned with tattoos, but the combination of visible bad tattoos and dress that was too casual were usually indicators that the candidate wasn't ready for corporate life.

    With that said, there were a fair number of people we did hire who had tattoos showing from shirt cuffs or neck collars, or with piercings and non-traditional hair styles. They typically were dynamite in interviews and made it abundantly clear that the job was more important that their fashion sense...
     
    Tattoos are ok for troops defending a nation, way of life, and freedom, but not acceptable to be a corporate clown? Where is the mentality of hiring people that are qualified and have a good work ethic versus someone who looks pretty but can’t show up on time and has shit people skills. Obviously if you are going to work on a professional setting then you must be able to dress appropriately, but to judge someone for simply having tattoos is dumb in my opinion.
     
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    Tattoos are ok for troops defending a nation, way of life, and freedom, but not acceptable to be a corporate clown? Where is the mentality of hiring people that are qualified and have a good work ethic versus someone who looks pretty but can’t show up on time and has shit people skills. Obviously if you are going to work on a professional setting then you must be able to dress appropriately, but to judge someone for simply having tattoos is dumb in my opinion.

    Did you even read my post?
     
    @1500varmint should have specified, that wasn’t an attack on you. I read your post and agree with it wholeheartedly. Simply referring to the mentality in general and the fact that dumb ass “informative” articles like this continue to bring attention to things that are not relevant to job performance or even a persons character.
     
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    Tattoos are ok for troops defending a nation, way of life, and freedom, but not acceptable to be a corporate clown? Where is the mentality of hiring people that are qualified and have a good work ethic versus someone who looks pretty but can’t show up on time and has shit people skills. Obviously if you are going to work on a professional setting then you must be able to dress appropriately, but to judge someone for simply having tattoos is dumb in my opinion.
    if you have visible tattoos (face, neck, hands)......you want that attention.....dont bitch and moan when you get it.

    sorry, your appearance matters, face tattoos and copious piercings are not professional.....and you are not that exceptional where you are so skilled people will overlook your appearance...

    if i have to do business with 2 companies......1 sends reps who are clean cut and well dressed....the other sends people with face and hand tats.....all things being equal im going with the company without face tats.....sorry, but no one cares about your feelings.

    ....getting a tattoo is a choice.....and ide have the same feelings towards someone showing up to work in ripped jeans and a dirty tshirt....

    also, no one gets a visible tat and doesnt already know it may impact their employment opportunities.....you know that going in, and youve accepted that.........no one gets a face tat and goes, "surely this wont impact my job prospects".......so the fact that they are acting shocked proves they are disingenuous, or a fucking moron, both are solid reasons to not hire someone.

    and before you bitch, i have tats.....i just dont feel the need to have them in a place i cant cover up.
     
    I dont care about your tats, your pink hair, your nose ring, or that your gay.....but just know they all come with a level of judgement. How I feel that day detemines the level of judgement. I will say that most of that is common....the real rebels dont have any of it.

    If getting a tat makes you enjoy life, then go for it! Same with all the other shit. I care about it the same amount you care about me not having it.

    I highly recommend getting a tat of your gf, bf, wife, or husband's name. The forehead would be my first suggested location.
     
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    Getting a sleeve might have been the best business decision I've ever made. I work in a suit and tie industry that deals with financial reporting, auditing and bonding reviews for very large commercial construction companies involved in long term contracts. It's as white collar as it could be.

    When I was clean skinned and buttoned up business owners would be noticeably guarded. When I see that now I roll up my sleeves and either crack a mildly inappropriate joke or sprinkle a little colorful language into the conversation. Their guard goes down I close the deal almost every time.

    Times have changed. When I meet someone in a suit I either assume he's a salesman that has no idea what he's talking about, or he's brand new and also has no idea what he's talking about. The overwhelming majority of the time I'm right. I don't have much confidence in the competency of anyone that wears a suit anymore.
     
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    Getting a sleeve might have been the best business decision I've ever made. I work in a suit and tie industry that deals with financial reporting, auditing and bonding reviews for very large commercial construction companies involved in long term contracts. It's as white collar as it could be.

    When I was clean skinned and buttoned up business owners would be noticeably guarded. When I see that now I roll up my sleeves and either crack a mildly inappropriate joke or sprinkle a little colorful language into the conversation. Their guard goes down I close the deal almost every time.

    Times have changed. When I meet someone in a suit I either assume he's a salesman that has no idea what he's talking about, or he's brand new and also has no idea what he's talking about. The overwhelming majority of the time I'm right. I don't have much confidence in the competency of anyone that wears a suit anymore.


    i have a strong suspicion your ability to make deals has more to do with your personality and skill than your tattoos
     
    if you have visible tattoos (face, neck, hands)......you want that attention.....dont bitch and moan when you get it.

    sorry, your appearance matters, face tattoos and copious piercings are not professional.....and you are not that exceptional where you are so skilled people will overlook your appearance...

    if i have to do business with 2 companies......1 sends reps who are clean cut and well dressed....the other sends people with face and hand tats.....all things being equal im going with the company without face tats.....sorry, but no one cares about your feelings.

    ....getting a tattoo is a choice.....and ide have the same feelings towards someone showing up to work in ripped jeans and a dirty tshirt....

    also, no one gets a visible tat and doesnt already know it may impact their employment opportunities.....you know that going in, and youve accepted that.........no one gets a face tat and goes, "surely this wont impact my job prospects".......so the fact that they are acting shocked proves they are disingenuous, or a fucking moron, both are solid reasons to not hire someone.

    and before you bitch, i have tats.....i just dont feel the need to have them in a place i cant cover up.
    No feelings involved for me. When I go to, I work, I wear slacks and collared shirts. I was simply making a statement on how I think it is silly to judge someone on how you feel about doing business with someone based off looks instead of performance. Guess it’d be ok for that clean cut all American to embezzle your money, or give you substandard products/services since he looks more professional. I personally don’t care who you hire or don’t in the long run. Especially if it is your business.
     
    No feelings involved for me. When I go to, I work, I wear slacks and collared shirts. I was simply making a statement on how I think it is silly to judge someone on how you feel about doing business with someone based off looks instead of performance. Guess it’d be ok for that clean cut all American to embezzle your money, or give you substandard products/services since he looks more professional. I personally don’t care who you hire or don’t in the long run. Especially if it is your business.
    where did i say that?
     
    "if i have to do business with 2 companies......1 sends reps who are clean cut and well dressed....the other sends people with face and hand tats.....all things being equal im going with the company without face tats.....sorry, but no one cares about your feelings."

    THIS
     
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    I have 1 suit and 10 sets of coveralls.
    I wear coveralls every day and have for the last 45 years.
    I have worn my suit 3 times in the last 15 years to fancy funerals or weddings, otherwise it is my "dress" coveralls for that type of event.

    I attended an archaeological confrence in ABQ. a couole of years ago where we were bused from the hotel to the convention center.
    One evening on the ride back to the hotel a young female student with a ring in her nose and several piercings in her face sitting across from me asked me if I received many comments on my attire?

    My first thought was,"What the fuck if wrong with this Twat?"

    I answered her with,"None so far. Have you received any questions as to why anyone would put a ring in their nose and have various pieces of metal sticking out of your face?" End of discussion.

    I had been invited by a friend, who teaches at a University, to sit in on a panel to listen to some student paper presentations in one session the next day and give my input as to good or bad. Ya, why not, it was something I know about and I was just asked to sit in, nothing official.

    Start of the session- The panel is introduced, seated and away we go.
    The 2nd. paper given was by none other than the Bitch with the ring in her nose. As she looked at the judging panel the look on her face was PRICELESS to say the least.

    I treated her fairly, as I did the others.

    I wonder if she learned anything?
     
    i have a strong suspicion your ability to make deals has more to do with your personality and skill than your tattoos

    Jesus no. Check some of my posts here. I'm a miserable asshole. I'm a CPA in public accounting.

    Knowing your stuff is of paramount importance, make no mistake. You can only bullshit so much. A big part of dealing with people in a business environment is learning to read body language. What's the eye contact situation looking like? Are their arms crossed? Legs pointed towards you or off to the side? Are they fidgeting?

    In my experience, once I roll up the sleeves people loosen up. This applies to posture/body language as well as the direction of the conversation. This doesn't necessarily apply to older folks (50+, no offense to anyone here) but the younger crowd responds far better than I ever expected before getting inked. I'd say my highest net worth clients are early 30's. Your mileage may vary.
     
    I don't give a fuck if you get a tattoo, it is none of my business.
    One of my boys wanted to get one and I told him I didn't like it but go ahead it's your skin. However.
    before I gave my blessing I took him over to see a couple of my OLD Vet friends at the VFW and have them show him their tattoos from years ago.
    They all look like ink blotts after the years and aging.
    I have one on my left upper arm in rememberance of a friend who died in VN.
    It looked good when I got it and was good for quite a few years.
    If you were to look at it now you would wonder, what the fuck is that?
    You can't beat Mother Nature with aging and lots of sunshine
    I am sure that a lot of the tats of today will become that way with time and don't give me this shit that the ink is better now. It is your body that does it. I have a friend that has one only 7 years old and it looks like shit now. What do you do? Keep going and paying the man to make them pretty again?
     
    Here's the deal.

    Personally IDGAF what you do regarding most things including tats. What I care about is, what do my customers care about. Our business is in a retirement community where half of the folks have some sort of tat and half don't. Those that don't look at those who do with suspicion. We have some really awesome employees with tats, but they can cover them up.

    Again, I don't care, I care about what the customer thinks. If you want to do that, more power to you. However, you OWN the consequences, you not me. I rely on my customers for REVENUE, at best you represent EXPENSE. For any of you who sign the front of the check, I'm sure you understand.

    Why on God's green earth would I want to send 50% of my customers to a competitor?

    The thing about a tattoo, is it's permanent. Once you make that choice, you can't go back. I understand it's cool and it's a statement and it defines you at that point in time. All is good until you decide that it's not you now. You only get one chance for a first impression, and you don't necessarily get a chance to argue your point.

    It's your choice... but YOU own it.
     
    I got some looks going in to work with pre-school kids with tattoos and a big beard. It didn't take very long for people to see past it. Dressing professionally commands respect. People treat me like I am more important than I am. :ROFLMAO: :LOL: :ROFLMAO:

    If that guy wore a three piece suit the interviewer wouldn't even notice. :ROFLMAO: 🤪 :ROFLMAO:
     
    We had a kid with BIG hoops in his ears. He was told not to wear them at work. His bitch was that it is his body. My bosses bitch was that it is a safety issue. If you want a certain look, that is ok. But not at the risk of injury.
     
    If you have tats and they are all that cool, why worry about if they can be covered up by a shirt or whatever?

    The tat on my sholder in rememberance of my friend who was killed was kind of a spur of the moment thing. That is why it is on my shoulder and not on my face.
    It is no longer legible, just ink in my skin from many years ago that can no longer be read as to the original message.

    He was a great person and we went through bad shit together until he was killed.
    I was young and dumb and put that tat on there that no one cand read now, but his life and memory will stay with me until I die. I don't need a tat to remind me.

    Anyone getting a tat these days needs to go look at OLD people and see the ink blots we have now before doing that as they are permanent.,
    But after the years, is that really something you want for the rest of your life? Something that only you knows what they mean?

    My Son in Law has a sleeve on his right arm. He is aging now and it looks like shit. Looking at it I have no idea what he was trying to pass forward but do know he suffers in the hot Texas sun as he does his job. Ink absorbs sunlight.