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So, exactly how temperature sensitive is Re-15?

jaycoux

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I used this stuff in my 20" OBR because it shot lights out! I loaded it in the spring when it was warm. I used LC surplus brass, CCI BR2 primers and SMK 175 grain bullets. At the time it was clocking in at 2540 which I was satisfied with. I took it out to the range to get a second reading on them last weekend (it was about 35 degrees) and got 2450. Is this stuff that sensitive?

Thanks for any help.

jay
 
Re: So, exactly how temperature sensitive is Re-15?

have you tried varget? I currently have 4064,4895,re-15 and varget in my dead soldier pile. I was thinking of giving varget another look.

jay
 
Re: So, exactly how temperature sensitive is Re-15?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jjaycoux</div><div class="ubbcode-body">have you tried varget? I currently have 4064,4895,re-15 and varget in my dead soldier pile. I was thinking of giving varget another look.

jay</div></div>

No measurable change in velocity for me with varget from 80+ degrees to 20 degrees.
 
Re: So, exactly how temperature sensitive is Re-15?

I can't tell if Varget is temp sensative or not; looking through my notes, I see a 187 fps velocity spread from the same 45 grain charge of it under a 175 grain bullet in a Winchester case throughout last year. Varget used to have a reputation for inconsistency from lot to lot; I buy it by the pound and have never bothered to check to see if the lot numbers matched.

Like jjay, I have abandoned RL-15 and Varget. There's no point in using a powder that gives inconsistent results.
 
Re: So, exactly how temperature sensitive is Re-15?

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Kombayotch took an oven to the range to produce this data.

On an internet populated by posters who would not know a controlled test if it bit them, he is an oasis.
 
Re: So, exactly how temperature sensitive is Re-15?

Varget had a bad lot out a few years ago but is not very different lot to lot although I buy it in 8 pound jugs. It is very temp insenstitive as I have maybe a 10fps spread between temps in the teens and over 100. Gives excellent velocities also. If you shoot in different temps give it a try.
 
Re: So, exactly how temperature sensitive is Re-15?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Kombayotch took an oven to the range to produce this data.

On an internet populated by posters who would not know a controlled test if it bit them, he is an oasis.</div></div>

Kombayotch is my hero, I wish I had his patience and analytical mind.
 
Re: So, exactly how temperature sensitive is Re-15?

With my 6.5x47 loaded with 39gr RL15 and 123gr Amax I had a MV of 2785 a few weeks ago when it was 5-10 degrees. Today the same load with a temperature 38 degrees my MV was 2900. It seems like I had a bigger drop when its really cold verses just kinda cold. I dont know what this load will run in the heat, I just started loading the 6.5 this winter. Looking back through my book I got similar results with my .308

*kinda cold is a technical term, look it up
 
Re: So, exactly how temperature sensitive is Re-15?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> ...
On an internet populated by posters who would not know a controlled test if it bit them, ... </div></div>

That is an understatement.
 
Re: So, exactly how temperature sensitive is Re-15?

Thanks guys!

But, it wasn't actually an oven, just a small cooler insulated further with foam, with a heating pad inside of it.

Here is my test method (copied from another thread):

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The way the tests works is that you soak 3 batches of ammo at hot, cold and ambient temperature for at least two hours (5 rounds of each). I use a cooler with a heating pad for hot, the freezer in the clubhouse for cold (an icebox works too), and just sit the rounds out in the open for ambient. Temperature is measured with thermocouples and/or mercury thermometers.

You then fire them one round at a time in a round robin sequence (ambient, hot, cold, ambient, hot, cold...). You let the barrel cool in between each shot. When you fire each round, you just transfer that round from the hot/room/cold storage to the chamber and fire it through the chrono as quickly as possible. You don't want to give the rounds any time to change temperature internally due to contact with the chamber. I set the scope on the lowest magnification and just make sure I'm sending the round through the sweet spot of the chrono (no groups here). You basically want to the Jerry Miculek of loading a boltgun and firing it through the chrono. This is best done on a short pistol range, close to the berm.

It isn't a difficult test to run. However, if you don't have the ability to measure pressure (I do), I would advise putting the heating pad on a lower setting. </div></div>

This is a REALLY easy test to run, and I wish more people would take the time to do it. It's only costing you 15 rounds or ammo and about half an hour of your time. It saves you having to wait for seasons to test the temperature stability of a load.
 
Re: So, exactly how temperature sensitive is Re-15?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Captain Moroni</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes it is. I lost about 100fps in my .308 dropping from 80-85 degrees to 10-20 degrees. I have found that it stays consisant once you compensate for it so I use it year round and just adjust as needed. </div></div>

How do you compensate for it when rounds cook in the chamber on a cold day?