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Some 1936 Mauser goodness

Ledzep

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  • Jun 9, 2009
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    After getting my tax return this year I decided it was finally time to break down and get one of these. Spent a few months researching and was torn between the 06/24 Swiss Lugers and the pre-WWII German pistols. I found this one on Gunbroker and threw in a bid I thought would get over-bid but ended up winning! $1552 got 'er.

    All matching except the magazine, which is pretty typical. I can see how guys end up with tens of these things. Damn cool. Zero perceptible rail wiggle and excellent fit/finish. I'm still out for a nice Swiss piece some day. Should be able to get out this weekend to put a few rounds through it on paper.

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    Man Lugers are just beautiful.
    I always wanted one but never pulled the trigger.
    Lugers are like fine art you have to know what to look for or you are getting hosed.

    Real nice gun, You going to shoot it?
     
    I've gotta agree with whatsupdoc, Lugers are fine built machines no matter who did them. Always a historic mark of what German quality is.

    My dad's cousin (I call him uncle) used to get these when ever he could. He would sell them for, at the time, a modest profit of fifty bucks or so back in the '50's when he was going through college. He thought they would never dry up. One day they did! We should have taken that lesson to heart when we could have had many a Mauser rifle, or other historic rifle, before they dried up too.

    Nice pistol Ledzep!
     
    I am going to shoot it. I don't plan on shooting much more than a few magazines worth, but I haven't ever shot one before and I'm curious. The bore is not in the best shape, heavy frost throughout, unfortunately. I'm very interested to see how it groups, though. It feels great in the hand!

    True story on getting hosed. After doing a few weeks of reading, then browsing through some GB auctions I almost gave up on GB altogether. Lots of stuff that's marked up a lot more than it should be, and obviously anything that has to do with Nazi Germany has tons of faked crap out there.
     
    I am going to shoot it. I don't plan on shooting much more than a few magazines worth, but I haven't ever shot one before and I'm curious. The bore is not in the best shape, heavy frost throughout, unfortunately. I'm very interested to see how it groups, though. It feels great in the hand!

    True story on getting hosed. After doing a few weeks of reading, then browsing through some GB auctions I almost gave up on GB altogether. Lots of stuff that's marked up a lot more than it should be, and obviously anything that has to do with Nazi Germany has tons of faked crap out there.
    It gets a little discouraging at times. I had a couple chances to buy a FN PBR a few times for a good price. Then for almost a year I saw $1k prices and twice that for the re-named SPR. Then, I saw and bid on a PBR and got it for $500! Just gotta look at that gun porn every day!;):p:p
     
    This is mine......

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    It was a bring back for my stepfathers father. Because of the brown holster we are assuming it was from WWI. His father actually fought in the Punitive Expedition to Mexico (Reserves), WWI (Reserve discharged as a Captain) and than volunteered for WWII (Lt Col 9th Tactical Air Force. He worked as sort of forward reconnaissance moving ahead of the main body seeking new airfields and facilities to operate from. He was what would be considered an old man by WWII time but he apparently knew how to soldier. When he wasnt a soldier he was lawyering).

    The holster.

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    No spare magazine but the take down tool is there.

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    Makers mark is 1915

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    The matching numbered magazine has a wood plug. If it was a WWII capture Id expect by than mags would have been lost and it would have a replacement.

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    I posted pictures of this pistol at the Luger Forums and I was told by the experts its a 1910 DWM Commercial Model.

    The soldier or his family either bought it to supplement his issued arms or this person just wanted their own sidearm.

    The only real blemish on the pistol is on the right side above the trigger bow.....

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    I thought this was wear from the holster or something. What it actually represents is that Commercial pistols did not have a last round bolt lock back. In order to be acceptable for service the lock back had to be installed. It was a war. Apparently the armorer wasnt concerned about a bit of finish removal to install the mechanism for the lock back.

    The M40 helmet on the right in the picture was my motorcycle helmet for a awhile. I bought it for $50 from Collectors Armory when I was in high school - circa 1984?

    Early 2000 I was at work riding my bike to a supplier to order some material. I went into the vendor and realizing I forgot something in my bike I exited the building to get what I needed leaving my Model M40 helmet on their counter.

    When I came back my helmet had been replaced by the Model 1916/17.

    They got a kick out of it when they saw my eyes thinking I was bemused with the switch.

    I laughed. I asked where they got it. they said they had some weird guy working as counter help and he brought it in for a joke. The guy had quit years before and it had been just hanging around. I asked if I could buy it and they said "Here its yours"

    Its original paint, pristine but where someone drew a swastika on front than in the earliest reported cases of SJW colored over it so as not to offend anyone....

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    Even named. whats puzzling is the date appears to be 1939.

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    I know these helmets were used in WWII but Im guessing it would have had its WWI paint covered over before doing so.

    Last Show and Tell item....

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    Running lead for the 9th Tac the colonel was usually the first American in a few places. The family story of this "urn" is that it was presented to the Colonel by the Maquis leader just outside Lyon, France. It was a gift of appreciation. The Maquis officer told the Colonel that he had used the heavy brass urn to beat the brains in of the local SS leader just before the arrival of the Americans.

    The people connected are dead and the stories are not notarized and written down.....just stories.
     
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    I don't think my Luger (a 1918ish Deutsch Fabrik) is nearly as nice as any of those.

    But it does shoot!

    Lugers are an amazing collecting niche. One that I never pursued, because the minutiae is just insane!

    But everyone should have a cool Luger! And shoot it!

    Beautiful guys! Just beautiful!

    Here's mine. Next to the bolt of my Mauser T-Gehwer rifle.
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    Lugers are amazing... congrats on yours!!! Pictures from the range, please!!!!

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    Today was about 63 and sunny so I made time to get to the range with the Oberndorf 9's this afternoon. Luger on the left side, VP9 on the right in both pictures. Top target was 8 rounds each of WWB, bottom target 15 rounds each of Herters brass cased fmj. I also shot a box of Tulammo steel cased today. The luger eats the Tula and Herters ammo fine... does not like WWB at all. As near as I can tell it's short stroking (stove pipes and failures to feed).

    Accuracy is probably limited by my skill level at this point-- been about a year since I seriously shot pistols for accuracy. For the most part the accuracy potential between the two is pretty close, though. The trigger on the VP9 is considerably lighter, though, so I flung a few more wild ones wit the P08.

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    10yd, luger left, vp9 right (WWB)
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    And Herters, also at 10yd
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    It was a good day. Glad to see the snow and single digit temps go away for a while.
     
    I havent shot mine despite 20 years of stewardship.

    I understand Lugers like "hot" ammo.

    The issue with shooting these old guns is that the supermen they were designed for had eyes like eagles.

    That triangle pointed front sight and the scratch of a rear leave me with respect for the manly men of the past.
     
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    I actually did not have a hard time with the sights on the Luger. The same sights on a rifle, though-- both the K98 and Gewehr 98 are miserable for me. Tons of vertical stringing. I think the Luger has the front and rear close enough to one another that they are both in focus at the same time. Even so, the VP9 sights (square post/notch) are superior IMO.
     
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