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You gotta love these guys.
You gotta love these guys.
Speaking of warriors... PJ's
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"PJ's" Unsung hard charging heroes. They are some of the most humble and genuinely good people out there. They are true guardian angels that bring fight and fire power when they show up. read "That Others May Live" by Senior Master Sgt. Jack Brehm very good book with a lot of insight into what being a PJ is all about.
"PJ's" Unsung hard charging heroes. They are some of the most humble and genuinely good people out there. They are true guardian angels that bring fight and fire power when they show up. read "That Others May Live" by Senior Master Sgt. Jack Brehm very good book with a lot of insight into what being a PJ is all about.
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We had one of our DOE SRT operators go through the "Pipeline" and he made it. He could order whatever gear he wanted, and his wall locker had enough gear to climb Mt. Everest.
Loves it, and went full time with them.
Great dude!
We had one of our DOE SRT operators go through the "Pipeline" and he made it. He could order whatever gear he wanted, and his wall locker had enough gear to climb Mt. Everest.
Loves it, and went full time with them.
Great dude!
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A guy at our local Happy Hour asked me whose training I thought was the hardest - Marines, Special Forces, Navy SEALs. He was somewhat surprised when I told him probably the hardest course to pass was to be a P.J.
SEALs have gotten out, gone into the Air Force to go to P.J. school, and flunked out.
To be a P.J., you not only have to be hard, but smart enough to absorb complex medical training, and able to think and perform under immense pressure.
Air Force Combat Controllers are close. They are actual qualified FAA Air Traffic Controllers and Terminal Guidance Controllers who also have to do all the hard physical stuff. There are no dumbasses who qualify as Air Traffic Controllers.
It's a long-established truism that you never know what a true warrior will look like. It's also true that you never know where you will find them.
A guy at our local Happy Hour asked me whose training I thought was the hardest - Marines, Special Forces, Navy SEALs. He was somewhat surprised when I told him probably the hardest course to pass was to be a P.J.
SEALs have gotten out, gone into the Air Force to go to P.J. school, and flunked out.
To be a P.J., you not only have to be hard, but smart enough to absorb complex medical training, and able to think and perform under immense pressure.
Air Force Combat Controllers are close. They are actual qualified FAA Air Traffic Controllers and Terminal Guidance Controllers who also have to do all the hard physical stuff. There are no dumbasses who qualify as Air Traffic Controllers.
It's a long-established truism that you never know what a true warrior will look like. It's also true that you never know where you will find them.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's a long-established truism that you never know what a true warrior will look like. It's also true that you never know where you will find them.</div></div>Well said.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's a long-established truism that you never know what a true warrior will look like. It's also true that you never know where you will find them.</div></div>Well said.
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We have them rotate down here with us pretty regularly for experience with trauma (says bad things about NOLA). They are a very skilled group of people. One of my service rifle coaches teaches marksmanship to AF spec ops folk down at Hurlburt Field. Talk about some hard-holders. I have loved every minute with them....and the guys from Alaska are some of the finest rescue folks around.
We have them rotate down here with us pretty regularly for experience with trauma (says bad things about NOLA). They are a very skilled group of people. One of my service rifle coaches teaches marksmanship to AF spec ops folk down at Hurlburt Field. Talk about some hard-holders. I have loved every minute with them....and the guys from Alaska are some of the finest rescue folks around.
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Oh, yeah. Those guys in Alaska have to deal not only with rescues in the freezing sea, but up on mountains like Denali as well. That's a <span style="font-weight: bold">hard</span> environment to work in.
The P.J.'s motto is "That others may live" - and they walk the walk.
The Coast Guard Rescue Swimmers up there are no slouches, either.
The Coasties unofficial motto is "You have to go out. You don't have to come back."
Bless them all.
Oh, yeah. Those guys in Alaska have to deal not only with rescues in the freezing sea, but up on mountains like Denali as well. That's a <span style="font-weight: bold">hard</span> environment to work in.
The P.J.'s motto is "That others may live" - and they walk the walk.
The Coast Guard Rescue Swimmers up there are no slouches, either.
The Coasties unofficial motto is "You have to go out. You don't have to come back."
Bless them all.
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When I was in as a 91W (now 68W i think) with the Army, we trained with a few PJs in jump school, and at Ft Sam Houston. All "chair force"
jokes aside, those PJs were high speed man. I got nothing but admiration and praise for them, Combat controllers and combat weathermen as well.
When I was in as a 91W (now 68W i think) with the Army, we trained with a few PJs in jump school, and at Ft Sam Houston. All "chair force"
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's a long-established truism that you never know what a true warrior will look like. It's also true that you never know where you will find them.
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Excellent Example - Audie Murphy
USAF Special Operations has a number of what many would call hard chargers. Jumping along with the Combat Controller Teams you will likely find a Combat Weather Team ... there are the Tactical Air Control Parties, 3-man specialized teams farmed out to Army and even foreign units to provide coordinated close air support.
Remember, there are a number of cooks in all branches that have received medals for heroism in nearly all our Wars. It ain't the job... it's the man.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's a long-established truism that you never know what a true warrior will look like. It's also true that you never know where you will find them.
</div></div>
Excellent Example - Audie Murphy
USAF Special Operations has a number of what many would call hard chargers. Jumping along with the Combat Controller Teams you will likely find a Combat Weather Team ... there are the Tactical Air Control Parties, 3-man specialized teams farmed out to Army and even foreign units to provide coordinated close air support.
Remember, there are a number of cooks in all branches that have received medals for heroism in nearly all our Wars. It ain't the job... it's the man.
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Went through jump school with some AF guys. Don't remember if they were PJ's but alL three were great guys. Humble and willing to give of their knowledge. Wish I could say the same about the rest of the Army.
Went through jump school with some AF guys. Don't remember if they were PJ's but alL three were great guys. Humble and willing to give of their knowledge. Wish I could say the same about the rest of the Army.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Parallax</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It ain't the job... it's the man. </div></div>
I did not want to come right out and say it. Think of the spike in flight suits and helmets that could have come about if you had not spilled the beans...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Parallax</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It ain't the job... it's the man. </div></div>
I did not want to come right out and say it. Think of the spike in flight suits and helmets that could have come about if you had not spilled the beans...
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I was amused by my copy of this month's <span style="font-style: italic">Signal</span>, which featured a picture of an Air Force general officer at an official briefing wearing a flight suit, as well as several ads showing workers in command posts wearing flight suits.
I'm not really amused by all the Pentagon workers wearing utilities. It's not like service uniforms are all that hard to take care of.
Oh, well - I guess I'm just an old curmudgeon.
Correction - I'm not guessing...
I was amused by my copy of this month's <span style="font-style: italic">Signal</span>, which featured a picture of an Air Force general officer at an official briefing wearing a flight suit, as well as several ads showing workers in command posts wearing flight suits.
I'm not really amused by all the Pentagon workers wearing utilities. It's not like service uniforms are all that hard to take care of.
Oh, well - I guess I'm just an old curmudgeon.
Correction - I'm not guessing...
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I was having this conversation with my son yesterday when he asked me what I thought the hardest military school was. Without hesitation I said the Air Force PJ program. I went to SERE with some PJ's in my squad. That was a vacation for them as it was an easier school out of the many they had to attend in the pipeline. Everyone I met I was very impressed with. They would always be the first to volunteer to carry extra equipment. My hats off to the PJ's. They have a long hard pipeline/training to make it through. If I remember correctly it took almost 15 months to make it through all the training.
I was having this conversation with my son yesterday when he asked me what I thought the hardest military school was. Without hesitation I said the Air Force PJ program. I went to SERE with some PJ's in my squad. That was a vacation for them as it was an easier school out of the many they had to attend in the pipeline. Everyone I met I was very impressed with. They would always be the first to volunteer to carry extra equipment. My hats off to the PJ's. They have a long hard pipeline/training to make it through. If I remember correctly it took almost 15 months to make it through all the training.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JSTARSZ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was having this conversation with my son yesterday when he asked me what I thought the hardest military school was. Without hesitation I said the Air Force PJ program. I went to SERE with some PJ's in my squad. That was a vacation for them as it was an easier school out of the many they had to attend in the pipeline. Everyone I met I was very impressed with. They would always be the first to volunteer to carry extra equipment. My hats off to the PJ's. They have a long hard pipeline/training to make it through. If I remember correctly it took almost 15 months to make it through all the training. </div></div>
The training all added up might take 15 months but a guy is lucky to get through the program in 2 years just because it is hard to line up all the schools.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JSTARSZ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was having this conversation with my son yesterday when he asked me what I thought the hardest military school was. Without hesitation I said the Air Force PJ program. I went to SERE with some PJ's in my squad. That was a vacation for them as it was an easier school out of the many they had to attend in the pipeline. Everyone I met I was very impressed with. They would always be the first to volunteer to carry extra equipment. My hats off to the PJ's. They have a long hard pipeline/training to make it through. If I remember correctly it took almost 15 months to make it through all the training. </div></div>
The training all added up might take 15 months but a guy is lucky to get through the program in 2 years just because it is hard to line up all the schools.
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