STFU and Eat Your Fruit Cup, Grandpa

[Veer_G]

I do think we're gonna see one big-ass bloodbath real soon now.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/27/opinion/john-paul-stevens-repeal-second-amendment.html

 

[Maggot]

I must say the muzzle loader on top is a much more beautiful artistic creation, but does it rock and roll?

 

[2ndamendfan]

I have to agree, the time line is moving faster than I would have guessed just a couple years ago.

 

[BoilerUP]

FORMER Justice Stevens: "Overturning that decision (Heller) via a constitutional amendment to get rid of the Second Amendment would be simple."

Simple, he says...

67 Senators
290 Representatives
38 state legislatures

I wonder if JPS has looked at an electoral map recently?

 

[oneshot86]

it is coming

 

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the comments are both hilarious and sickening....

well glad they are finally admitting it......not like we didnt know this all along.

actually bitch......yes, that is the sole purpose of the 2A, to gurantee our freedom from the govt........but maybe shes for govt controlling her life.

no, were for the 2A because we support life........because we know that without it, our future will look like this:

 

[Rthur]

I do think we're gonna see one big-ass bloodbath real soon now.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/27/opinion/john-paul-stevens-repeal-second-amendment.html

We may be looking at the above wrong.
It took 8 years of a manchurian candidate to energize the "conservatives" to finally show up.
This could be another "rallying cry" for the "silent majority" to get off their collective asses and vote.


R

 

[mdmp5]

Another white haired fucking democrat. These people never grow up

 

[MtnCreek]

I'm glad they're saying it out loud. I hope "Repeal 2A and take all the guns" becomes their rally cry.

 

[Strykervet]

Civil war will happen before total disarmament in US. It'll be the biggest constitutional crisis with real consequences ever seen in US. It'll also permanently divide the country ever after, and it'll never be anywhere close to the "America" anyone remembers from any era.

I'll turn in my weapons when the governments of the world, including my own, turn 'em in with me. GLOBAL disarmament. Yeah, I'm ALL for that. If trading in my weapons means NO MORE violence, no more armies, then yeah, it's a deal too good to turn down, but somehow I think the legislation will only end up targeting me and those like me. As it is they think they already control us --it's not like they are looking for compromises, they are looking for a way to FORCE us to bend to their will.

And you can't ban violence, as long as injustice and socioeconomic gaps increase, so will dissent that will lead to violence. No firearms = explosives, duh. Materials are available at every store in the union. The insurgency here would fucking EPIC too --our military isn't particularly suited to dealing with them historically, and this would be in our own country.

All for a "Star Trek" future without conflict but don't think we are ready for that nor is that their intention for disarmament.

 

[FS1]

Folks he was on the wrong side the first time. He just still wants to be right.

Many State Capitals would burn if they ratified a repeal. Their only hope is a Convention of States. This is the number one reason to never to have a Convention. You would have to trust those in attendance. Behind closed doors the only thing that happens is We get effed.

 

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Honestly i wish they would hurry up and get it over with.

because sure enough states would succeed and form their own union, probably north and south again.....we could have another civil war, and this time the correct side would win........then New South America would press the advance and reclaim New North America and we would be able to restore order and preserve our constitution again as god intended.


all this foot dragging is pissing me off, come and take them already, im sick of waiting.


we would carve off NYC and CA and let them go fuck themselves, while New America would prosper.


maybe amend the constitution so that it permits the instant execution of anyone trying to subvert the constitution in the future


then we could finally secure our borders and tell all the illegals and communists trying to get in to fuck off.....there are plenty of other countries thatll take your sorry ass.

 

[diverdon]

We may be looking at the above wrong.
It took 8 years of a manchurian candidate to energize the "conservatives" to finally show up.
This could be another "rallying cry" for the "silent majority" to get off their collective asses and vote.


R

I sure hope you are right. I do not see how any gun owner can ever miss any election, but I know many do.

 

[diverdon]

Folks he was on the wrong side the first time. He just still wants to be right.

Many State Capitals would burn if they ratified a repeal. Their only hope is a Convention of States. This is the number one reason to never to have a Convention. You would have to trust those in attendance. Behind closed doors the only thing that happens is We get effed.

I sure hope everyone here already knows that. Many times I have had NRA members tell me that we need a convention to modify the second amendment to include something (SBR's, Sliencers, Machine guns or what ever) One time I actually got punched for attempting to explain that a convention was more of a danger than a weapon we could use to help us. The thing is we already have all the rights that they hope to get, it is only a government operating beyond the Bill of Rights that restricts them.

 

[diverdon]

maybe amend the constitution so that it permits the instant execution of anyone trying to subvert the constitution in the future


then we could finally secure our borders and tell all the illegals and communists trying to get in to fuck off.....there are plenty of other countries thatll take your sorry ass.

Hmmm, how about a federal law that says every vet can kill any one person one time and not face any charges.

 

[FS1]

Clear Backpacks seem to open eyes. The Left is over playing their hand. They always do. Our best defense against them is to let them, be them.

 

[1J04]

Idiocracy comes to mind. These tools honestly don't have the wherewithal to 'fully' understand the ramifications of the absurd idea of disarming law abiding Americans. I believe that. If they did, and were cognizant of the fact our adversaries abroad are frothing at the mouth at such an idea, then well, these fucktards are honestly sicker than I imagined.

Don't like our piece of dirt and how we 'choose' to live? Move to the Middle East or Europe. Please.

 

[Badfinger]

Just glad he's retarded eh retired! You would have to be nuts to think the 2nd amendment is no longer necessary, just look at the size of the socialist party/movement in this country.

 

[Rthur]

Just glad he's retarded eh retired!

But like all democrats their opinion of their ideas always exceeds reality.

R

 

[_Windrider_]

FORMER Justice Stevens: "Overturning that decision (Heller) via a constitutional amendment to get rid of the Second Amendment would be simple."

Simple, he says...

67 Senators
290 Representatives
38 state legislatures

I wonder if JPS has looked at an electoral map recently?

you forgot 36 governers.

EDIT: 38

 

[Slash0311]

Seems I recall a person riding a horse calling those to arms. We may not be far off from that need once again.

 

[tea&jam]

I'll turn in my weapons when the governments of the world, including my own, turn 'em in with me. GLOBAL disarmament. Yeah, I'm ALL for that. If trading in my weapons means NO MORE violence, no more armies, then yeah, it's a deal too good to turn down...

My father (a liberal) sang this as a lullaby to us when I was a toddler. Little did he know I would get into black rifles and long range shooting because the idea of the government being the only group that knew how to use guns bothered me.

 

[W54/XM-388]

As it is now, there is the constitution and Federal law, but apparently if you are "liberal" and "progressive" you don't have to abide by the laws / constitution, but if you happen to be "conservative" and "Republican" you best do exactly whatever the corrupted courts twist the "constitution" to mean or Federal law to interpret.

A whole bunch of states basically say the 2nd Amendment is not something they are going to even acknowledge
A couple states & a bunch of cities say they will ignore the Federal governments constitutional control of immigration & entry into this country.
A whole bunch of states say they won't follow federal laws on drugs
Trump lets slip "Take the guns first, worry about law, court, rights & constitution later"

But those same people insist that we obey all their rules and twisting of the constitution & twisting of laws. Apparently when you twist the constitution upside down and inside out to court order same sex marriage because you couldn't get it voted in, we are just supposed to comply. They suggest that of course we should comply with any new gun restrictions.

It's kind of hard to even have a game if one side can just do anything they want anytime while insisting you stick to rules they keep re-writing to their advantage.

 

[CrazyHorse_mk14]

Hmmm, how about a federal law that says every vet can kill any one person one time and not face any charges.

In feudal Japan if the civilian class disrespected the Samurai class. Off with their head! I always respected that, I mean they fight for the country who’s gonna miss a little piss ant that can’t keep their mouth shut?!

 

[Greg Langelius *]

After awhile one tends to tune all this stupidity out. Wrong answer, but it is a big part of what the anti's are trying to accomplish.

As I learned in Civics class back in grade school, a citizen I had an obligation to stay informed about political issues and that voting was an obligation, and not an option. That has not changed but I doubt that's the way it's taught these days. That has to revert.

The story says Andrew Johnson avoided impeachment only because a gravely ill Congressman was carried into the capital on a stretcher to vote.

It is such legends, true or not, which counsel us to stay the course and to move heaven and earth to ensure your own vote gets counted.

Greg

 

[MtnCreek]

I'll continue to vote, and show up informed when I do, but I'm not under any impression that we'll vote our way out of this mess.

 

[deersniper]

WTF is voting going to help when .gov and retarded churches bring in millions of third world trash voters every year?

What do you think the founding fathers would be doing today? How about 100 years ago when this jumbo sized fedgov socialism got kicked into high gear?

 

[Mike_Honcho]

You will never see repeal of 2A come to the floor for an up or down vote. They know they’d loose. They also know that even if it passed, they’d loose.

The entire reason they are whipping this up to distract you and hope to goodness that someone / anyone that is associated with the Right does something shocking with a firearm such that they further their efforts. Legislatively, the goal is another little bite out of your rights. They have to do the frog in the pot thing. They know that, and you do too.

 

[QuickNDirty]

Lol, so desperate they'd hire some folks to carry a bunch of guns into a hotel room in another state and call the cops on themselves?

 

[Yasherka]

@mcameron I'm with you except for this:

we would carve off NYC and CA and let them go fuck themselves, while New America would prosper

Fuck them. There are plenty of socialist shitholes with nice shorelines around the globe they can move to.

 

[quietmike]

At least he's admitting repealing the 2nd is needed for banning guns.
Lots of lefties don't think that's the case.

 

[Nik H]

All noise...nothing to see here...

It is all rhetoric and nothing more

 

[Alex126]

All noise...nothing to see here...

It is all rhetoric and nothing more

No, it's not.

This is their true intentions finally coming to light because they feel emboldened enough to come out of the closet.

Dismissing it offhand is a huge mistake.

 

[srtsam]

I can't help that i get the feeling that these older libs are eager to change the constitution because they will not be around to witness damage to the country they help cause by their idiot beliefs.

 

[Fig]

I'll continue to vote, and show up informed when I do, but I'm not under any impression that we'll vote our way out of this mess.

Democracy IS the problem. This is a Republic. It's supposed to be leavened with democracy, it's not a friggin yeast roll! Our rights aren't up for debate. Their limits are, but that's another story. I totally agree that dropping the BS "common sense gun laws", and being honest about disarming the people helps our side immensely. Choosing children to carry their cross is idiotic. The children aren't going to lie their lies. They'll expose both themselves and the totalitarians they serve.

 

[pmclaine]

I can't help that i get the feeling that these older libs are eager to change the constitution because they will not be around to witness damage to the country they help cause by their idiot beliefs.

To some extent Im hopeful this is the last gasp of the 60s counterculture.

Bill Ayres is somewhere with his boxers at his ankles slow stroking over this and Obama claiming he will replicate a million times.

and dont forget that Bill Ayres thinks it perfectly reasonable to have to kill 25 million Americans in order to cow the country into accepting his militant brand of socialism.

The reason not to ignore this shit is because with last weekends march and new calls to change the voting age to 16 its hoped they can rebuild that 1960s illness.

I dont think it will happen though as they have been so successful in dumbing down the rising generation that they neither have the determination, brains or discipline to commit to an endeavor that will require great privation of them.

 

[pmclaine]

Democracy IS the problem. This is a Republic. It's supposed to be leavened with democracy, it's not a friggin yeast roll! Our rights aren't up for debate. Their limits are, but that's another story. I totally agree that dropping the BS "common sense gun laws", and being honest about disarming the people helps our side immensely. Choosing children to carry their cross is idiotic. The children aren't going to lie their lies. They'll expose both themselves and the totalitarians they serve.

Agreed Democracy is a mess.

If we were a democracy we would still have slavery.

 

[Flyingbullseye]

The story says Andrew Johnson avoided impeachment only because a gravely ill Congressman was carried into the capital on a stretcher to vote.

I knew McCain was old but damn.



This reply on the link was well written.


Let's just repeal them in order, starting with the 1st amendment. The ignorance of liberals is astounding. That long-gun was 'state of the art' in the 1700's. The "militia" refers to every able-bodied man and woman. "Well regulated" (in the 1700's) meant 'proficient and organized'... and the phrase "being necessary to the security of a free state" meant 'in order to preserve personal liberty'. i.e. "Free state" refers to a free/liberated 'existence', the word 'state' is lower-case, not capitalized. Stephens is precisely the type of black-robed tyrant for which the 2nd amendment was created... EVERY military coup and socialist dictatorship begins by disarming the citizens.

But on a larger note can anyone answer this.

What is the difference between average John Smith on the street who owns an AR and average John Smith police officer or soldier who uses the same type platform? If average on the street John personally owns an AR but is also a LEO and puts on his uniform why is he considered less prone to commit a mass shooting than without it? This by the way the same officer would also be protested for the very same reason, he is a police officer and thus in their eyes someone who has a desire to kill people most specifically minorities. Same for the military Smith. I'm not understanding how someone that just dons a uniform is considered to be the only one that should carry/own said firearm who by the way may or may not be experiencing PTSD but if you don't wear one you're a mass killer in waiting.

Any help here.

 

[pmclaine]

This reply on the link was well written.


Let's just repeal them in order, starting with the 1st amendment. The ignorance of liberals is astounding. That long-gun was 'state of the art' in the 1700's. The "militia" refers to every able-bodied man and woman. "Well regulated" (in the 1700's) meant 'proficient and organized'... and the phrase "being necessary to the security of a free state" meant 'in order to preserve personal liberty'. i.e. "Free state" refers to a free/liberated 'existence', the word 'state' is lower-case, not capitalized. Stephens is precisely the type of black-robed tyrant for which the 2nd amendment was created... EVERY military coup and socialist dictatorship begins by disarming the citizens.

But on a larger note can anyone answer this.

What is the difference between average John Smith on the street who owns an AR and average John Smith police officer or soldier who uses the same type platform? If average on the street John personally owns an AR but is also a LEO and puts on his uniform why is he considered less prone to commit a mass shooting than without it? This by the way the same officer would also be protested for the very same reason, he is a police officer and thus in their eyes someone who has a desire to kill people most specifically minorities. Same for the military Smith. I'm not understanding how someone that just dons a uniform is considered to be the only one that should carry/own said firearm who by the way may or may not be experiencing PTSD but if you don't wear one you're a mass killer in waiting.

Any help here.

Sorry we cant make sense of liberal thinking because it is based on emotion and false premises.

Those that formulate their policies know exactly that their efforts are false but they rely on lying about their intent and fear and irrationality to make it seem logical.

When you try to argue the policies on a reasoned level they pivot to attacking you personally and slander you wih a lable to shut you up.

If they claim you are doing something criminal you can be sure they are guilty and actively doing that of which they accuse you.

Dont try to change the diehard liberals.......take a fence sitter shooting and educate them on history.

 

[hermosabeach]

same logic-
Freedom of speech should only cover what was available at the time of publication-
Written
Newspapers
Not TV, Internet, etc


Slavery should be OK
Women should not be allowed to vote...


Lots of idiots out there... no education is what public schools teach

 

[JSTARSZ]

Really good article today in National Review 2nd Amendment Procedure Removal

 

[Limedust]

Another white haired fucking democrat. These people never grow up

Stephens is a republican ... just a note.

 

[Rthur]

Stephens is a republican ... just a note.

Is there a difference these days?

R

 

[Limedust]

Is there a difference these days?

R

Sorry. Stevens. No ... not much at all.

 

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Stephens is a republican ... just a note.

no... Stevens CALLS himself a republican...

 

[The King]

I always liked THIS conversation with liberals.

Me: "Gun control right? I understand. Just so we can get to know each other a bit more, do you feel that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were a good idea?"

Liberal: "WHAA!!! The USA is a shithole compared to Africa or the Middle East. Whaa. Wait what? Oh, yeah, the war there was just us killing innocent women and children!!!"

Me: "Right. Is Donald Trump 'Literally Hitler'?"

Liberal: "Do you have any weed? TRUMP IS LITERALLY HITLER!"

Me: "Okay..So - let me get this perfectly straight. According to your answers YOU want to be TOTALLY DISARMED while being the main target of a government that kills innocent men, women, and children by the boatload because they are just bored led by LITERALLY HITLER!"

Liberal: (drool, weed smell abounding) "Hunh?"

 

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A civil war you say? Vs the fed gov. How many of you will die to see 2A alive. ?

We can either die fighting for it.... or die when they round us up into box cars.....

Personally ide rather die a free man

 

[alpine44]

We can either die fighting for it.... or die when they round us up into box cars.....

Personally ide rather die a free man

Let's not forget that it is not just our guns but also our belief in self-reliance, our stance towards religion, our definition of marriage, our binary gender, our ancestry, etc. that is at odds with the progressive agenda.

The difference between us and them is that we would not care what they do by themselves if they left us alone in our ways. It does not work the same the other way around - as we see on a daily basis. They cannot reach their dystopic dreams without getting rid of "conservative" values first by marginalizing or criminalizing anybody who subscribes to these values.

In other words, even if you surrender your guns, they still will not let you live in peace the way you prefer.

 

[j-huskey]

@pmclaine, post 36, u said they're calling for lowering voting age to 16 ? I hadn't seen that .

But, hypocracy in spades, last two weeks 18 wasn't old enough to buy a gun, now 16 to vote, hmmm.
And most state laws now restrict what a 16 year old driver can do, because the law makers , with evidence, decided 16 year olds failed to display good enough judgment in a car to be given free rein... gfd!!!!!

None of this directed at your post......

 

[CrazyHorse_mk14]

Civil war?!! Ain’t gonna be a damn thing civil about it.. War Of the States II. Not too sure I’d fight in that one, didn’t work out too good for my ancestors last time. Let’s go to Mexico !!! I mean 3/4 of them are over here so we could take that shit over quick.. the marines made short work of it last time.. just saying