Okay getting the shits of cabin fever and want to get ready for spring time grond hogs. I don'thave a can (yet) but no plans for one any time soon. But what I was wondereing is if any of you guys worked on sub sonic load that would work on grond hogs? Something in the 165 blistic tips or 178 A-max out of a 308? My stick has a 1-12 twist?? Only plan on shooting these to 200 ish? Just want something littel quiter than normal rounds? I'm not that far out in the country and sound is a consern! Thanks for any input Im ready for spring!!