Suppressor load development vs muzzle brake load development?

[7magsavage]

I usually shoot suppressed but occasionally I would like to shoot with my brake to cut down on the overall length of my rifle. Problem is that since I work up my loads with my suppressor on, I find out when I take the can off and put the brake on my groups go to shit. Do I need to work up a load for my brake as well as a load with the can? How do you guys do it when you want to switch muzzle devices?

 

[spife7980]

Well it seems like you answered your own question. It shoots shitty when the can is off so yes, it sounds like you need to retune your load for it.

I will shoot a group of 5 after I develop to see if its alright without the can just in case I ever need to, thats really the only time I shoot without my can unless I just forget to put it back on. Thats always a surprise

 

[redneckbmxer24]

I've never had a rifle shoot a load well suppressed but not unsuppressed. Had a rifle not shoot well suppressed but that was because of the shitty AAC 18 tooth suppressor mount, not the rifle or load.

I shoot better suppressed though, are you sure it isn't the shooter?

What kind of brake? Sure it isn't an issue with the brake shouldering? ES/SD stay good?

 

[trob_205]

I’ve done all my load development with a can and never have I seen any drop deterioration by taking it off. I would test ES/SD with and without to see what’s up. Maybe it’s possible you’ve found a scatter node the can likes. Positive Suppressor Compensation

 

[morganlamprecht]

i do the opposite, all load dev with a brake and when i put my Omega or Hybrid on, all loads still shoot sub moa...they may open or tighten a little, but its not enough that i care

 

[phlegm]

Also, developing a load with the brake first protects your can, just in case a new bullet is not stabilizing. Chances are slim that you'd have an issue, but still a possibility.

 

[7magsavage]

I am using an RWS brake. Fits fine as well as I can tell. The can is a TB 30P-1.
Never tried to check ES with and without the can.