Have a rifle built on a Surgeon action. Looking to restock and rebarrel it. Before I rebarrel it I was thinking of having an M16 type extractor installed and having it DLC or Melonite coated. Will the M16 extractor work on a Surgeon bolt?
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Yes, but it will require some competent gunsmithing. What problems are you having with the Remington style extractor?
I have no particular issue with it. But I would like the option of an easier extractor to replace. Plus if I'm gonna melonite or DLC it then I would like to have the work done beforehand.
You can buy a new bolt like you are wanting from Surgeon. Then you could sell me your old one real cheap.
Check with Surgeon, but I am pretty sure only the magnum bolt faces are available with the M16 extractor.
I was under the impression you could get it (mini-16)on The 591’s on the .473 Bf. Don’t see why not?
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Yes, a 591 308 bolt is available with a Remington style or an M16 style extractor.
One of the best things about the surgeon is that they’re one of the few customs that still come with a standard Remington extractor. You can buy 10 new Remington extractors for the price of the installed M16, and your angle of extraction will remain correct(unlike the m16). That’s enough extractors to easily outlast you, and probably the receiver itself.
Can you elaborate on this?
When Dave Tooley and Robert Gradous like the quote, no elaboration should be needed. I would think this is the route I would go!
The factory ejector is behind the lug, so ejection is at about 3:30. Any extractor you add has to be on top of the lug, raising the angle of ejection, usually into the bottom of the windage turret.
Excellent point. So if it's an issue then why is it offered on a Surgeon bolt and why do so many gunsmiths offer the service.
Because people ask for it. Back in the day it was a sako extractor, m16 is the current fad.
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I've always heard that replacing a Remington extractor was a pain in the butt. So without considering the cost which is easier to replace?
That impressed me, but it didn't learn me why.
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Makes perfect sense, thanks for explaining that.
It’s not hard at all. You just need something small enough to get under it. It’s sprung into its pocket. That’s The beauty of it. There are no other parts it relies on for function(pins, springs, etc). The key to its reliability is to keep debris out from behind it. A blast of contact cleaner occasionally works wonders. As noted in the vid, do not remove it for maintenance. Once it it’s removed for any reason, toss it and install a new one.
Didn't realize it was that easy. May just have it Melonited then.
Some Remington extractors are riveted in place. Those take the correct tools and a little more effort to replace.
You likely heard they were difficult to replace from people who didn't have the tools or experience.
