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Teaching Children to Shoot and Other Things That Piss Off Leftists

Longshot231

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    This is an old video. It was okay till about 5:40 when the actor/salesman hands the father and AK-47. That was too much of a set up and an attempt to make a gun-owning father look bad. Still, I'm surprised that ABC would air something like this.

    So is there anyone here that had real-life encounters with snowflakes and Karens that object to your kids learning how to shoot?




    Bonus videos. This little girl was about seven when she started her shooting YouTube channel.




    She isn't afraid of the 10mm.

     
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    Nope. Know nothing about teaching my kids to shoot.
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    I always thought that was what a parents job was to teach or help there children grow getting involved , being a part of . if your not able to teach then guide them to someone who can . Regardless what any one else thinks or how they feel about it it's your child . The pissing the left off while doing it is just the cherry on top .
     
    Long time ago I took my son and daughter out to some property to learn about weapons. Took my AR-15, a 12ga shotty, and a .410 single shot. Since we had a skeet thrower we decided that might be fun as well.

    Both of my kids learned about weapons safety, fingers off the trigger until they were ready to fire, and what weapons can do. I expressed weapons safety and how badly they can hurt people when we don't use the weapons safely. In the end they loved it. We got out the skeet thrower only to see the kids were pretty damn good with a .410 single. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

    Fast forward a few years.....I had a son and daughter that could out hunt me. :oops: :oops: :LOL: :LOL:
     
    My boy is 26 and getting married in Oct. When he was young he thought I was an ass hole, sorry I am not your friend I am your dad. That does not mean we can't have fun together, we did and still do. It means I will say no when you want me to say yes.

    You are raising adults not raising children. It is clear just by looking around that a great many people are raising children, how else do you explain this "Karen" thing. Half of this "karen" thing would be solved by a good quick swat on the butt. And oddly enough I had to do that only once.

    He had a 22 rifle (winchester 190) in his room, ammo was where he could access it. Guns laying all over the house, a "hide" gun in about every room, he knew where they where. I was never worried.....till.....

    He hit his teens and like most teens his brain fell clean out of his head. It all got locked up. Not because I did not trust him, but his idiot "friends". And even with the no guests in the house when we are not there rule, I knew there had to be people there. No cameras back then....at least I did not have them.

    Oddly enough as he got older and he moved out and finally found his brains I became smarter again. Funny how that works.

    We shot often but not that often, he really was not that interested in it.
     
    Teaching your children to shoot and safely handle guns is teaching life skills. They
    Learn responsibility, self protection and the ability to feed themselves and others. I could care less about who likes it or not.
     
    No problems here, but we avoid contact w/ the haters, so...
    Son & daughter have been shooting lots of things all their lives!
    Son was a competitive shooter, daughter just burned up dad's ammo and had fun doing it.
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    My son is 30. Never fails we plan a range trip and the night before he'll ask, "Hey, Dad. Got any (insert caliber here) I can borrow?" If he ever repays me, I won't have to buy/load another round the rest of my life. Small price to spend a day at the range with him
     
    Teaching your children to shoot and safely handle guns is teaching life skills. They
    Learn responsibility, self protection and the ability to feed themselves and others. I could care less about who likes it or not.

    More than life skills, I think that another message is conveyed to the child. That message is one of trust and strengthening the bond between parent and child.

    Once the child learns that, when mishandled, a firearm can be dangerous. When handled properly he or she learns that firearms can be safe and a fun way to spend the day.

    The underlying message the child gets is that the parent trusts them enough with a potentially dangerous device. Their self-esteem is buoyed by the fact that they know that mom or dad trusts them with a gun. They don't get the feeling that they are treated like a child but like a peer.

    The word "peer" in that last statement may be to strong of a term to use but it's the best one that I can think of.

    The other thing that the child also learns from shooting with the parent is that when they listen to and follow mom or dad's instructions they can do really neat things. So they will be ready to listen when it comes to other matters.
     
    I have told this story on other forums before, but I am pretty new here so will tell it for you guys......it is a bit long like most of my stuff.

    YEARS ago one of the local news channels did a gun safety thing. They grabbed several kids, all under 10 and told them to stay in this room, everyone that stayed would get cake, but if it was an emergency they could run across the hall and an adult would be there. Read into this they did everything they could to make the kids want to stay in the room. In the room was toys, video games, TV, and a gun, a real gun with as I remember the firing pin removed, and unloaded, but it was a "real" gun. It was "hidden" but not well, they wanted the kids to find it, and see what they would do. The kids found it and it was quite interesting, all kids that had been brought up with guns left the room to get an adult, they did this with again IIRC 3-4 different groups, The kids that got told guns are evil things and to never ever touch one, did touch it, and the outcomes are likely what you imagine. I really wish I could find this again, but it does not go with the narrative so it is likely gone forever.

    As I recall they interviewed one father asking him why his little johnny left the room for an adult, All of them had guns in the house and if they wanted to see them and learn about them they could under supervision. If they wanted to shoot all they needed do was ask. They learned that the gun is no different from a hammer, it is just a tool, how it is used is up to the person holding it. They learned what they can do and learned to go get help if one was ever found. The "parents" of the kids that picked up the gun and pointed it at people pulling the trigger.

    Those parents could not get their head around how their children could act this way. Children are curious creatures and want to learn, their heads are empty and there is a desire for it to be filled. Say never touch something and the next natural question is why. It is just a thing.

    There was a bit of back and forth between the two different "kinds" of parents, with some saying how unsafe it was to let a child handle a firearm. One dad, clearly a country boy said, well my kid did not kill anyone and yours did, so my way is clearly better.

    I have looked off and on for this, and never able to find it. I am betting at least 10 years old, so this is all off memory but the main drift of it is correct.
     
    Children are curious creatures and want to learn, their heads are empty and there is a desire for it to be filled. Say never touch something and the next natural question is why. It is just a thing.

    Almost all people, regardless of age, are that way. Tell them not to do something, and they will find a way to do it without getting caught. If they won't do whatever it is that is forbidden, it's because they know that the consequences of doing so are so severe that the risk of disobeying is not worth it.

    So how many of you reading this removed the tag that said; "don't remove under penalty of law?"

    Come on, don't hide from us. You know who you are:)
     
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    My son is 30. Never fails we plan a range trip and the night before he'll ask, "Hey, Dad. Got any (insert caliber here) I can borrow?" If he ever repays me, I won't have to buy/load another round the rest of my life. Small price to spend a day at the range with him
    Lucky son of a bitch! I’m 30 and my dad bums way more ammo off of me than the other way around. I’m definitely more into firearms than he is though. In fact I’ve given him more guns than he has bought himself.
     
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    Grandkids started school.
    Middle kid is 9th grade and he and a friend were talking how fun it was shooting that past weekend here.
    They shot 9mm and 22 out of a golden boy.

    Bitch teacher gave grandkids friend a day of in school detention for talking about guns.
     
    When my kids were in college, I made it a point for them to ask their friends if they wanted to go shooting (indoor range shooting handguns and carbines). Seems I would always get a ton of kids from New Jersey. All of them were afraid of the guns before we hit the lanes. I took them all into the classroom and held a short class. Safety was paramount but just getting them handling the firearms properly took away a lot of their fear.

    They all loved it except for 1 girl who took one shot with a Ruger 22 and she had enough. Most said they'd do it again. A few said they wanted to buy a firearm and the few from NJ, I had to explain what they had to do to just buy a gun and ammo. They weren't too happy about that.

    All in all, my kids and I opened the eyes of a few liberal kids to the fact that firearms aren't man killers. They can be used for recreation, hunting as well as maybe save your life one day.

    If the kids have liberal, gun hating parents, they will never know how much enjoyment people can get from shooting guns.
     
    Hillsborough county schools here in Florida.
    Cray cray

    Isn't it insane how the same county on opposite sides of the compass treat firearms?

    Our HS has an actual rifle team.
    They also have shop that includes electrical, welding and animal care.

    It's not the school board, it's the principal and teachers.
     
    Isn't it insane how the same county on opposite sides of the compass treat firearms?

    Our HS has an actual rifle team.
    They also have shop that includes electrical, welding and animal care.

    It's not the school board, it's the principal and teachers.
    Mikey.
    This highschool ALSO has a rifle team for JROTC...

    And guess what else. The coach asked me if his rifle team could practice here. He was bragging at the gun shop that I let his kids shoot here.

    It's just crazy.
     
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    A 10mm is scary? :unsure:

    Anyways, I have the show stopper for pissing off Leftist Karens. Teach kids this book:

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    I’ll be hitting the double whammy in a few years. I’ve got a Henry .22 and a Mossberg(I think?) .22 mag bolt gun for my sons when they get a few years older

    They like going to the church daycare on Sunday mornings and we are seriously talking about some sort of Christian school when they get to middle school
     
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    The same school that officially asked to shoot on my place gave In school detention to my kids friend for talking about shooting here.

    I'm getting hot again
    Lol, that sounds like a school that wouldn’t be using my property ever again
     
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    The kids in my home don’t get the option of learning what I consider to be lifesaving skills. Everything is age appropriate.

    The three oldest kids have all been through:
    -basic firearms safety and function
    -when to run, when to hide, and when to attack/fight and basic defense
    -anti-kidnapping and landmark recognition
    -how to talk to emergency service dispatch
    -concealment and cover differences and uses
    -CQB and structure clearing
    -first aid


    My oldest (not the oldest kid in the house) is really into this type stuff and gets a lot more instruction in regard to tactical mindset and the stuff surrounding the shooting sports.

    We have only had a couple of trips to live-fire, but he’s done well with it.

    Another fun thing we’ve done was some of this:

    https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/took-my-son-out-to-play-“spot-the-sniper”.7127734/

    We have gone out a couple more times, to continue the fun, but the environment wasn’t great, those times.
     
    Lol, that sounds like a school that wouldn’t be using my property ever again
    I'm not going to fuck it up for the kids.
    The kids parents should have hacked on the witch that punished him. She's real lucky she didn't punish my grandkid.
    I know peeps, I'll put this on slow boil till I can use it for full effect on her
     
    My daughter is gonna do a full report about shooting.

    She said “I bet I can tie it all in with our unit on the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Revolution”

    She wants to tell the story of her first rifle, to the rifle she has now, to the one we are building.

    I expect a couple conversations.
    Should be a good time. 😁
     
    Happiest day of my life was when I got my crossman 760 pellet gun at age 10. And then when I turned 13 I got my Remington 572 field master. Back in the mid 70’s this was a common thing and nobody thought twice. I feel real sorry for these kids growing up in todays America.
     
    The same school that officially asked to shoot on my place gave In school detention to my kids friend for talking about shooting here.

    I'm getting hot again

    Was the kid talking when class was in session? In other words, was he disrupting the class by talking out of turn?

    I'm not taking up for the teachers or the principal that gave him detention but sometimes a kid will stretch the truth.

    Was he saying that he got in trouble because he was talking about guns or did he really get into trouble for disrupting the class while talking about guns?

    If he was talking about guns during recess or lunch that's a different matter than talking out of turn regardless of the subject.
     
    Was the kid talking when class was in session? In other words, was he disrupting the class by talking out of turn?

    I'm not taking up for the teachers or the principal that gave him detention but sometimes a kid will stretch the truth.

    Was he saying that he got in trouble because he was talking about guns or did he really get into trouble for disrupting the class while talking about guns?

    If he was talking about guns during recess or lunch that's a different matter than talking out of turn regardless of the subject.
    He got in trouble for talking about shooting, and my guns, while in the hallway.
    If he disrupted class and got detention I wouldn't have said anything here
     
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    Our highschool has a sporting clays team sponsored by the FFA. The school also has an “honor wall” dedicated to outstanding accomplishments (both athletic and academic). The only state championship team the highschool has had is the sporting clays team. The team (as well as individuals, where applicable) have plaques in the atrium of the school denoting their shooting prowess.

    My if kids in the above mentioned study group.

    “Hey, there’s a gun in the toy bin.”

    “So what? there was a gun on the breakfast table this morning too.”
     
    This shit sucks. My kids are hunters. We have been hunter gatherers for millenia, now all of the sudden we are only allowed to eat what we can afford to buy from a store. Last year my middle boy had a great teacher who understood that simple fact. The year before he was written up for everything from making a "Finger Knife" in the lunch room to making an explosion sound while putting his toys away after an assignment in class.
     
    A 10mm is scary? :unsure:

    Anyways, I have the show stopper for pissing off Leftist Karens. Teach kids this book:

    Screen-Shot-2020-02-27-at-3.03.14-PM.png

    I’ll be hitting the double whammy in a few years. I’ve got a Henry .22 and a Mossberg(I think?) .22 mag bolt gun for my sons when they get a few years older

    They like going to the church daycare on Sunday mornings and we are seriously talking about some sort of Christian school when they get to middle school

    When our enemies heard that it was known to us and that God had frustrated their plan, we all returned to the wall, each to his work. From that day on, half of my servants worked on construction, and half held the spears, shields, bows, and coats of mail. And the leaders stood behind the whole house of Judah, who were building on the wall. Those who carried burdens were loaded in such a way that each labored on the work with one hand and held his weapon with the other. And each of the builders had his sword strapped at his side while he built. The man who sounded the trumpet was beside me. And I said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “The work is great and widely spread, and we are separated on the wall, far from one another. In the place where you hear the sound of the trumpet, rally to us there. Our God will fight for us.
    - Nehemiah 4:15-20
     
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    He got in trouble for talking about shooting, and my guns, while in the hallway.
    If he disrupted class and got detention I wouldn't have said anything here

    Thanks for the clarification.

    The witch that gave him detention thinks she will turn him into a liberal but the effect of giving him detention is just the opposite.

    I was in the 4th grade in 1968. The teacher was giving a class on current events. The subject was Vietnam. The Tet offensive was in high gear.

    The teacher, was about 68. She was a real old socialist.

    Anyway, she said; "Children, our soldiers in Vietnam have had to fire upon children your own age. How would that make you feel if you had to shoot at someone your own age?" She paused then called on me for the answer.

    My Father was a WWII vet and during that period of my life I was in a lot of fist fights in the neighborhood. In my 10-year-old mind, I had a pretty good appreciation of what it means to fight to survive.

    So I said that I would shoot back and kill them if they were trying to kill me. Well, goodness gracious, that was the WRONG answer!

    See got the rest of the class to gang up on me, in a manner of speaking. I didn't back down. I stood on my convictions so much that the socialist teacher sent me out in the hallway to think about my "murderous" attitude.

    Several weeks later we had another class. She told the class that in this scenario, there is a bomb shelter in our backyard. There has been a nuclear attack on the US.

    Each of us has taken refuge in the bomb shelter with five other people. The bomb shelter only has enough food and water for five people and not six.

    She gave us a sheet of paper with the run-down of the occupants in the shelter. We were tasked with playing God and choosing someone in the group to go outside and die from the fallout.

    We couldn't choose ourselves. We were told that there were no right or wrong answers but be prepared to justify our answer.

    I was taught that life was precious. Since there were no right or wrong answers, I decided that nobody would have to die. We could split the rations six ways not five.

    The teacher gave us time to think then polled my classmates for their answers. When she got to me, I told her my answer on how to save everyone in the shelter.

    Once more, that was the WRONG answer. She told me that I had to pick one. I replied; "But you said there were no right or wrong answers!"

    She told me not to get smart with her and I spent the rest of the class out in the hallway.

    Afterward, I asked a classmate what she said about me while I was in the hallway.

    He laughed, rolled his eyes and replied; "She said you had 'problems."

    I share all that with you to say that the teacher thought that she was going to turn me into another socialist like her. Just the opposite was true.

    I was so disgusted by her actions toward me that I became an ultra-right-wing-God-fearing-bible-believing-gun-toting-conservative and vowed never to give into another socialist scumbag ever again!

    The kid that got detention, for talking about guns, will probably grow up to do likewise. In fact I can predict that we'll have a lot of uber-conservatives in the next generation because the "wokeness" infecting society right now.
     
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    Almost all people, regardless of age, are that way. Tell them not to do something, and they will find a way to do it without getting caught. If they won't do whatever it is that is forbidden, it's because they know that the consequences of doing so are so severe that the risk of disobeying is not worth it.

    So how many of you reading this removed the tag that said; "don't remove under penalty of law?"

    Come on, don't hide from us. You know who you are:)

    Agree....to a point. I know enough about electricity to be dangerous, I can put in a box in my barn and wire it up but past that nope. Here at work if the right thing happens and we loose power there is this big switch in the basement, something out of a 1930's monster movie, you stand on this rubber mat, and there is a big lever you move up and down a couple times and then BANG the lights come on. I don't even want to be in the hallway when it happens.

    This is the view the parents are trying to get with telling their kids gunz are evil. But there is no base line for them to draw on, in my power case I know enough about the little electrical pixies that I can't see to respect the hell out of them, the kids have never been down that road.

    At least that is what I think the issue it.
     
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    This is the view the parents are trying to get with telling their kids gunz are evil. But there is no base line for them to draw on, in my power case I know enough about the little electrical pixies that I can't see to respect the hell out of them, the kids have never been down that road.

    Conversation between Parent and Son:

    Son: Can I go over to Billy's house?

    Parent: What are you going to do at Billy's house?

    Son: We're going to shoot his twenty-two rifle.

    Parent: No!

    Son: But...

    Parent: There's no "buts" about it. We've talked about this before. Guns are dangerous.

    Son: But it's only a twenty-two and his Father is going to be with us.

    Parent: NO! That's final!

    Photo of Marlin Glenfield Model 60. Approximate muzzle energy 100 ft-lbs.

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    Different conversation between Parent and Child:

    Son: Can I go over to Billy's house?

    Parent: What are you going to do at Billy's house?

    Son: We're going to shoot his air rifle.

    Parent: Did you say air rifle? Not a real gun; correct?

    Son: Yes. It's an air rifle. It only shoots one bullet at a time. It uses air, like a BB gun.

    Parent: Well, I suppose that's a lot safer than a REAL gun. You promise me that you boys are not going to shoot a REAL gun but an air rifle or BB gun or whatever you call it.

    Son: Yes. I promise.

    Parent: Okay you can go to Billy's house but be home in time for dinner.

    Photo of an AirForce .50 caliber Texan air rifle. Approximate muzzle energy 600 ft-lbs as opposed to 100 ft-lbs from the .22LR.

    u2204-2.jpg
     
    My daughter is gonna do a full report about shooting.

    She said “I bet I can tie it all in with our unit on the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Revolution”

    She wants to tell the story of her first rifle, to the rifle she has now, to the one we are building.

    I expect a couple conversations.
    Should be a good time. 😁
    Very cool @powdahound76 .. tiny bit of food for thought/research:



    Also the legends and stories surrounding Robert Rogers, Daniel Morgan, and Francis Marion are fit for prime time TV/Hollywood.
     
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    If you make guns taboo, you make them cool. When was the last time any kid whispered to another; “hey, you wanna see my dads socket set?” Teach them about guns. When they say, “dad can I see your garand,” say “YES!” Put them in their hands. Use their interest to teach about safety and operation. Field strip it. Get the cleaning stuff out and teach little Jimmy how to clean and lube it. Have him put it back together. Dry fire with them. A lot. Insist on a safe and clear background, even while dry firing in the house. Make guns into tools and they aren’t cool anymore.
     
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    My son is 30. Never fails we plan a range trip and the night before he'll ask, "Hey, Dad. Got any (insert caliber here) I can borrow?" If he ever repays me, I won't have to buy/load another round the rest of my life. Small price to spend a day at the range with him
    Lucky. I‘ve been covering my dads ammo for years. On birthdays and Christmas I swap his barrels and upgrade his equipment.

    Id eat ramen and crackers before I stop shooting with dad.
     
    Conversation between Parent and Son:

    Son: Can I go over to Billy's house?

    Parent: What are you going to do at Billy's house?

    Son: We're going to shoot his twenty-two rifle.

    Parent: No!

    Son: But...

    Parent: There's no "buts" about it. We've talked about this before. Guns are dangerous.

    Son: But it's only a twenty-two and his Father is going to be with us.

    Parent: NO! That's final!

    Photo of Marlin Glenfield Model 60. Approximate muzzle energy 100 ft-lbs.

    106_9184.jpg_thumbnail1.jpg


    Different conversation between Parent and Child:

    Son: Can I go over to Billy's house?

    Parent: What are you going to do at Billy's house?

    Son: We're going to shoot his air rifle.

    Parent: Did you say air rifle? Not a real gun; correct?

    Son: Yes. It's an air rifle. It only shoots one bullet at a time. It uses air, like a BB gun.

    Parent: Well, I suppose that's a lot safer than a REAL gun. You promise me that you boys are not going to shoot a REAL gun but an air rifle or BB gun or whatever you call it.

    Son: Yes. I promise.

    Parent: Okay you can go to Billy's house but be home in time for dinner.

    Photo of an AirForce .50 caliber Texan air rifle. Approximate muzzle energy 600 ft-lbs as opposed to 100 ft-lbs from the .22LR.

    u2204-2.jpg
    Kind of an aside. My dad “inherited” a glenfield model 60 from a friend/coworker that passed several years ago. He calls me up and says “hey, I’ve got a 22 that needs to be cleaned.” Ok, I’ll get it the next time I see you. This thing was so gunked up that it barely cycled. You could time the speed of the bolt with a sun dial. It’s the only time I’ve ever disassembled a gun and thought “I’m never getting this thing back together.” YouTube saved the day for both disassembly and assembly, but assembly was way more janky as there no longer was a few decades of gunk holding all of the pins in their locations. It went together and ran like a top when I gave it back to dad.

    There’s quite routinely a gun in some state of disassembly out in the house somewhere- usually on the kitchen counter. It’s not even a point of conversation beyond “can you move this somewhere else?”
     
    Kind of an aside. My dad “inherited” a glenfield model 60 from a friend/coworker that passed several years ago. He calls me up and says “hey, I’ve got a 22 that needs to be cleaned.” Ok, I’ll get it the next time I see you. This thing was so gunked up that it barely cycled. You could time the speed of the bolt with a sun dial. It’s the only time I’ve ever disassembled a gun and thought “I’m never getting this thing back together.” YouTube saved the day for both disassembly and assembly, but assembly was way more janky as there no longer was a few decades of gunk holding all of the pins in their locations. It went together and ran like a top when I gave it back to dad.

    There’s quite routinely a gun in some state of disassembly out in the house somewhere- usually on the kitchen counter. It’s not even a point of conversation beyond “can you move this somewhere else?”
    Thats my 13yo‘s favorite rifle. It looked like it was dredged from a river when I got my hands on it. We refinished the stock, recrowned with a screw, reblued it and replaced the nylon buffer for around $5. Runs like a top, just like you said.

    I have a soft spot for the old Sears guns.
     
    Lucky son of a bitch! I’m 30 and my dad bums way more ammo off of me than the other way around. I’m definitely more into firearms than he is though. In fact I’ve given him more guns than he has bought himself.

    HA. My son has a modest collection. He has never purchased a firearm. All were gifts from the wife and I, his wife or other family members.
     
    Anything worth teaching is worth teaching early. Both my kids have been shooting a .22 with a red dot at steel out of the bed of my truck or a gator since they were 3 and shooting a bolt .22 with magnified optic prone at paper by 5. They have been around firearms and livestock their entire lives. They already know more about the world than the average adult in this day and age. The "progressive" and "modern" world may not be what I know how to navigate but my kids will damn sure know how to thrive once it all crashes down and we're back to basics.
     
    Conversation between Parent and Son:

    Son: Can I go over to Billy's house?

    Parent: What are you going to do at Billy's house?

    Son: We're going to shoot his twenty-two rifle.

    Parent: No!

    Son: But...

    Parent: There's no "buts" about it. We've talked about this before. Guns are dangerous.

    Son: But it's only a twenty-two and his Father is going to be with us.

    Parent: NO! That's final!

    Photo of Marlin Glenfield Model 60. Approximate muzzle energy 100 ft-lbs.

    106_9184.jpg_thumbnail1.jpg


    Different conversation between Parent and Child:

    Son: Can I go over to Billy's house?

    Parent: What are you going to do at Billy's house?

    Son: We're going to shoot his air rifle.

    Parent: Did you say air rifle? Not a real gun; correct?

    Son: Yes. It's an air rifle. It only shoots one bullet at a time. It uses air, like a BB gun.

    Parent: Well, I suppose that's a lot safer than a REAL gun. You promise me that you boys are not going to shoot a REAL gun but an air rifle or BB gun or whatever you call it.

    Son: Yes. I promise.

    Parent: Okay you can go to Billy's house but be home in time for dinner.

    Photo of an AirForce .50 caliber Texan air rifle. Approximate muzzle energy 600 ft-lbs as opposed to 100 ft-lbs from the .22LR.

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    This is a real good point. Being active in the air gun world I know a bit about that. I have always said keep your voice down, as soon as "they" find out you have an air gun that can hit a golf ball at 600 yards we are in trouble. As soon as "they" find out people are hunting something the size of a deer with an over grown BB gun it is all over.

    Thing is they already know, they are just picking their battles. Stand on your head if you think after they win the powder gun battle you will not see "europe like" air gun laws over here.

    And if things really do turn against "them" they will focus on our air guns....with built in silencers no less....oh the horror.
     
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    When my kids were in college, I made it a point for them to ask their friends if they wanted to go shooting (indoor range shooting handguns and carbines). Seems I would always get a ton of kids from New Jersey. All of them were afraid of the guns before we hit the lanes. I took them all into the classroom and held a short class. Safety was paramount but just getting them handling the firearms properly took away a lot of their fear.

    They all loved it except for 1 girl who took one shot with a Ruger 22 and she had enough. Most said they'd do it again. A few said they wanted to buy a firearm and the few from NJ, I had to explain what they had to do to just buy a gun and ammo. They weren't too happy about that.

    All in all, my kids and I opened the eyes of a few liberal kids to the fact that firearms aren't man killers. They can be used for recreation, hunting as well as maybe save your life one day.

    If the kids have liberal, gun hating parents, they will never know how much enjoyment people can get from shooting guns.
    I’ve taken quite a few Jersey-ites shooting over the years, south East PA is full of them. Convinced 2 to move out of NJ to PA, both are die hard 2a guys now.

    You must be somewhat local to me if you’re dealing with Jersey folks… they’re a peculiar bunch 😂
     
    This is a real good point. Being active in the air gun world I know a bit about that. I have always said keep your voice down, as soon as "they" find out you have an air gun that can hit a golf ball at 600 yards we are in trouble. As soon as "they" find out people are hunting something the size of a deer with an over grown BB gun it is all over.

    Thing is they already know, they are just picking their battles. Stand on your head if you think after they win the powder gun battle you will not see "europe like" air gun laws over here.

    And if things really do turn against "them" they will focus on our air guns....with built in silencers no less....oh the horror.

    As we already know, just making a "finger gun" in school will get a student disciplined. So it doesn't matter what it is. As long is it is something to do with sending a projectile down range, "they" hate it.