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The Big LaRue LT706 Mystery

Sigma05

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A while back I was looking to see if somebody made a permanent picatinny quick release base for the Harris bipods. Not one on these adapters, that just about everyone sells, that has a sling swivel on one side and the picatinny adapter on the other. I wanted something that replaces the original Harris swivel base that attaches to the sling swivel. Turns out I found two. Alamo Four Star and LaRue both make them. Alamo has the complete bipod, or the base alone. LaRue on the other hand only sells you the complete bipod. It's called the LT706. I prefer the LaRue setup because it's lighter, has a lower profile, and the lever system is more to my liking. LaRue also has a rep for making quality stuff. Here are some pics of the LaRue setup:

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My problem was that I had a many Harris bipods laying around the house, and didn't see the point in buying another or spending twice as much. Also LaRue only sells their base on the 6-9 and 9-13 bipods. I wanted it for the 13.5-27 Harris bipod. I write them an email to see if it's possible to get the base alone. I get a reply from James from the technical department. This is what he had to say: "<span style="font-style: italic">We don't sale the mounts individually. We build them into the bipods. It isn't something that can be done on a work bench in the garage.</span>" Darn! Maybe they had to mod the bipod to attach the base? Even then I figured that with my skills I would be able to make it work. So I gave up...........until a shooting buddy showed up to the range with one of them. I asked him to borrow it to see what the big mystery about this LaRue base is. I go home and start checking it out. It seems that everything looks straight forward. I wondered if maybe there was a spring under heavy load that required a special tool to compress it to be able to assemble it. I decide to take a leap of faith and pull it apart. I get my 1/4" socket wrench and and loosen the nut inside the big knob. Nothing flies apart. I then release the big knob. Nothing flies apart. Out come the two parts and the bipod is fully disassembled. No big mystery. No flying parts. Nothing! It's all very straight forward. Here is a pic of the two bipods. They are a great example because one is painted and it's easy to see what parts have been swapped. I even installed the large knob on the bipod with the factory base to show that all the parts are completely interchangeable. The red arrow shows where the 1/4" nut is, which is all the is required to install it.

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It annoys me when a company such as LaRue takes you for a ride. Why couldn't they just say that they made so many bipods already, and that they didn't want to sell the bases separately till they sold all the bipods, to not lose on their investment. Not that it's the reason, but an example of a simple answer, instead of lying and treating me like I was an idiot. It's their company and they are free to do as they wish, but lying to me just gives me a reason to never buy from them. Alamo Four Star will get my business.
 
Re: The Big LaRue LT706 Mystery

I'd recommend buying the Alamo adapter from Scott at Phoenix Tactical. Alamo Four Star can be difficult to obtain from and Scott carries just about every Alamo product and is great to deal with.

I have one of the Alamo adapters and have been very pleased with it.
 
Re: The Big LaRue LT706 Mystery

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BasraBoy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ARMS will sell you a lever mount for the Harris.

http://www.armsmounts.com/default.asp?mode=products&sub=mounts&id=[hsh]32 </div></div>

It's only an adapter. I wanted something that replaces the original sling swivel base. It keeps the profile lower and more stable. Thanks for the heads up anyways.
 
Re: The Big LaRue LT706 Mystery

That's odd... I asked to buy the LT706 adapter alone instead of the LT130 and was told I could. Bought the LT706 without an issue. This was in August. Installation was a breeze, as you mentioned.

I've bought from Larue a lot of times in the past and always been very satisfied. I would give them a call and see what they say about your experience. i'd be curious to know...
 
Re: The Big LaRue LT706 Mystery

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chawk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's odd... I asked to buy the LT706 adapter alone instead of the LT130 and was told I could. Bought the LT706 without an issue. This was in August. Installation was a breeze, as you mentioned.

I've bought from Larue a lot of times in the past and always been very satisfied. I would give them a call and see what they say about your experience. i'd be curious to know...

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Good to know that. Jason must be one of those employees that has no clue how the company he works for operates.
 
Re: The Big LaRue LT706 Mystery

ARMS is the closest thing you can get. It doesn't replace the entire Harris base, but it does replace the original Harris tension screw. With the tension screw removed, the ARMS adaptor bolts directly to the Harris base.

I agree with you. Fuck LaRue. I actually had a similar conversation with them about this very topic. I think the ARMS version is very smart because it actually bolts to the Harris base and elimates the ever-loosening Harris tension screw completely. I asked LaRue why they didn't make one with this design. I was laughed at, and told their bipod adaptor with the sling stud was good enough. They told me if I didn't like the Harris tension screw then I needed to learn how to use Loctite.

Now I see that they understand my point, but decided to maximize their bank accounts by building only complete bipod units. Pricks.
 
Re: The Big LaRue LT706 Mystery

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JerkeeJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Call and ask for one of the Marks and I'm sure you'll get taken care of. At least that's always been my experience. </div></div>

Will do once I get back Stateside. Thanks
 
Re: The Big LaRue LT706 Mystery

I've dealt with LaRue on MANY occasions. Their technical advice and customer service has always been top notch. I have several LaRue/Harris bipod mount combos, so I'm pretty familiar with how the mounts and bipods are set up. Having said that, I've read your original post several times, looked at the pictures, and I'm still confused as to what you're describing. Possibly a picture of the painted bipod WITHOUT the mount would have cleared things up for me, anyway.

My point is, if I'm pretty familiar with the engineering of these mounts/bipods, and even with pictures I'm having difficulty understanding what you're describing, don't you think it's possible that what you're really dealing with is a communication issue? To publicly accuse a company like LaRue of "taking you for a ride", "lying", and "treating you like an idiot" seems to be blown way out of proportion from my viewpoint.

I understand you're upset and frustrated over this issue. But there were lots of options you could have pursued to rectify things before attacking LaRue via the internet. For example, you could have just made almost the exact same post and simply asked the members here, "I am I missing something?".

JMO.

 
Re: The Big LaRue LT706 Mystery

I abstained from saying anything till I personally checked to see if "am I missing something here". I did go through customer service first, and the reply I got was posted on my first post. I actually had more than one conversation with them, and I always got the same treatment. I made sure that I covered all my bases before mentioning everything. Once I saw that all it took was to remove a 1/4" nut, remove the the shaft, remove the original base, replace with LaRue base, put the shaft back in, and tighten the 1/4" nut, that this did not require special shop skills or tools as they said it would. It couldn't have been more straight forward. I don't believe on keeping quiet about such things, but you are free to also voice your opinion. As you can see from other posts, I'm not the first person to get treated this way. What's the point of living in a free country if you can't defend your own views and opinions?
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BTW. Alamo Four Star has a video on how easy it is the switch the bases if anyone is interested.
 
Re: The Big LaRue LT706 Mystery

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sigma05</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's the point of living in a free country if you can't defend your own views and opinions?
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I agree completely. Believe me, I've gone through similar things with other manufacturers' and I know the frustration. I'm just sorry to hear you had such a bad experience with LaRue, they've always been great for me. I guess the most important thing is that you seem to have gotten your rig working the way you wanted.

BTW: For some, removing a 1/4" nut, removing a shaft, replacing base/shaft, and tightening the 1/4" nut <span style="font-weight: bold">DOES</span> require special shop skills (LOL).