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Re: The Case for a New NATO Cartridge
"Europe has a problem and America must fix it!"
"Europe has a problem and America must fix it!"
Re: The Case for a New NATO Cartridge
I can come up with a nice Power Point doo hickie on how posting this crap in the reloading section would have saved brain cells from thousands of people who might read it, but the facts are, if your going to shoot full auto, 5.56 is a pretty easy round to so with, if NATO, America, or any other tax payer burden system switches to another round, our troops will still be out gunned by somebody, and the only real winners will be the contractors who supply the new ammo, the new barrels, new weapons, and so on....................
I can come up with a nice Power Point doo hickie on how posting this crap in the reloading section would have saved brain cells from thousands of people who might read it, but the facts are, if your going to shoot full auto, 5.56 is a pretty easy round to so with, if NATO, America, or any other tax payer burden system switches to another round, our troops will still be out gunned by somebody, and the only real winners will be the contractors who supply the new ammo, the new barrels, new weapons, and so on....................
Re: The Case for a New NATO Cartridge
Go back to M14 and 7.62. If you can't handle the recoil join the Air Force.
Go back to M14 and 7.62. If you can't handle the recoil join the Air Force.
Re: The Case for a New NATO Cartridge
Are we sure this is not a case for the 3000 calories a day (plus excersize) instead of a midling new cartrige? That is, make the kids big enough that the 7.62 is just fine.
Are we sure this is not a case for the 3000 calories a day (plus excersize) instead of a midling new cartrige? That is, make the kids big enough that the 7.62 is just fine.
Re: The Case for a New NATO Cartridge
The creator of this powerpoint also posts on another site I visit. He has a bias and I suspect may not have too much practical shooting experience. He frequently misses with his 'fact-speak'
The creator of this powerpoint also posts on another site I visit. He has a bias and I suspect may not have too much practical shooting experience. He frequently misses with his 'fact-speak'
Re: The Case for a New NATO Cartridge
The biggest fail I see in his reasoning is his misunderstood of speed factor both in energy retention and accuracy (windrift & drop).
When i read "Low-drag bullet fired at medium velocity" page 21/28 I would prefer to read "Low-drag bullet fired at enough velocity to keep good ballistics and also good barrel life".
Not to be a "ammunition consultant" to knows that taking the cartridges ranking in F-Class matches of the ten last years is the best panel you can find.
Then choice criteria are known from all custom rifle buyer...
The biggest fail I see in his reasoning is his misunderstood of speed factor both in energy retention and accuracy (windrift & drop).
When i read "Low-drag bullet fired at medium velocity" page 21/28 I would prefer to read "Low-drag bullet fired at enough velocity to keep good ballistics and also good barrel life".
Not to be a "ammunition consultant" to knows that taking the cartridges ranking in F-Class matches of the ten last years is the best panel you can find.
Then choice criteria are known from all custom rifle buyer...
Re: The Case for a New NATO Cartridge
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sinister</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Europe has a problem and America must fix it!" </div></div>
Lol, that's funny! Seems it was the other way around when it comes to the 338 Lapua Mag.....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sinister</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Europe has a problem and America must fix it!" </div></div>
Lol, that's funny! Seems it was the other way around when it comes to the 338 Lapua Mag.....
Re: The Case for a New NATO Cartridge
the whole read thorugh is funny.
the whole read thorugh is funny.
Re: The Case for a New NATO Cartridge
The 30-06 was making long shots a century ago. They switched to the 308 to save weight on the grunts and ammo expense with powder and brass but still get rounds to 600+ yards. The 30-06 was shooting 1200- 1400 yards from 1903-A3 in WW1.
The 30-06 was making long shots a century ago. They switched to the 308 to save weight on the grunts and ammo expense with powder and brass but still get rounds to 600+ yards. The 30-06 was shooting 1200- 1400 yards from 1903-A3 in WW1.
