The German WW2 standard rifle ammo had a .56 g1 bc

[762libertarian]

I figured this is the right place to appreciate the ballistics of the standard German rifle cartridge of ww2. It had a G1 bc substantially higher than the much younger .308 180 gr Nosler ballistic tip.

The below is quoted from the wiki article.

7.92×57mm Mauser - Wikipedia

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The German standard s.S. Patrone ("s.S. ball cartridge") was originally designed for long range machine gun use. It was loaded with a 35.3 mm (1.39 in) long, boat-tailed, s.S. - schweres Spitzgeschoß ("heavy pointed or spitzer bullet") full metal jacket bullet and very well made.[22][26] It was lead filled, had a gilding-metal-plated jacket, and weighed 12.8 grams (197.53 gr). The s.S. Patrone had a muzzle velocity of 760 m/s (2,493 ft/s) fired from a 600 millimetres (23.62 in) long barrel and an operating pressure of 320 MPa (46,412 psi).
[...] the s.S. Patrone became the standard German service ball cartridge in the 1930s when the German rearmament program started.

[...]with a G1 ballistic coefficient between 0.593 and 0.557 (ballistic coefficients are somewhat debatable) or a ballistic coefficient of approximately 0.295 (G7). When fired at the typical muzzle velocity of 760 m/s (2,493 ft/s) out of a 600 mm (23.6 in) barrel the s.S. bullet retained supersonic velocity up to and past 1,000 m (1,094 yd) (V1000 ≈ Mach 1.07) under International Standard Atmosphere conditions at sea level (air density ρ = 1.225 kg/m3).

 

[Forgetful Coyote]

IIRC @sandwarrior has mentioned before they're stable out to like 2500yd or something ridiculous

 

[sirhrmechanic]

I think the 6.5 Jap Arisaka and the 6.5 Carcano were also pretty good. I think they were up around .275...

The Arisaka's were some serious rifles. Like 6.5 Creedmoor 80 years early. And the manbuns on those guys were samurai topknots!

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[TorF]

The Germans could have used that 198gr bullet in sniper rifles chambered for the 8x68s at 2900fps in WW2. The 8x68 is designed to fit in a M98 standard action with a few modifications. Who needs 338lm?

The 8x68s do not need modern magnum powders to get this performance. Norma N204 is the "sweet spot".

 

[Forgetful Coyote]

The Germans could have used that 198gr bullet in sniper rifles chambered for the 8x68s at 2900fps in WW2. The 8x68 is designed to fit in a M98 standard action with a few modifications. Who needs 338lm?

@DAVETOOLEY has done some good work with that case
Believe he set a few records even.. back in the day in 1000yd BR. Those RWS cases are tough! Every bit as strong as Lapua cases

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[ZG47A]

The performance of that ammo is why I have suspected for a while that one U.S. motivation for insisting on a .30 cal NATO round was to prevent the 7.92x57sS round from becoming the standard NATO medium machine gun i.e. the standard support company, tank etc machine gun. It was already the standard British tank machine gun round.

 

[762libertarian]

Who makes 8 mm bullets that mimic the old heavy pointed bullet? Prvi?

 

[ZG47A]

Hornady make a hollow point boat tail. I suspect that they copied the legendary discontinued Norma HPBT.