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The OFFICIAL 'Wuhan' Coronavirus outbreak information and tracking thread. NARRATIVE CHANGE. "Endemic, just like the cold". Cuomo regrets lockdown.

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Dead Patient Infects Medical Examiner With COVID-19

''It should now make sense why China was so adamant in cremating bodies as the fast-spreading virus terrorized Wuhan earlier this year. That is because, a new report published on April 11 says a medical examiner recently passed away after contracting COVID-19 from a corpse.

The incident took place in Bangkok, Thailand, at an unknown date, when a medical worker was infected with the virus after conducting tests on a COVID-19 corpse, the study said, which was recently published in the Journal of Forensic and Legal Medicine.

The death of the medical examiner "is the first report on COVID-19 infection and death among medical personnel in a Forensic Medicine unit," according to the authors.''

Or it could be coroner just got covid on one of his ladyboy visits
 
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100% agreed. I just don't see us getting through this sort of turmoil without some other country - yes, likely China - shooting their shot while we are distracted, disabled, divided, whatever. Had this conversation with an enlighted friend of mine last month, and he's not quite so sure yet, so maybe I'm being fatalistic. Looking at history, I think it's just being realistic.
Agreed. look at the reports of the Chicoms doing some suspicious nuke testing and the Iranians buzzing USN ships the last couple of days (which by the way I think we should be blowing their fucking up-armored wake board boats out of the water). I totally believe the Chicoms are behind this for a number of reasons. I think Trump's hard line with them on the trade deal for one. They want to wreck our economy and could give a shit about wrecking theirs short term because they don't care about the people (their elites and super rich are just as insulated from it as ours) and are playing the long game.
I'll not be surprised to see something spin up in the So. China Sea with the CVN Roosevelt being effectively out of commission.
It isn't a coincidence IMO that all this is happening in a presidential election year. Think about it.
 
Diabolical weapon that requires the reaction to "harm self" be worse than the result of the weapon.

China couldnt have guessed we would chop off both arms/legs in reaction to a splinter in our pinkie finger.
They didn’t have to guess. They have co-conspirators here and abroad. The WHO lying along with Fauci and Birx using the IMHE models funded by the Gates Foundation as weopons to scare the sheep, with the media as the loud speaker, it was a well thought out plan with a high chance of success.
 
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WHO Blocked Doctors From Urging Border Controls To Stop Spread Of COVID-19

The World Health Organization blocked doctors from urging countries to impose border controls to stop the spread of coronavirus, it has been revealed. While the organization was demanding countries impose zero border controls, it was also campaigning against the profiling of international travelers in order to prevent the “stigmatization” of Chinese people (hurt feelings). We first reported on the WHO telling countries not to impose travel bans back at the end of January, when the organization released a statement urging against “any travel or trade restriction” while demanding countries not engage in “discrimination” in their handling of the coronavirus outbreak. In early February, Director-General of the World Health Organization Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus re-iterated this in a statement in which he said that travel restrictions “can have the effect of increasing fear and stigma.” Right up until the end of February, the WHO continued “to advise against the application of travel or trade restrictions to countries experiencing COVID-19 outbreaks,” despite the rapid spread of the disease. It has now been revealed that medical experts who were urging countries to impose border controls were silenced.

“[WHO] actually decided not to go ahead with [travel ban recommendations] and not declare a global health emergency but there were a few dissenting voices,” reported Sky News Australia. “So the official meeting records say there was a divergence of views but they won’t actually go into detail about who was trying to block it. But there were doctors there who wanted to issue travel bans and the World Health Organization blocked it.” The effort to silence medical professionals from urging countries to enact travel bans was made on January 30 during a meeting of WHO bureaucrats and health experts in Geneva, Switzerland. A Mount Sinai study found that New York City’s record-high coronavirus cases and deaths were “predominately” due to travel from Europe, meaning that many more lives could have been saved if borders had been closed down earlier. But instead, the WHO insisted that maintaining the globalist principle of the international traffic of people was more important than stopping a global pandemic.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/who-blocked-doctors-urging-border-controls-stop-spread-covid-19



 
WHO Blocked Doctors From Urging Border Controls To Stop Spread Of COVID-19

The World Health Organization blocked doctors from urging countries to impose border controls to stop the spread of coronavirus, it has been revealed. While the organization was demanding countries impose zero border controls, it was also campaigning against the profiling of international travelers in order to prevent the “stigmatization” of Chinese people (hurt feelings). We first reported on the WHO telling countries not to impose travel bans back at the end of January, when the organization released a statement urging against “any travel or trade restriction” while demanding countries not engage in “discrimination” in their handling of the coronavirus outbreak. In early February, Director-General of the World Health Organization Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus re-iterated this in a statement in which he said that travel restrictions “can have the effect of increasing fear and stigma.” Right up until the end of February, the WHO continued “to advise against the application of travel or trade restrictions to countries experiencing COVID-19 outbreaks,” despite the rapid spread of the disease. It has now been revealed that medical experts who were urging countries to impose border controls were silenced.

“[WHO] actually decided not to go ahead with [travel ban recommendations] and not declare a global health emergency but there were a few dissenting voices,” reported Sky News Australia. “So the official meeting records say there was a divergence of views but they won’t actually go into detail about who was trying to block it. But there were doctors there who wanted to issue travel bans and the World Health Organization blocked it.” The effort to silence medical professionals from urging countries to enact travel bans was made on January 30 during a meeting of WHO bureaucrats and health experts in Geneva, Switzerland. A Mount Sinai study found that New York City’s record-high coronavirus cases and deaths were “predominately” due to travel from Europe, meaning that many more lives could have been saved if borders had been closed down earlier. But instead, the WHO insisted that maintaining the globalist principle of the international traffic of people was more important than stopping a global pandemic.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/who-blocked-doctors-urging-border-controls-stop-spread-covid-19





Another case of "orange man bad".. ????
 
I'm torn on the effectivity of border controls in this particular situation. *If* we had sufficient notice, it would have totally helped reduce the spread, and I think that restricting travel from China when we did had at least some moderate benefit. But China was slow to catch on to the situation, and then they deliberately spread inaccurate information for a period of weeks (note that this is the most generous take on the scenario; there are many uglier ones). So we had about a half-million people that traveled between China and the US between the time that the virus supposedly took hold in the Wuhan area and the time that we restricted (not banned) travel from the mainland.

Furthermore, we didn't restrict travel between the US and Europe for a few more weeks, and there was some untold amount of traffic between Europe and China that allowed the virus to spread via this path. It's my understanding that this was the primary vector of transmission into New York.

Honestly, I think the way to deal with this in the future is to severely limit travel from China to North American and Europe until such a time that they can get their act together.
 
Time for some Communist propaganda :devilish:

Seriously who or what do you think WHO is , its a an organisation that works mostly in and for 3rd world shitholes without any robust homegrown healthcare systems in place not some UN mandated medical gestapo.

Sure WHO screwed big time i am also certain that its 3rd world centric-China friendly, but its not really down to them what countries enact , do you realy think WHO issues and advisory statement and only then can domestic institutions act , if you think so then you are counting yourself a 3rd world country as these might somewhat rely on WHO .

This prancing around is now more or less a form of virtue signaling for some dumb fucks like comrade Fig that prior to this never heard of WHO . no more and no less .

Screw ups in relation to COVID are pretty much domestic in nature , anyone claiming otherwise is simply dishonest , we have all seen live real time shitshow kicking of in China 2 months(check news feed mid January , Wuhan is first page news every day) before any real steps were taken at home.

Of course the whole impeachment theatre likely played a huge role in total intelligence and leadership failiure.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/25/coronavirus-worst-intelligence-failure-us-history-covid-19/
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...c-coronavirus-united-states-trump-cdc/608215/
 
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Hmm...


Hmm indeed.

Someone smarter than me should read this, but I have as many problems with the actual article... as i do with the MSM fear-mongering.

From the highlights:
• Based on the currently available genome sequence data, we proved that SARS-COV-2 genome has a much lower mutation rate and genetic diversity than SARS during the 2002-2003 outbreak. (GOOD THING)
• The spike (S) protein encoding gene of SARS-COV-2 is found relatively more conserved than other protein-encoding genes, which is a good indication for the ongoing antiviral drug and vaccine development. (GOOD THING)
• Minimum Evolution phylogeny analysis revealed the putative original status of SARS-CoV-2 and the early-stage spread history.
• We confirmed a previously reported rearrangement in the S protein arrangement of SARS-COV-2, and propose that this rearrangement should have occurred between human SARS-CoV and a bat SARS-CoV, at a time point much earlier before SARS-COV-2 transmission to human.
• We provided first evidence that a mutated SARS-COV-2 with reduced human ACE2 receptor binding affinity have emerged in India based on a sample collected on 27th January 2020. (GOOD THING?)


So tell me, how does a low mutation rate and homogeneous gene pool complicate vaccine development?
 
one thing i can guarantee, the fuckers that leaked this in china r dead for getting caught and they r working on another more powerful as we speak
 
FB is shutting this video down now, saying facts r incorrect. Shut it down on my page
Much more likely explanation IMO:
  • Wuhan bio lab close to market studies zoonotic viral diseases that jump from bats to humans. (There are archived job postings and papers from the lab that mention this).
  • Worker in lab fucks up but does not know it due due long incubation time.
  • Infected worker goes to market for lunch or to get food on the way home and infects people there.
  • Disease spreads faster in the densely packed, high-traffic market than in the personal circle(s) of infected worker(s).
  • CCP makes infected worker(s) disappear (some individuals who were posted on the labs website are now gone physically and on-line) and spins the wet market story.
While I consider the CCP as an evil empire I also give them enough intellectual credit for not messing around with a viral bio weapon for three reasons:
  • They would need a reliable antidote which is next to impossible to secure for an RNA virus that can mutate rather quickly
  • They know what happens to them if they ever get caught with 'smoking gun' evidence
  • Their goal is world domination, not world annihilation. Everyone knows that.
What the CCP tried to hide is their incompetence.
 
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Plot getting thicker not only milions in US taxpayers money also researchers to work at the fucking Wuhan lab

''A Facebook fact checker who has 'debunked' articles suggesting that COVID-19 may have leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) has a giant conflict of interest; she worked at the institute - which is now suspected of accidentally leaking the hyper-virulent virus which has killed over 130,000 people and cast the global economy into chaos.Danielle Anderson, who works at Duke University's NUS Medical School lab in Singapore, also contributes to Science Feedback - which Facebook has been using to slap "False Information" labels on articles claiming that COVID-19 may have originated at the Wuhan institute - where Anderson worked with bat coronavirus.A quick search of Anderson's publications reveals no fewer than nine collaborations with Dr. Peng Zhou - a Wuhan scientist experimenting on bat coronavirus (the mention of whom may result in a Twitter ban).
Anderson has been adamant that the lab adheres to the highest standards of safety, and that COVID-19 simply couldn't have accidentally been leaked by her colleagues.

"I have worked in this exact laboratory at various times for the past 2 years. I can personally attest to the strict control and containment measures implemented while working there," Anderson writes in one such 'debunking' of a New York Post article that claims "China [is having] a problem keeping dangerous pathogens in test tubes where they belong" while Science Feedback cast doubt on the Post's claim that "evidence points to SARS-CoV-2 research being carried out at the Wuhan Institute of Virology."

Except, they were carrying out SARS-CoV-2 research
at that exact lab, according to new reports in the Wall Street Journal, the Daily Mail and Fox News.

An April 9 report in the Journal reveals that COVID-19 is genetically identical to a coronavirus found in a horseshoe bat "collected by hazmat-clad scientists from the Institute of Virology in Wuhan."

While a Wednesday report from Fox News reveals that COVID-19 leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and that "patient zero" was an employee who became infected before spreading it throughout the community, according to 'multiple sources who have been briefed on the details.'
And while Anderson was busy covering for her corona-labmates with Facebook debunkings implicating the WIV, she went on national television to explain that the virus could have only come from outside the lab.

Anderson further peddled the now-debunked wet-market theory in a paper she co-wrote in The Lancet, which reads: "While recognising the tremendous effort by the China CDC team in the early response to the 2019-nCoV outbreak, the small number of team members trained in animal health was probably one of the reasons for the delay in identifying an intermediate animal(s), which is likely to have caused the spread of the virus in a region of the market where wildlife animals were traded and subsequently found to be heavily contaminated. Unfortunately, what animal(s) was involved in transmission remains unknown."

Any suggestion to the contrary is now deemed 'False Information' by Facebook, thanks to the highly conflicted Danielle Anderson and crew over at Science Feedback.''
 
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The evidence is piling up. When Mr BR starts questioning the communist propaganda you know it’s bad. Too bad the Chicoms destroyed every last bit of evidence at both the lab and the market to make certain that only their propaganda narrative remains.

The most compelling evidence, to me, are all the published research papers about that lab trying to create a coronavirus that would jump to humans on purpose. There are even counter articles for years ago criticizing the whole premise of that endeavor. Pretty startling.
I bought their Explanations initially too, but once they started lying about the numbers it became clear they were lying about everything.
 
It took till April 15 for the softheads to even question the "If the chicoms"! When the chicom doctors that started to speak out and the chicom media people started to vanish not a word. They still think that China had less than 4k deaths and no new cases in a country of 1.4 billion of a disease you can catch from a corpse.
Now you know how a democrat can get elected with such ease
 
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The most compelling evidence, to me, are all the published research papers about that lab trying to create a coronavirus that would jump to humans on purpose. There are even counter articles for years ago criticizing the whole premise of that endeavor. Pretty startling.
I bought their Explanations initially too, but once they started lying about the numbers it became clear they were lying about everything.

Just to add a bit of nuance to the above statement - they didn't necessarily have to create the virus, but rather to simply have discovered it in nature and give it a helping hand. There are a range of possibilities that still come back around to point a finger at China.
 
True, but the published papers concern trying to alter those little crown/spike proteans to penetrate human cell membranes. There is no question, none, that they were TRYING to create this very coronavirus at the Wuhan lab. The evidence out in public is completely damming, and strains credulity that the same virus they were postulating and actively trying to create suddenly sprang fully-formed from the head of Zeus right down the street... really?

Chinese are a good example of why there is a Prime Directive in Star Fleet. I liked them better as communal farmers rather than mad scientists and evil global hegemons.
 
It took till April 15 for the softheads to even question the "If the chicoms"! When the chicom doctors that started to speak out and the chicom media people started to vanish not a word. They still think that China had less than 4k deaths and no new cases in a country of 1.4 billion of a disease you can catch from a corpse.
Now you know how a democrat can get elected with such ease
ANY number coming out of China or ANY socialist/communist country/party is a lie.
Their entire political philosophy is a lie that obscures and ignores human nature.
 
ANY number coming out of China or ANY socialist/communist country/party is a lie.
Their entire political philosophy is a lie that obscures and ignores human nature.
Now apply that to you’re government and many if not all institutions and you will be red pilled. ?
 
Time for some Communist propaganda :devilish:

Seriously who or what do you think WHO is , its a an organisation that works mostly in and for 3rd world shitholes without any robust homegrown healthcare systems in place not some UN mandated medical gestapo.

Sure WHO screwed big time i am also certain that its 3rd world centric-China friendly, but its not really down to them what countries enact , do you realy think WHO issues and advisory statement and only then can domestic institutions act , if you think so then you are counting yourself a 3rd world country as these might somewhat rely on WHO .

This prancing around is now more or less a form of virtue signaling for some dumb fucks like comrade Fig that prior to this never heard of WHO . no more and no less .

Screw ups in relation to COVID are pretty much domestic in nature , anyone claiming otherwise is simply dishonest , we have all seen live real time shitshow kicking of in China 2 months(check news feed mid January , Wuhan is first page news every day) before any real steps were taken at home.

Of course the whole impeachment theatre likely played a huge role in total intelligence and leadership failiure.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/25/coronavirus-worst-intelligence-failure-us-history-covid-19/
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...c-coronavirus-united-states-trump-cdc/608215/
Easy, boy. You cannot blame our esteemed intelligence agencies. They can't possibly evesdrop on any conversation on this planet....oh wait...
 
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South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem hits back at critics of her coronavirus response: 'I believe in our freedoms and liberties'

"I took an oath when I was in Congress obviously to uphold the Constitution of the United States," she continued. "I believe in our freedoms and liberties. What I’ve seen across the country is so many people give up their liberties for just a little bit of security and they don’t have to do that."


A reminder that the Smithfield plant in SD is owned by the Chinese...

Hobo

 
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True, but the published papers concern trying to alter those little crown/spike proteans to penetrate human cell membranes. There is no question, none, that they were TRYING to create this very coronavirus at the Wuhan lab. The evidence out in public is completely damming, and strains credulity that the same virus they were postulating and actively trying to create suddenly sprang fully-formed from the head of Zeus right down the street... really?

Chinese are a good example of why there is a Prime Directive in Star Fleet. I liked them better as communal farmers rather than mad scientists and evil global hegemons.

They were on their way to self destruction until Nixon through them a life line. Probably a Bush CIA idea.

Clintons give them technology.

Than Bush junior let's em join the worlds economies though they have a BS economy.

Oh what a tangled web we weave.
 
TEXAS OPENS UP.
in measured steps starting now.

Governor Abbott on news now laying it out.
 
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If something doesn't promote increased medical costs and insurance premiums it is shunned by the money grubber system.

All competition to the establishment is suppressed with fervor.
Totally, that's why no one treats heart attacks with aspirin and all the data on its efficacy was suppressed...

edit: I probably need to clarify that the above is sarcasm, for the uninformed.
 
Totally, that's why no one treats heart attacks with aspirin and all the data on its efficacy was suppressed...

edit: I probably need to clarify that the above is sarcasm, for the uninformed.


We are killing our hospitals right now as they layoff health care workers due to the current nobility to provide other services.

When we make it through this we will start losing people for lack of care for the hospitals regular clients.

St Vincent's Worcester, finding it hard to stay open due to shut down.......
 
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100% agreed. I just don't see us getting through this sort of turmoil without some other country - yes, likely China - shooting their shot while we are distracted, disabled, divided, whatever. Had this conversation with an enlighted friend of mine last month, and he's not quite so sure yet, so maybe I'm being fatalistic. Looking at history, I think it's just being realistic.

This has been my scary feelings on it as well.

Could happen for multiple reasons. A big one could be because China will deeply feel this economically, and the best way to get your country out of an economic depression is to get the war machine going.

I hope we are wrong.
 
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We are killing our hospitals right now as they layoff health care workers due to the current nobility to provide other services.

When we make it through this we will start losing people for lack of care for the hospitals regular clients.

St Vincent's Worcester, finding it hard to stay open due to shut down.......

The hospital my wife works at is losing around ~$10million per month or something like that, they are so empty and shutting down services to "be ready" for the Coronavirus.
 
My my....
Looks like the players here are the same, but singing a different tune now.
Shouting some of us down, telling us we didnt love our momma....tsk, tsk.

What happened to all you doctors, that had this figured for the Black Death.

Since my littlis vacation, I have more personal knowledge and eye witness accounts of this actual virus.

None of this crap going on in our country is about a virus.
The virus is a nothingburger, and for you folks that dont "habla" that doesn't mean i said the virus doesn't exist. It also diesn't mean the virus doesn't kill people. It is a nothingburger, because it isnt any more dangerous to the general population, than Influenza.
 
Corona cooking.......

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Smoking out the neighborhood to keep the CV away and give people with masks a reason to wear them.

Got another rack of wood cut and stacked this morning to keep things smoky.

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This was supposed to be day three of the family Moab vacation. Places we were booked with have all said they don't know if they will be open going forward.

Luckily we got all our money refunded.

Fucking snow coming tonight.........hope I don't get a cold.
 
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Conspiracy? No conspiracy?
You cant be serious. "Its too big!" You must not be familiar with the term, "uesful idiot".
"They" have been hard at work supressing real help, real science from the get go."Read our chart peasant!!"
Where the fuck are those charts now? Not working now huh?

Of course....our doctors and nurses by and large are thebest on the fargin planet, so it was only a matter of time before the figured out ventilators were actually killing patients...and why.
Which brings us back to hydroquiniwhatever it is. Works. We now know why. Works same way quinine pills worked on malaria way back when.
Yep, quinine is poison, so is foxglove you fucking emptypated appletom.
You know what i bet.....i bet that malaria medicine is cheap...like real cheap....thats what im betting. Oh there i go with another conspiracy.

The conspiracy, is the suppression of facts, and real solutions and a bkatant effort to sow fear. Fear that can be used to strip you of your God given rights as a citizen of the United States.

I get it, youve been duped, feels bad, makes you look like an idiot. Don't buy into it next time. There is a bigger plan at work here. I am sorry to tell you, its a conspiracy, a really big one, the sad thing is, those pulling it off are completely in the opo en about it. I guess that makes some of us the least hook shy fish in the water.
 
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Hmm.. just cause the mountains of patchouli are lightly infected does not mean things are the same everywhere else.

They arent the same. By the same token, we didnt have to shut the country down. We have hospitals laying off staff. There is something wrong with that picture. "Quarantine was too effective." Is a hell of a stretch, as to why hospitals dont have enough patients. The virus wasnt that bad to start with.

Dont worry though. They will eventually be offering a vaccine and a digital mark to prove one's commitment to the cause.
 
This threads run its course. Time to get back to the things that matter......meat and drink.

58 pages and all we know is....

Everyone agrees Corona Virus is a real thing and people are dying.

Some think it's the worst thing since 1918 and we are on the edge of mass death.

Some think it's a new viral infection and it will have death rates exceeding flu until we develope a herd immunity and it becomes a new flu.

We all agree it is very dangerous to those with other morbidities.

We all agree healthy get it and can die but some 99% have no issue taking it down.

We all agree that for a health care worker stretched to the limits of human capacity @phlegethon spends a shit ton of time on a gun site trying to convince us he is Dr Fauci. I believe you are Dr Fauci......it's not a complement.

We all agree @ Bigfatcock should be banging some of these unemployed bust enhancement nurses. That fucking clapping from your porch shit is fuckng lame.

Go drink, eat meat, live your life.
 
We all agree for a health care worker stretched to the lim Tus of human capacity @phlegethon spends a shit ton of time on a gun site trying to convince us he is Dr Fauci.
I'm not stretched to any limits, nor have I said otherwise. I've been in the cardiac ICU for two weeks. We aren't doing elective cases so it is actually pretty slow.
 
My my....
Looks like the players here are the same, but singing a different tune now.
Shouting some of us down, telling us we didnt love our momma....tsk, tsk.

What happened to all you doctors, that had this figured for the Black Death.

Since my littlis vacation, I have more personal knowledge and eye witness accounts of this actual virus.

None of this crap going on in our country is about a virus.
The virus is a nothingburger, and for you folks that dont "habla" that doesn't mean i said the virus doesn't exist. It also diesn't mean the virus doesn't kill people. It is a nothingburger, because it isnt any more dangerous to the general population, than Influenza.
good to see some folks are awake
 
This threads run its course. Time to get back to the things that matter......meat and drink.

58 pages and all we know is....

Everyone agrees Corona Virus is a real thing and people are dying.

Some think it's the worst thing since 1918 and we are on the edge of mass death.

Some think it's a new viral infection and it will have death rates exceeding flu until we develope a herd immunity and it becomes a new flu.

We all agree it is very dangerous to those with other morbidities.

We all agree healthy get it and can die but some 99% have no issue taking it down.

We all agree that for a health care worker stretched to the limits of human capacity @phlegethon spends a shit ton of time on a gun site trying to convince us he is Dr Fauci. I believe you are Dr Fauci......it's not a complement.

We all agree @ Bigfatcock should be banging some of these unemployed bust enhancement nurses. That fucking clapping from your porch shit is fuckng lame.

Go drink, eat meat, live your life.

Locker down boys!
That is all that needs further review here.
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I'm not stretched to any limits, nor have I said otherwise. I've been in the cardiac ICU for two weeks. We aren't doing elective cases so it is actually pretty slow.

That right there says it all........

So I wonder who would be getting cardiac care but now suffers because of "Baloney Virus"?

Or are you always slow?
 
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