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The war in Ukraine and Donbas

I'm suspecting all ya'll are basically guessing and conjecturing depending on what yer favorite and trusted fake news source/synthetic media sources are purveying that tickles yer POV and Understanding.
Your projecting like your black friends who you said before wont buy a gun to protect themselves/family.

Why won’t they buy a gun you stated? Because MSM says gun people are racist so no guns for me or my family…OK.
 
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Didn’t that one guy that stole all the tanks with tractor do everything you listed?


This was my favorite.. He must've been using 3-1/2" magnum #6 shot.



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  • Valeriy Fedorovych allegedly shot down Russian Su-34 jet flying over Chernihiv
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">⚠️⚠️ First documented losses of Leopard 2 in Ukraine .<br><br>Destroyed German-made Leopard 2 tanks abandoned by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Zaporozhye direction of the front.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ukraine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#Ukraine</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UkraineWar?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#UkraineWar</a> <a href="https://t.co/x1mR0sE8A6">pic.twitter.com/x1mR0sE8A6</a></p>&mdash; GeoInsider (@InsiderGeo) <a href="">June 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
ARTY is one of the best ways to shape the battlefield and set favorable conditions for maneuver forces.
Yes, and blowing that dam was an excellent way to stifle any manuver warfare, which does not suit Ukraine, they want the Russians moving no further. But at the cost of Ukraines own civilian population. So the war of attrition just goes and goes. Fucking terrible.
 
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Yes, and blowing that dam was an excellent way to stifle any manuver warfare, which does not suit Ukraine, they want the Russians moving no further. But at the cost of Ukraines own civilian population. So the war of attrition just goes and goes. Fucking terrible.
the hohols flooded everything to drive the russians out of their MLR.
 
Maybe it could all have turned out differently if they didn't kick Darth Vader of the Ukrainian ballot box in 2014

Meanwhile is anyone shocked that Joe got millions in bribes and FBI swept it under the rug👿

Revealed: Bombshell FBI Document Alleges $5 Million Bribe Paid To Joe Biden By Burisma Exec​


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Offensive probing actions are definitely happening in scale unseen till now

Lots of pileups where vehicles bunch up and are lost en masse to mines or artillery
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Layered defensive lines in considerable depth.

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Looks like someone was talking a full spectrum tan on top of IRIS-T radar system truckcab ,
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I just found this commentary, which I also found to be quite informative:


Here is another both very interesting and very educational video, with a good amount of military and economics related stuff:
 
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There goes a few of the Bradley IFVs.

6x of grand total of 71 Leopard 2 and 13 of 86 Bradleys supplied, lost in the first probing attack without even getting to LOC

Started with two , then counted 6 , at least two are most modern A6 variants of which Ukraine only got 18
And then there is shit load of other armor that no one is even counting.

 
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6x of grand total of 71 Leopard 2 and 13 of 86 Bradleys supplied, lost in the first probing attack without even getting to LOC

Started with two , then counted 6 , at least two are most modern A6 variants of which Ukraine only got 18
And then there is shit load of other armor that no one is even counting.


brave men dying for pedophiles and war mongering profiteers.
 
Yes, and blowing that dam was an excellent way to stifle any manuver warfare, which does not suit Ukraine, they want the Russians moving no further. But at the cost of Ukraines own civilian population. So the war of attrition just goes and goes. Fucking terrible.
If Russia’s dam tactic worked the Ukrainian’s maneuver corridors just got reduced and Russia will not have to deploy as many assets to that area nor will they be fixed there.
 
I have no experience in such things, but it appears anything mechanized on the Uke's side rapidly becomes EASY target practice and extremely expensive scrap metal. Low cost drones/UAV's, high cost armor gone.

Am I missing something in the grand scheme? Combination of training <lack thereof> and high vulnerability?
 
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brave men dying for pedophiles and war mongering profiteers.
Honestly, that could very well be the goal of this horrible waste of life- The pedos and devil worshipping homos at the top want to kill off as many masculine/patriotic types as possible.. on both sides. So the only ones left will be women, elderly, and young kids, who will be much easier to control and won't resist whatever the plans are of the small hat mafia and global elites.
 
Looks brand new, not battle worn. Lapua brass... redding dies, carbon fiber tripods, pine trees <?>, doing load development at the front? Methinks not.

Useless info link...

 
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Any clue what the exact model is? Looks like the Longstrike.


Lobaev is actually pretty legit from what I hear. They make their own in-house single point cut rifled barrels. Setting up a cut rifling operation from scratch is no mean feat with a very steep learning curve.
 
Looks brand new, not battle worn. Lapua brass... redding dies, carbon fiber tripods, pine trees <?>, doing load development at the front? Methinks not.
They are brand new ,Its stuff is donated by the manufacturer and crowdfunding campaigns to the units, on a training camp prior to deployment to the front lines, Lobaev rifles are being used but as they are generally western caliber, feed reloaded ammo

Google translate of one of these projects;
''Lobaev Arms sent six .338 LM Retribution sniper rifles to the NMD zone.

In the world of precision shooting, these rifles are a surgical tool. Of course, trusting such a complex and expensive weapon to an untrained fighter is like cracking nuts with a microscope. Therefore, along with rifles, gunsmiths were sent to war and shooters.

Lobaev, together with partners, organized special courses for the training of operators of their rifles - snipers. We bought uniforms, equipment, body armor for them and drove them through their paces at training grounds and shooting ranges, not forgetting about theory. As a result, six snipers left for the front with high-precision weapons, which they were specially trained to handle.

The experience of the NWO has proved that the front loves ready-made solutions. It’s not enough just to send some expensive gadget to the front end. Sometimes thermal imagers, sophisticated surveillance devices, communications equipment, and even quadrocopters, which are always in short supply, gather dust in the supply rooms, because no one on the spot knows how to use this stuff. Therefore, for each "gift" it is necessary to prepare a specialist.

We now need experienced snipers with long-range weapons like air. The enemy is trying to advance along a wide front in open areas and throwing Western equipment into battle. Shooters with high-precision rifles are assigned the task of not only destroying manpower but also disabling surveillance devices on vehicles. An infantryman with SVD, who was taught to shoot by his beloved sergeant, will be able to do this, perhaps by accident.''


Of course, propaganda reel is never far in war:

''92-year-old veteran of the Great Patriotic War Anna Fedina decided to spend all her savings (700,000 rubles,= cca 8500$) on the manufacture of a sniper rifle for the best sniper of the NVO.

At the same time, the rifle manufacturer Lobaev Arms did not take the money, but made the rifle.''



"To the Defender of Russia from the WWII veteran A.K. Fedina"
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Any clue what the exact model is? Looks like the Longstrike.


Lobaev is actually pretty legit from what I hear. They make their own in-house single point cut rifled barrels. Setting up a cut rifling operation from scratch is no mean feat with a very steep learning curve.
Lobaev learned the trade with US gunsmith and BR hall of fame shooter Speedy Gonzalez , before first making rifles in UAE and then in Russia

There are different models in the picts
The 338Retribuition seems to be a derivative of TSVL-8

DXL-5 Devastator rifles (in the background, in the foreground - the captured Barrett) are located in the hottest sector of the front - the Zaporozhye
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Honestly, that could very well be the goal of this horrible waste of life- The pedos and devil worshipping homos at the top want to kill off as many masculine/patriotic types as possible.. on both sides. So the only ones left will be women, elderly, and young kids, who will be much easier to control and won't resist whatever the plans are of the small hat mafia and global elites.
white christian men are being slaughtered on both sides,
the democrats' perfect war.
 
The family of the men fighting know absolutely jack fucking shit of the goings on in a war. Your entire statement is nothing more than asswipe.
But you got it all figured out, right? I know people In Theatre whose opinion and perspective is reasonable to me. You got Jack Shit but opinion but ya know that the people I know don't know shit about what is happening right outside their window or to their kids?

I'll go back to lurking on this. Ya'll are clueless...oooh Wait! Run on over the Breitbart or The Gateway Pundit and get the real story. I'll stick to talking to people with skin in the game.

Fuck off.

VooDoo
 
I have this friend I have known over 12 years. He grew up in the GDR and when the Soviet Union collapsed he kept track of several friends and army buddies that ended up in Russia and Ukraine. They correspond at regular intervals as do my GDR buddy and I.

My former GDR buddy (now a German) and his buddies hope ya'll are entertained with the death of their kids and the destruction of Russia and Ukraine. Quite entertaining, No?

VooDoo
this is exactly why we shouldn't be spending billions of dollars we don't even have to facilitate the slaughter of white christian men.
entertaining?
perhaps the more that people are made aware of the death of brave men on behalf of pedophiles, profiteering warmongers and corrupt politicians, the better. hopefully enough will raise their voices to stop this bloodshed.
 
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What sort of Ukrainian battle tactics is this? I've not seen it before. Well... Heaven's Gate did something similar but it wasn't in battle.
Saw it all the time at the NTC (National Training Center) - don't get in the middle of the flashing lights (MILES simulators). Must have US trainers.
 
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What sort of Ukrainian battle tactics is this? I've not seen it before. Well... Heaven's Gate did something similar but it wasn't in battle.
maybe they thought the carcasses would mask their position vs being out in the open against the treeline?
i saw some thermal imagry that looked like a bradley shooting a tow just before it got hit.
 
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Lobaev sniper rifles with reloading gear somewhere in Donbass

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Considering all the donations going missing in Ukraine I would roll laughing if we saw one of those Chargemasters laid out amongst bails of coke and fentynl in one of those police busts pictures from Mexico.

Jokes aside, you know those guys are getting some A+ training from some three letter agency.
 
Thats an evolution of your anvil shooting tradition :) :).
Seriously though i’m stupefied that there are so many Ukie idiots with such low self preservation instinct and such hate (or both) for Russians to willingly sacrifice themselves for globohomos.
 
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What sort of Ukrainian battle tactics is this? I've not seen it before. Well... Heaven's Gate did something similar but it wasn't in battle.
Have you seen the movie The World According to Garp?
Robin Williams is looking at a house to buy. A small airplane crashes into it as he's standing there. He looks at the reality agent and says I'll take it! He tells the agent. What's the odds of that ever happening again. That must be the mindset of the clowns that just drove into a kill zone.
 
Thats an evolution of your anvil shooting tradition :) :).
Seriously though i’m stupefied that there are so many Ukie idiots with such low self preservation instinct and such hate (or both) for Russians to willingly sacrifice themselves for globohomos.

Don't worry, the moment the "GloboHomos" as you call them decide it's time to use the American military to further their goals, most of the "good folks" will break out into a frenzy of jingoism as they welcome the glorious lies and proudly march out to kill their fellow humans and die for the benefit of the Global Elite. While of course wanting to beat up, shame, and do bad things to anyone saying No or who refuses to have themselves or their children enslaved to die for the power and wealth of the Global Elites.

It's happened every single time and will happen again.
 
hopefully enough will raise their voices to stop this bloodshed.
Russia actually sued for peace earlier on. Not with Ukraine, but with us- the United States. Of course our establishment gave the smart ass reply "we cannot give you peace because we aint the ones at war with you". On a surface level, smooth brains like steve will say "LOL how dumb is Russia! If they want peace they have to include Ukraine!". But Russia knows what time it is even if the smooth brains don't. If DC told Zelensky "Enough! We will keep giving you material and weapons support/aid for another 2 weeks while you negotiate a ceasefire in furtherance of a formal permanent treaty/peace deal and then you're cut off.." - this war would be over. Ukraine will keep fighting for as long as we're propping them up, and not a minute longer. But then as you say.. I reckon war is only a bad thing to be used as a last resort if its against little brown people, communists, etc. As long as its strong brave/patriotic white christians being fed into the meatgrinder, its a good thing and is a first resort, to be encouraged to last as long as possible.

Its also getting to be a very tired, dumb take to say "Haha wow Russia is much less impressive than we thought". Yes, early on in the war, Russia had some pretty serious mistakes and setbacks, tactical and logistical fuck-ups, etc. But ever since this past winter, they've learned and adapted accordingly to the modern battlefield much better than our proxy force has. Instead of stretching themselves too thin and taking a bunch of unnecessary losses like they did early on, they're now playing to their strengths- turning this whole deal into a slow grind attrition-via-artillery battle. The casualty ratio is now enormous, and Ukraine needs their men much more than Russia needs theirs. While Russia is using Wagner troops recruited from prison and keeping their more professional troops in reserve for the long haul.
 
Russia actually sued for peace earlier on. Not with Ukraine, but with us- the United States. Of course our establishment gave the smart ass reply "we cannot give you peace because we aint the ones at war with you". On a surface level, smooth brains like steve will say "LOL how dumb is Russia! If they want peace they have to include Ukraine!". But Russia knows what time it is even if the smooth brains don't. If DC told Zelensky "Enough! We will keep giving you material and weapons support/aid for another 2 weeks while you negotiate a ceasefire in furtherance of a formal permanent treaty/peace deal and then you're cut off.." - this war would be over. Ukraine will keep fighting for as long as we're propping them up, and not a minute longer. But then as you say.. I reckon war is only a bad thing to be used as a last resort if its against little brown people, communists, etc. As long as its strong brave/patriotic white christians being fed into the meatgrinder, its a good thing and is a first resort, to be encouraged to last as long as possible.

Its also getting to be a very tired, dumb take to say "Haha wow Russia is much less impressive than we thought". Yes, early on in the war, Russia had some pretty serious mistakes and setbacks, tactical and logistical fuck-ups, etc. But ever since this past winter, they've learned and adapted accordingly to the modern battlefield much better than our proxy force has. Instead of stretching themselves too thin and taking a bunch of unnecessary losses like they did early on, they're now playing to their strengths- turning this whole deal into a slow grind attrition-via-artillery battle. The casualty ratio is now enormous, and Ukraine needs their men much more than Russia needs theirs. While Russia is using Wagner troops recruited from prison and keeping their more professional troops in reserve for the long haul.
It’s funny when a “smooth brain “ gives lectures on others being a smooth brain.

You do not truly understand the destruction Putin has released on his own military. His own Country. Google Russian brain drain sometime, stooge.

Russia has lost thousands of tanks. Irreplaceable tanks. Photographic evidence records their losses.

Their best units were thrown into the fray early on and suffered crippling losses. These units are irreplaceable.

The idea, that well over a year into this war that Russia is holding back their best is beyond laughable. They have emptied their outposts. They have unmothballed obsolete equipment. Putin has been all in since day 1.

If Moldova or Georgia rise up to take back their land, Russia would be hard pressed to resist. Everything they got is in Ukraine. They are using older and older Soviet tech. They have cut artillery use more than in half due to shortages.

Nothing you tout is based in reality.

Poland is rapidly modernizing their army. Sweden and Finland rapidly pushed to join NATO.

These things don’t happen unless Russia is the bad guy.

If US abandoned Ukraine, this would not stop the war. This would equal WWIII as Poland and the Baltic states would take this as a red line being crossed.

The blind Putin cock gobbling in this thread is thoroughly entertaining.
 
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they don't care that ulraine is corrupt
they don't care that they murdered thousands that wanted out of this corrupt regime
they don't care that pedo joe and his pedo crackhead son got millions
they don't care that ukraine helped dems screw trump over
they don't care that hundreds of thousands of ukrainians are dead or wounded.
they don't care that millions are now homeless refugees.

care? they were part of all of it.

here is what they do care about.

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Joined here have you? I guess someone discovered these threads need "balanced" view and here comes the "village idiot" to push official narrative.
Pathetic really but hey hope dies last i guess. Keep on hoping (to make us see) and keep on hoping (to make Russia disappear). Reality will bite you soon enough.
 
It’s funny when a “smooth brain “ gives lectures on others being a smooth brain.

You do not truly understand the destruction Putin has released on his own military. His own Country. Google Russian brain drain sometime, stooge.

Russia has lost thousands of tanks. Irreplaceable tanks. Photographic evidence records their losses.

Their best units were thrown into the fray early on and suffered crippling losses. These units are irreplaceable.

The idea, that well over a year into this war that Russia is holding back their best is beyond laughable. They have emptied their outposts. They have unmothballed obsolete equipment. Putin has been all in since day 1.

If Moldova or Georgia rise up to take back their land, Russia would be hard pressed to resist. Everything they got is in Ukraine. They are using older and older Soviet tech. They have cut artillery use more than in half due to shortages.

Nothing you tout is based in reality.

Poland is rapidly modernizing their army. Sweden and Finland rapidly pushed to join NATO.

These things don’t happen unless Russia is the bad guy.

If US abandoned Ukraine, this would not stop the war. This would equal WWIII as Poland and the Baltic states would take this as a red line being crossed.

The blind Putin cock gobbling in this thread is thoroughly entertaining.
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