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Maggie’s They will come for your bolt action rifle next

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Not sure if this is the correct forum. Just wanted to share this:
Unfortunately this post is not an exaggeration! I can actually picture them telling everyone that the rifles can be used to shoot down planes.
 
After the parkland shooting a local radio host actually said "an ar 15 is ridiculous for hunting because it would annihilite a deer to the point you couldn't even eat it".
My guess is most people who were listening believe that to be true.
 
It will begin with buzz words or phrases to denigrate firearms such as:

Military sniper type rifle
Extreme long range rifles
Capable of shooting through a car door or other things
Assassin's tool
Far more powerful than is necessary for target shooting
Too destructive
Founding fathers didn't envision personal firearms this powerful
causes horrific wounds
more powerful than is necessary for reasonable hunting
designed for military purposes

etc, etc, etc. Logic be damned, it is all about feelings and creating fear and distrust.
I fully expect anti-gun people to denigrate or vilify firearms one type by one type until there are none left. By picking one firearm type at a time, they divide and conquer the pro-gun people who may not have whatever type of firearms is currently being attacked. Pro gun people will think "I don't have that type of firearm, so I don't have to worry about anything." To which I say, "Give them time, eventually, they will get around to your preferred firearm type and by then there will be no one left who is interested in helping you."

This same idea of "it doesn't apply to me" was said quite well before:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Don't think they won't get around to your type of firearm.
 
We are getting a nice view to how it goes down by watching NZ where the people are a bit more sheeple than most.
First they used a "public outrage" to do an end run and get rid of all "assault rifles" then the went after all semi autos and just now they are pushing to ban any bolt actions that look "too military" or have features they don't like even if cosmetic.

Of course the people over there are such brainwashed sheep the stupid hunters actually are saying yes because it's wrong if someone puts decals or useless plastic cosmetic bits on their bolt gun to make it a bit more dress up looking.
 
I have this theory that the reason the Democrats want to ban guns is because most of the shootings, you know the day to day ones that occur in places like Chicago where there are frequently 3,000 or more a year and a 1,000 deaths, not the mass shootings that the media harps about, involve populations that comprise a large majority of The Democratic Party. I mean if you do the math, you will see that a large majority of the perpetrators and the victims are from groups that historically have voted Democrat. And so the Dems want to ban guns because shootings are decreasing their constituency. Many think it is due to a socialist drive to disarm the public to gain physical superiority. It may be a combination of the two. But both the Reps and Dems are not without their problems. It is one of the reasons I have started to vote 3rd party whenever I can.
 
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NASCAR has recently rejected ads depicting "sniper rifles".
I'm not liking this because I agree with nascar, I'm liking because people need to look at things such as nascar, started because some fellers were running moonshine are now suggesting that legal weapons are wrong to be in their advertising program
 
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I have this theory that the reason the Democrats want to ban guns is because most of the shootings, you know the day to day ones that occur in places like Chicago where there are frequently 3,000 or more a year and a 1,000 deaths, not the mass shootings that the media harps about, involve populations that comprise a large majority of The Democratic Party. I mean if you do the math, you will see that a large majority of the perpetrators and the victims are from groups that historically have voted Democrat. And so the Dems want to ban guns because shootings are decreasing their constituency. Many think it is due to a socialist drive to disarm the public to gain physical superiority. It may be a combination of the two. But both the Reps and Dems are not without their problems.

I’m not buying it.
I don’t believe it’s about losing voters.
The Democraps also work to make sure that their future constituents are aborted as often as possible.
 
"Assault weapons ban" is just a politically palatable buzzword that will eventually come to mean "all guns ban". We are fighting a political battle the likes of which we have never seen.

I find myself trying to decide what I should stockpile to ensure I'm able to enjoy my hobby and lifestyle for the rest of my life. Long barrel life 308 is starting to sound appealing.
 
"Assault weapons ban" is just a politically palatable buzzword that will eventually come to mean "all guns ban". We are fighting a political battle the likes of which we have never seen.

I find myself trying to decide what I should stockpile to ensure I'm able to enjoy my hobby and lifestyle for the rest of my life. Long barrel life 308 is starting to sound appealing.
I think that I have too many different calibers to support and stockpile ammo for to ensure my ability to shoot whatever I want for the rest of my life....but I’m gonna try anyway!
 
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I think that I have too many different calibers to support and stockpile ammo for to ensure my ability to shoot whatever I want for the rest of my life....but I’m gonna try anyway!
This is the same problem I have, but I'm trying to standardize as much as possible. Powder, primers, everything.
 
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What gun today isn't used by the military- a break-action shotgun is just a different version of a grenade launcher to them... Handguns, semi and auto shotguns and bolt action rifles as mentioned here are all 'weapons of war'.
 
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I’m not buying it.
I don’t believe it’s about losing voters.
The Democraps also work to make sure that their future constituents are aborted as often as possible.
Good point. But I think that is more about keeping the female voter. But good point.
 
Its not even about guns, it is about destroying your way of life, and you along with it unless you are amenable to changing. It starts with one type of weapons, historically the flavor of the day has been handguns and now "assault weapons," but also remember the hysteria 20 years ago when the DC sniper was running around. No, the Left likes to strut around the idea of "compromise" (which it isn't at all because we get nothing in return-compromise would be reopening the machinegun registry in exchange for classifying bumpstocks as machineguns): "oh just give us your semiautos, you can keep everything else." Then they'll let it sink in a while and go for the next increment: "handguns account for most firearm deaths, you can keep your bolt and lever actions and shotguns." Then every other rifle will be made out to be a "sniper rifle," and we've all seen how destructive shotguns are in video games.

But we already know it doesn't stop there, they're already calling for your vehicle because it runs on fossil fuel. The power grid is so far away from being able to support replacement of ICE vehicles that transportation will be severely restricted. They're already using climate change to demonize livestock and agriculture.

Make no mistake, this is about more than guns, and anyone who doesn't see or admit it is either too stupid to see it or lying through their teeth. The information operation campaign waged by our media already has people clamoring to have their own rights stripped away. Look at red flag laws for example, not only do they want denial of 2A rights without due process through property seizure, they're targeting your right to face an accuser based on your exercise of your 1A.

Guns are just the current step on a road that ends either as a serf to a totalitarian regime, or at the edge of a lime filled trench.
 
If it's got wood on it then it's not "a threat" - weaker minds have been led by the media to realize that this is how it is.

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Quote of the day: "Assault" is an action, NOT an object"
My ruger Hawkeye long range is good then. The name will scare them, but when I tell them the stock is wood.... they’ll be at ease..

But what if they find out it’s taken down yotes at 974 yards?!?!

I guess I should invest in a 22LR
 
Its not even about guns, it is about destroying your way of life, and you along with it unless you are amenable to changing. It starts with one type of weapons, historically the flavor of the day has been handguns and now "assault weapons," but also remember the hysteria 20 years ago when the DC sniper was running around. No, the Left likes to strut around the idea of "compromise" (which it isn't at all because we get nothing in return-compromise would be reopening the machinegun registry in exchange for classifying bumpstocks as machineguns): "oh just give us your semiautos, you can keep everything else." Then they'll let it sink in a while and go for the next increment: "handguns account for most firearm deaths, you can keep your bolt and lever actions and shotguns." Then every other rifle will be made out to be a "sniper rifle," and we've all seen how destructive shotguns are in video games.

But we already know it doesn't stop there, they're already calling for your vehicle because it runs on fossil fuel. The power grid is so far away from being able to support replacement of ICE vehicles that transportation will be severely restricted. They're already using climate change to demonize livestock and agriculture.

Make no mistake, this is about more than guns, and anyone who doesn't see or admit it is either too stupid to see it or lying through their teeth. The information operation campaign waged by our media already has people clamoring to have their own rights stripped away. Look at red flag laws for example, not only do they want denial of 2A rights without due process through property seizure, they're targeting your right to face an accuser based on your exercise of your 1A.

Guns are just the current step on a road that ends either as a serf to a totalitarian regime, or at the edge of a lime filled trench.
They want to legislate healthier diets as well as a cost saving measure for when health care is socialized. Healthier citizens means fewer costs on a socialized system. But this is off topic.
 
Our form of government was supposed to be for the people and by the people through representation.
Now it’s not about that at all.

Above all else.....
They want CONTROL.
 
Good point. But I think that is more about keeping the female voter. But good point.

Eventually the stupid female voters get what's coming to them for their selfish stupidity in voting for government oppression.

Like in Germany where the female in charge of the country and the female police chiefs were busy suppressing and shutting down any information about the gangs of "friendly virtuous visitors" from the middle east roaming the streets in packs and raping hundreds of women....
Because well sorry but your right to not be raped is less important that the story that the Muslim "immigrants" are peace loving wonderful people.
 
Our form of government was supposed to be for the people and by the people through representation.
Now it’s not about that at all.

Above all else.....
They want CONTROL.
Now it is about party politics and the largest donors. The candidates could be freshman with a message but once they get to D.C. they are conditioned for the most part to vote in favor of the largest donors. To not do so would be divergent and result in party banishment and loss of support for the next election.
 
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My ruger Hawkeye long range is good then. The name will scare them, but when I tell them the stock is wood.... they’ll be at ease..

But what if they find out it’s taken down yotes at 974 yards?!?!

I guess I should invest in a 22LR
I think this is why some guys give their monster mud trucks and guns pet names like buffy and little birdy and so forth. Kind of hides their significance and makes them more palatable for the uninitiated. Or why do you call the biggest guy in the squad "tiny," that type of thing.
 
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Et tu Bubba...


After a third-party advertising vendor solicited ads for an official NASCAR program earlier this year, the vendor followed up with gun companies in August to inform them NASCAR had rejected advertisements that depicted "assault-style rifles/sniper rifles."

Emphasis mine. Never thought that NASCAR would fire the first shot on this one. Someone should start a movement that drivers pit after the start of the race and refuse to race. Even better would be if the front line of the race stopped short of the start line and abandoned their cars and walked off.
 
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Pathetic, what started as a bunch of outlaw moonshine runners turning into SJW.
 
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"Assault weapons ban" is just a politically palatable buzzword that will eventually come to mean "all guns ban". We are fighting a political battle the likes of which we have never seen.

"We are fighting a political battle the likes of which we have never seen." That's because we are fighting stupidity, the likes we have never seen. This country has gotten dumber each generation for about the last 40 years.

The term, "assault weapon" was invented to fool the stupid and gullible (which this country has lots of) into thinking guns with certain looks are bad. It was a genius plan that worked like a charm.
 
If you follow this gun control mindset to fruition, eventually the only way a utopia can be achieved is to get rid of the gun owner.
 
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If you follow this gun control mindset to fruition, eventually the only way a utopia can be achieved is to get rid of the gun owner.
I believe I did hear mention of nuking us....
 
The gun debate is a convenient diversion for an elected body that is protecting other special interests such as the manufacturers of bad food products and other cancer causing products the consumer regularly buys. The gun debate is graphic and visual, good for the ignorant who don't know how to read or don't care to, and it has a casualty figure, much like that which is used in a war. Also, it makes them look like they are doing something when in fact they can't balance the budget or reduce the deficit, either. Most states have a balanced budget amendment but not the federal government. It's a monster run amuck and the elected have created and are feeding the monster.
 
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Et tu Bubba...




Emphasis mine. Never thought that NASCAR would fire the first shot on this one. Someone should start a movement that drivers pit after the start of the race and refuse to race. Even better would be if the front line of the race stopped short of the start line and abandoned their cars and walked off.
Nascar might see it as a form of competition. Instead of guys going out to the range on Sunday or hunting during the season, Nascar would rather have them at home sitting in front of the tv eating food made with fructose and corn syrup and drinking beer fermented with corn syrup and buying the products Nascar sponsors. If a large organization is taking a stand like that when they don't have to, it is not because they "believe" in the cause, it is because there is money involved, a lot of money.
 
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We are getting a nice view to how it goes down by watching NZ where the people are a bit more sheeple than most.
First they used a "public outrage" to do an end run and get rid of all "assault rifles" then the went after all semi autos and just now they are pushing to ban any bolt actions that look "too military" or have features they don't like even if cosmetic.

Of course the people over there are such brainwashed sheep the stupid hunters actually are saying yes because it's wrong if someone puts decals or useless plastic cosmetic bits on their bolt gun to make it a bit more dress up looking.

I'm not quite sure where you are getting your information. It's not quite going down like that here.

Of the hundreds of thousands "prohibited weapons" they have recieved a grand total of 20k firearms and 75k parts. People seem to be cashing in all the old shit as the government are paying more than street value for them.

The confiscation is failing but you wont hear it anywhere else our media is calling it a success and printing bullshit news to back it up but then since the fuck wit aussie went mad they have been printing only what our red prime minister wants them to print. So dont believe everything/anything you read. The sheeple apparently have some balls and arent playing her little game.
 
I'm not quite sure where you are getting your information. It's not quite going down like that here.

Of the hundreds of thousands "prohibited weapons" they have recieved a grand total of 20k firearms and 75k parts. People seem to be cashing in all the old shit as the government are paying more than street value for them.

The confiscation is failing but you wont hear it anywhere else our media is calling it a success and printing bullshit news to back it up but then since the fuck wit aussie went mad they have been printing only what our red prime minister wants them to print. So dont believe everything/anything you read. The sheeple apparently have some balls and arent playing her little game.
Very glad to hear that. Our media is corrupt and frequently lies to the people of our country in the pursuit of the leftist agenda. They don’t even pretend to tell the truth.
 
I have this theory that the reason the Democrats want to ban guns is because most of the shootings, you know the day to day ones that occur in places like Chicago where there are frequently 3,000 or more a year and a 1,000 deaths, not the mass shootings that the media harps about, involve populations that comprise a large majority of The Democratic Party. I mean if you do the math, you will see that a large majority of the perpetrators and the victims are from groups that historically have voted Democrat. And so the Dems want to ban guns because shootings are decreasing their constituency. Many think it is due to a socialist drive to disarm the public to gain physical superiority. It may be a combination of the two. But both the Reps and Dems are not without their problems. It is one of the reasons I have started to vote 3rd party whenever I can.
Problems with going third party.
 
Problems with going third party.
Yeah, I get it. But I don't vote against what I am afraid of, as is the situation described in the video. I vote for what I believe in. The two major parties want you to think there is a choice, but there really isn't a choice, there is only the illusion of choice and that's why things don't change here in The US. I'm sure you have heard that there is often very little distinction between the two final candidates (we are not only talking about the Presidential election and candidates have even switched parties (really?!) just to make sure they get elected. Take Reagan for example, at first he was a Democrat. Now how can that be. The two ideologies are supposedly diametrically opposed). Some believe there is collusion between the two major parties, which I believe effectively shuts out any others.

Don't vote for what you fear the other candidate will do. That's how the two parties want it. Vote for what you believe in. How else are you going to get a candidate that believes in what you want? This country suffers from an elected body that rules by fear. Since things don't change here much, why not make a change in the way you vote?

Also, again this post was supposed to be about libs taking away your bolt action rifles
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John F Kennedy was the last real Democrat. All the dems after him have been more socialist than anything else, starting with LBJ and his "great society" that created the welfare state.
 
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I have no doubts that "sniper rifles" will be a target at some point.

Then any calibers that are deemed "military calibers".

Then pistols that are for "combat"

The list will grow larger and more absurd.
 
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The anti-gun forces seek to divide and conquer. They hope that gun owners will think "that ban won't effect me because I don't have one of those firearms", and therefore let whatever ban is being pressed slide by. However, eventually, the anti-gun forces will get to whatever firearm you have by saying things like:

1. It is an assassin's weapon
2. It is a military weapon.
3. No hunter needs a cartridge that powerful.
4. That is a long distance sniper's rifle set up for assassinations.
5. No decent hunter needs more than one well placed shot for hunting.
6. The military uses those cartridges, so they are far too deadly to be on our streets.
7. No one needs that many rounds for self defense (when they decide a 5 shot revolver has too many rounds in it).
8. 30 rounds are too many, then 10 rounds will be too many, then 6 rounds will be too many..

Be assured, eventually, the anti-gun forces will get around to your firearm, your cartridge, or whatever you own. It wouldn't surprise me if they used the logic that the revolution was won with flintlock firearms, therefore flintlocks are military grade and proven deadly, so they shouldn't be allowed. Their goal IS disarming people. They DO want to take your guns. At least Beto was starting to be honest about it.
 
I've been predicting this for a few years.... and yep... they'll say, "Nobody needs a sniper rifle."

They'll also try to ban scopes, red dot sights, lasers, bipods, triggers, and anything else related to precision marksmanship.... errr... I mean snipers.
 
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