What are your tips and secrets for increasing the accuracy in an AR15?
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Start with telling us what you have.
Empty your pocket book
Match grade billeted upper and lower
Match grade icycle barrel 18"
JC Titan comp
Match trigger
Magpul stock and grip
JPS silent capture spring
Nickel Boron coated charging handle, bolt assembly group
Steiner tactical scope
Badger ordinance mount
Honestly I shoot sub MOA with 50% of ammo from good to bad to premium
I'm just wondering what others do to increase the accuracy in their AR15's... Other than trigger time
Match grade icycle barrel 18"
JC Titan comp
Match trigger
Magpul stock and grip
JPS silent capture spring
Nickel Boron coated charging handle, bolt assembly group
Steiner tactical scope
Badger ordinance mount
Honestly I shoot sub MOA with 50% of ammo from good to bad to premium
I'm just wondering what others do to increase the accuracy in their AR15's... Other than trigger time
In the spirit of VJJ, a tactical fleshlight.
If it is shooting sub MOA with good hand loads or FGMM/Fiochi match 77 gr bullets then really there may not be much more you can do. What exactly are you expecting? Most everything is going to come down to that barrel and your ammo. The bolt plays very little into the grand scheme of things as long as you have proper headspace. At a certain point you start chasing very tiny improvements that you will likely only see out of a rifle being shot in a rest, not very practical.
Reload if you dont. You could probably find a load more consistent than you're currently getting. Also read up on how to shoot precision with a an ar. Snipers hide online training is a good place to start.
Satern Barrel
Geissele trigger polished to shine
I have shot 3/4" groups with the right load from a rest using sand bags
Honestly my rifle is pretty spot on, but I posted this to see if anyone else had tips or tricks for increased accuracy.
Maybe I could learn something, or maybe someone new to the AR15 game could read this post.
I've invested years and a lot of money in the rifle, and honestly I would be ecstatic if I could break 1/2 MOA day in day out.
Geissele trigger polished to shine
I have shot 3/4" groups with the right load from a rest using sand bags
Honestly my rifle is pretty spot on, but I posted this to see if anyone else had tips or tricks for increased accuracy.
Maybe I could learn something, or maybe someone new to the AR15 game could read this post.
I've invested years and a lot of money in the rifle, and honestly I would be ecstatic if I could break 1/2 MOA day in day out.
Ah, Satern barrel you should be perfectly fine then. You can also put an adjustable gas block on there and turn down the gas a little to smooth it out if you have not already done so.
Really I would look at the ammo aspect of things once you have a good barrel, and have a decent trigger (which you do). What weight of bullet are you primarily shooting? Tweak a good load with some 77 gr bullets and let her rip. Should be able to get a little bit more consistency.
Really I would look at the ammo aspect of things once you have a good barrel, and have a decent trigger (which you do). What weight of bullet are you primarily shooting? Tweak a good load with some 77 gr bullets and let her rip. Should be able to get a little bit more consistency.
Sierra Match King 69
1 in 8 twist
1 in 8 twist
Try some different loads if you really want to see what the rifle will do. The most accurate I've gotten from an ar was with 50gr vmaxs and benchmark. That was a 7 twist. 68 hornadys I've gotten to shoot right around 1/2 and 75s the best I've had Is 3/4 to an inch. Just depends on my purpose what I use. If I want to see tight groups I'll go to the 50s.
all these "match" this and that is all mumbo jumbo, get a quality barrel, and a quality trigger and be done. Work a good 77gr SMK load. Then learn how to shoot it, I'm not saying you dont know how to shoot, I'm saying shooting an AR well is a different animal than shooting a pistol well, or bolt gun well. I personnaly wouldnt even put an optic on the fucker till your comfortable shooting it from 100-600 with irons. Spend the money you saved not buying all that other "match" garbage on a tactical tenga and liberator wedge.
To the Team Douchenozzle,
Read the posts above in the thread, before responding.
Like stated previously I can squeeze 3/4" groups out of this rifle with the right load.
AND
In a previous post in this thread it was said "How do you improve the accuracy of your AR`5 rifle, not including trigger time." Which with this particular AR I've had 4 years. Personally I would like to get the rifle to shoot half MOA.
But, the reason I started this thread was for a fun educational purpose not just for a personal reason and to get ridiculed by someone who doesn't even know me.
Comments like "I wouldn't put optics on it until you know how to shoot it with irons out to 600," is ridiculous when someone is asking how to make their tool preform better. That would be like someone saying how do you get your motorcycle to have more torque and some jack wagon telling them that before they worry about that they need to learn how to drive a stick shift car...
DERP
Further more I personally have been shooting irons for years now being that I am active duty and achieve Expert every time I qualify. Plus coming across as your way is right, everyone's else way is wrong, and you don't have to listen or read what others have to say is very indicative of a dirty commie. And, I cannot stand people who are part of this new age progressive socialist movement who jerk off to naked images of Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein touching each other.
Leave stupid posts out of my threads
V/R
Bronx
PS.
Thanks for the advice on the 77's I'll try them out and let you know how it goes.
Hope my sarcasm wasn't too thick for you
I know everyone is saying 77smk's, but don't overlook the 75 hornadys over about 24gr of varget. Very accurate out of my jp barrel. Also, you may want to do just a little brass prep, like true your primer pockets, and deburr your flash holes. Sometimes this is hard to justify on an ar that is going to sling brass everywhere. I have a batch of good brass (not military recycle) that is prepped, that I will only use in matches, or at a range where I can pick it up. It's a pain, but sometimes we have to do those little pain in the butt things to go from .75" to .5". Good luck with your project.
Excellent advice!!!
I prefer to do it in this fashion:
Buy the best match grade SS barrel you can find.
Fit a proof round tested, MP-inspected bolt at 1.4646" headspace. Requires headspace gauges in 0.001" increments and a LOT of bolts from which to choose.
Polish and contour your feed ramps. But, not too much.
Use a rifle length recoil system or a Vltor A5 recoil system.
Use a Geissele SSA-E or NM trigger.
Use a Young MFG N/M bolt carrier.
A quality optic in a solid mount providing the right eye relief and height above the comb is a given.
Muzzle devices from one well-known suppressor company will totally destroy any barrel's accuracy potential. Get a Surefire to be safe.
If you're not shooting sub-MOA capable ammo, you won't see sub-MOA groups. My top choices are ASYM 77 SMK, BH 77 SMK, BH VMAX, and Norma 77 SMK.
Here is my .02 cents worth.
1. Select a good barrel and have a competent smith install it properly.
2. get a good trigger. Chip McCormick, Geissele, KAC Wilson etc..
3. Factory match ammo is very good but a load properly developed to your rifle.
4. a good pistol grip will help. ERGO, Sierra Precision etc...
5. Trigger time. Nothing replaces getting out and shooting YOUR rifle.
6. get a good trigger. Chip McCormick, Geissele, KAC Wilson etc..
1. Select a good barrel and have a competent smith install it properly.
2. get a good trigger. Chip McCormick, Geissele, KAC Wilson etc..
3. Factory match ammo is very good but a load properly developed to your rifle.
4. a good pistol grip will help. ERGO, Sierra Precision etc...
5. Trigger time. Nothing replaces getting out and shooting YOUR rifle.
6. get a good trigger. Chip McCormick, Geissele, KAC Wilson etc..
Assuming a Wylde chamber 24.5gr RE15 behind 69gr SMKs loaded to 2.28" using good brass prep practices. If it will not shoot that load into 1/2" there is something wrong with the rifle or shooter. I've been using that as an accuracy test load since the early 90s. Use proper trigger follow through (hold it to the rear until bullet hits the target if unsure).
Did the barrel extension fit tight in the bore of the receiver? If not I would square the front of the receiver and bed the extension with blue loctite to make the connection more rigid. Squaring the receiver makes sure all bolt lugs carry the same thrust. Some times a symmetrical flash hider(3-4 grooves equally spaced around it) will give better accuracy. If you reload try to size the brass .003-.004" shorter than the chamber headspace length. The scope reticle can make a difference to the shooter. I have an old Mk 4 with the TMR in it. The crosshairs don't cover the POA. Make sure the barrel isn't over -gassed.
Hint?
Pick a bullet and use the OCW method to fine tune your load.
OFG
OFG
I read this on accurateshooter.com and it may of been written by a manufacturer but it said to make sure your gas tube is not binding on the receiver or gas key.
Not sure how much difference it can make but it sounds like good advice to me.
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2011/10/what-makes-an-ar-accurate-whitley-offers-answers/
Not sure how much difference it can make but it sounds like good advice to me.
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2011/10/what-makes-an-ar-accurate-whitley-offers-answers/
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I actually have my AR in the shop getting stripped of the DuraCoat and redone with the bake on Cerekote.
I'm real happy I posted this thread, so much good knowledge dropped by everyone. Going to have my gunsmith read the thread while he has the rifle and address the tips everyone left.
I'm real happy I posted this thread, so much good knowledge dropped by everyone. Going to have my gunsmith read the thread while he has the rifle and address the tips everyone left.
Sorry, but no.
When in doubt if a muzzle device is causing issues, just pull it off and shoot some groups with the plain muzzle. Or add a Vortex, if you want to protect the threads, reduce flash, etc. They shoot fine, don't cost too much, and are excellent flash suppressors.
Why even say it if your not going to say who it is. Kinda doing people a dis service of not informing them that a vendors brakes suck.
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Here's my precision AR.
Put your money into a quality barrel and trigger. Mine shoots sub .5" groups at 100yds with Norma 77gr SMK and under .75" with most other ammo.
AeroPrecision Forged Upper/Lower
WOA 16" SS Match 1:7 barrel
Syrac Ordnance Gen II Adjustable Gas Block
TSD Kompressor
Young Chrome BCG
Timney AR Competition 3lb trigger
KNS Pins
BAD Ambi Safety
BCM CH
Magpul UBR
JP Buffer Spring
Troy Alpha Rail
Both optics in a ADM AD-Recon QD mounts for short or long range
Put your money into a quality barrel and trigger. Mine shoots sub .5" groups at 100yds with Norma 77gr SMK and under .75" with most other ammo.
AeroPrecision Forged Upper/Lower
WOA 16" SS Match 1:7 barrel
Syrac Ordnance Gen II Adjustable Gas Block
TSD Kompressor
Young Chrome BCG
Timney AR Competition 3lb trigger
KNS Pins
BAD Ambi Safety
BCM CH
Magpul UBR
JP Buffer Spring
Troy Alpha Rail
Both optics in a ADM AD-Recon QD mounts for short or long range
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Your opinion.
And forget about muzzle brakes, compensators, or suppressors. What you need is a barrel harmonics stabilizer for maximum accuracy:
"disservice"
But anyway, it is a pretty douche thing to make an accusation and not have the balls to bring it to light. After all, you're such a team player that you're going to let fellow shooters lose money to this "vendor" because you're not going to say anything.
This thread belongs on AR15
There has been a lot of controversy about competitors in tactical matches using pillows for a rear rest. China has come out with an adjustable rear mono-pod that makes tactical pillows and Accu-shot mono-pods obsolete. This is fully adjustable and you can enjoy it while driving to a match:
Of course every tactical operator needs a signature hoodie. I recommend this one:
Already have that, it's your mom's model.Carry this as your side arm:
Hard to believe it's still that tight. even after your big head came out of that gap
I have a 1 in 8 twistHere's my precision AR.
Put your money into a quality barrel and trigger. Mine shoots sub .5" groups at 100yds with Norma 77gr SMK and under .75" with most other ammo.
AeroPrecision Forged Upper/Lower
WOA 16" SS Match 1:7 barrel
Syrac Ordnance Gen II Adjustable Gas Block
TSD Kompressor
Young Chrome BCG
Timney AR Competition 3lb trigger
KNS Pins
BAD Ambi Safety
BCM CH
Magpul UBR
JP Buffer Spring
Troy Alpha Rail
Both optics in a ADM AD-Recon QD mounts for short or long range
I get 3/4" groups with 69 Sierra match king.
I've tried 75 grain shot just over 1".
Haven't tried 77
My end game is prairie dogs between 300 and 700 yards.
My mom's dead asshole!
Makes it a collector's item then.
Lmfao!
Breaking out the popcorn!
Nicholas, you should play nice and not get personal. It's all just jokes. BTW, the "collector's item" was funny.
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and so it begins.....lol
Cool man. Cheers.
Nicholas,
You're a fucking retard! where to begin.....well for starters my post was in no way offensive to you so if you took it as such you truly are a mouthbreather. I even said I'm not saying you dont know how to shoot. I read everything you had to say, which is frankly all over the place so I'd wager schizophrenia is your friend. You say how awsome you are and how well your rifle shoots, and how you've been wielding it with magical powers for 4 years, and yet.......you come here asking how to make it more accurate? If your video blazing away at 70 yards is a testament to your mad skills than wow.....just wow!
"Comments like "I wouldn't put optics on it until you know how to shoot it with irons out to 600," is ridiculous when someone is asking how to make their tool preform better. That would be like someone saying how do you get your motorcycle to have more torque and some jack wagon telling them that before they worry about that they need to learn how to drive a stick shift car..." Actually, if you pulled your head out of your ass, it is not, it is solid advice considering you already said "Honestly I shoot sub MOA with 50% of ammo from good to bad to premium"(whatever the fuck that means). Remember here, your the one saying it shoots well, you shoot well, you just wanna know how to make it better. If you have a solid barrel, and a good trigger and a gun shooting "sub moa" the only thing left is master a more challenging equation, irons at 600, which will in turn improve your overall accuracy with your rifle. No one here gives two flying bat fucks about you being some AirForce fag that can qualify at what....300 meters?
"But, the reason I started this thread was for a fun educational purpose not just for a personal reason and to get ridiculed by someone who doesn't even know me."
I didnt ridicule you, if you think so you've got the thinnest skin on the planet. I may not know you personnally but I know exactly who you are, we see you here WAY too often anymore. You're an arrogant mall ninja that thinks he knows more than he does and takes advice like people are attacking you, after you asked for the advice.
"Plus coming across as your way is right, everyone's else way is wrong, and you don't have to listen or read what others have to say is very indicative of a dirty commie. And, I cannot stand people who are part of this new age progressive socialist movement who jerk off to naked images of Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein touching each other. "
If you had reading comprehension skills you'd know I didnt say anything of the sort that my way is right and others is wrong. As for the second sentence, wtf are you even talking about? This is funny considering you come from the land of the hipster, just because the Air Force moved you elsewhere doesnt make it less so.
"Leave stupid posts out of my threads"
stop making fucktarded threads
P.S.
I hope my cock wasnt too thick for your mom
You're a fucking retard! where to begin.....well for starters my post was in no way offensive to you so if you took it as such you truly are a mouthbreather. I even said I'm not saying you dont know how to shoot. I read everything you had to say, which is frankly all over the place so I'd wager schizophrenia is your friend. You say how awsome you are and how well your rifle shoots, and how you've been wielding it with magical powers for 4 years, and yet.......you come here asking how to make it more accurate? If your video blazing away at 70 yards is a testament to your mad skills than wow.....just wow!
"Comments like "I wouldn't put optics on it until you know how to shoot it with irons out to 600," is ridiculous when someone is asking how to make their tool preform better. That would be like someone saying how do you get your motorcycle to have more torque and some jack wagon telling them that before they worry about that they need to learn how to drive a stick shift car..." Actually, if you pulled your head out of your ass, it is not, it is solid advice considering you already said "Honestly I shoot sub MOA with 50% of ammo from good to bad to premium"(whatever the fuck that means). Remember here, your the one saying it shoots well, you shoot well, you just wanna know how to make it better. If you have a solid barrel, and a good trigger and a gun shooting "sub moa" the only thing left is master a more challenging equation, irons at 600, which will in turn improve your overall accuracy with your rifle. No one here gives two flying bat fucks about you being some AirForce fag that can qualify at what....300 meters?
"But, the reason I started this thread was for a fun educational purpose not just for a personal reason and to get ridiculed by someone who doesn't even know me."
I didnt ridicule you, if you think so you've got the thinnest skin on the planet. I may not know you personnally but I know exactly who you are, we see you here WAY too often anymore. You're an arrogant mall ninja that thinks he knows more than he does and takes advice like people are attacking you, after you asked for the advice.
"Plus coming across as your way is right, everyone's else way is wrong, and you don't have to listen or read what others have to say is very indicative of a dirty commie. And, I cannot stand people who are part of this new age progressive socialist movement who jerk off to naked images of Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein touching each other. "
If you had reading comprehension skills you'd know I didnt say anything of the sort that my way is right and others is wrong. As for the second sentence, wtf are you even talking about? This is funny considering you come from the land of the hipster, just because the Air Force moved you elsewhere doesnt make it less so.
"Leave stupid posts out of my threads"
stop making fucktarded threads
P.S.
I hope my cock wasnt too thick for your mom
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proven to squeeze out more accuracy
VJJ, I think your aim is a little low and right. Might want to adjust your aim, it might make you more accurate...
