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Top Taliban Commander Captured

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/world/asia/16intel.html

WASHINGTON — The Taliban’s top military commander was captured several days ago in Karachi, Pakistan, in a secret joint operation by Pakistani and American intelligence forces, according to American government officials.

The commander, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, is an Afghan described by American officials as the most significant Taliban figure to be detained since the American-led war in Afghanistan started more than eight years ago. He ranks second in influence only to Mullah Muhammad Omar, the Taliban’s founder and a close associate of Osama bin Laden before the Sept. 11 attacks.

Mullah Baradar has been in Pakistani custody for several days, with American and Pakistani intelligence officials both taking part in interrogations, according to the officials.

It was unclear whether he was talking, but the officials said his capture had provided a window into the Taliban and could lead to other senior officials. Most immediately, they hope he will provide the whereabouts of Mullah Omar, the one-eyed cleric who is the group’s spiritual leader.

Disclosure of Mullah Baradar’s capture came as American and Afghan forces were in the midst of a major offensive in southern Afghanistan.

His capture could cripple the Taliban’s military operations, at least in the short term, said Bruce O. Riedel, a former C.I.A. officer who last spring led the Obama administration’s Afghanistan and Pakistan policy review.

Details of the raid remain murky, but officials said that it had been carried out by Pakistan’s military spy agency, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, and that C.I.A. operatives had accompanied the Pakistanis.

The New York Times learned of the operation on Thursday, but delayed reporting it at the request of White House officials, who contended that making it public would end a hugely successful intelligence-gathering effort. The officials said that the group’s leaders had been unaware of Mullah Baradar’s capture and that if it became public they might cover their tracks and become more careful about communicating with each other.

The Times is publishing the news now because White House officials acknowledged that the capture of Mullah Baradar was becoming widely known in the region.

Several American government officials gave details about the raid on the condition that they not be named, because the operation was classified.

American officials believe that besides running the Taliban’s military operations, Mullah Baradar runs the group’s leadership council, often called the Quetta Shura because its leaders for years have been thought to be hiding near Quetta, the capital of Baluchistan Province in Pakistan.

The participation of Pakistan’s spy service could suggest a new level of cooperation from Pakistan’s leaders, who have been ambivalent about American efforts to crush the Taliban. Increasingly, the Americans say, senior leaders in Pakistan, including the chief of its army, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, have gradually come around to the view that they can no longer support the Taliban in Afghanistan — as they have quietly done for years — without endangering themselves. Indeed, American officials have speculated that Pakistani security officials could have picked up Mullah Baradar long ago.

The officials said that Pakistan was leading the interrogation of Mullah Baradar, but that Americans were also involved. The conditions of the questioning are unclear. In its first week in office, the Obama administration banned harsh interrogations like waterboarding by Americans, but the Pakistanis have long been known to subject prisoners to brutal questioning.

American intelligence officials believe that elements within Pakistan’s security services have covertly supported the Taliban with money and logistical help — largely out of a desire to retain some ally inside Afghanistan for the inevitable day when the Americans leave.

The ability of the Taliban’s top leaders to operate relatively freely inside Pakistan has for years been a source of friction between the ISI and the C.I.A. Americans have complained that they have given ISI operatives the precise locations of Taliban leaders, but that the Pakistanis usually refuse to act.

The Pakistanis have countered that the American intelligence was often outdated, or that faulty information had been fed to the United States by Afghanistan’s intelligence service.

For the moment it is unclear how the capture of Mullah Baradar will affect the overall direction of the Taliban, who have so far refused to disavow Al Qaeda and to accept the Afghan Constitution. American officials have hoped to win over some midlevel members of the group.

Mr. Riedel, the former C.I.A. official, said that he had not heard about Mullah Baradar’s capture before being contacted by The Times, but that the raid constituted a “sea change in Pakistani behavior.”

In recent weeks, American officials have said they have seen indications that the Pakistani military and spy services may finally have begun to distance themselves from the Taliban. One Obama administration official said Monday that the White House had “no reason to think that anybody was double-dealing at all” in aiding in the capture of Mullah Baradar.

A parade of American officials traveling to the Pakistani capital have made the case that the Afghan Taliban are now aligned with groups — like the Pakistani Taliban — that threaten the stability of the Pakistani government.

Mullah Baradar oversees the group’s operations across its primary area of activity in southern and western Afghanistan. While some of the insurgent groups active in Afghanistan receive only general guidance from their leaders, the Taliban are believed to be somewhat hierarchical, with lower-ranking field commanders often taking directions and orders from their leaders across the border.

In an attempt to improve the Taliban’s image both inside the country and abroad, Mullah Baradar last year helped issue a “code of conduct” for Taliban fighters. The handbook, small enough to be carried in the pocket of each Taliban foot soldier, gave specific guidance about topics including how to avoid civilian casualties, how to win the hearts and minds of villagers, and the necessity of limiting suicide attacks to avoid a backlash.

In recent months, a growing number of Taliban leaders are believed to have fled to Karachi, a sprawling, chaotic city in southern Pakistan hundreds of miles from the turbulence of the Afghan frontier. A diplomat based in Kabul, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said in an interview last month that Mullah Omar had moved to Karachi, and that several of his colleagues were there, too.

The leadership council, which includes more than a dozen of the Taliban’s best-known leaders, charts the overall direction of the war, assigns Taliban “shadow governors” to run many Afghan provinces and districts, and chooses battlefield commanders. It also oversees a number of subcommittees that direct other aspects of the war, like political, religious and military affairs.

According to Wahid Muzhda, a former Taliban official in Kabul who stays in touch with former colleagues, the council meets every three or four months to plot strategy. As recently as three years ago, he said, the council had 19 members. Since then, six have been killed or captured. Others have since filled the empty seats, he said.

Among the council members killed were Mullah Dadullah, who died during a raid by NATO and Afghan forces in 2007. Among the captured were Mullah Obaidullah, the Taliban defense minister, who reported to Mr. Baradar.

“The only man more powerful than Baradar is Omar,” Mr. Muzhda said. “He and Omar cannot meet very often because of security reasons, but they have a very good relationship.”

Western and Afghan officials familiar with the workings of the Taliban’s leadership have described Mullah Baradar as one of the Taliban’s most approachable leaders, and the one most ready to negotiate with the Afghan government.

Mediators who have worked to resolve kidnappings and other serious issues have often approached the Taliban leadership through him.

As in the case of the reclusive Mullah Omar, the public details of Mullah Baradar’s life are murky. According to an Interpol alert, he was born in 1968 in Weetmak, a village in Afghanistan’s Oruzgan Province. Terrorism experts describe him as a skilled military leader who runs many high-level meetings of the Taliban’s top commanders in Afghanistan.

In answers to questions submitted by Newsweek last summer, Mullah Baradar said that he could not maintain “continuous contacts” with Mullah Omar, but that he received advice on “important topics” from the cleric.

In the same interview, Mullah Baradar said he welcomed a large increase in American troops in Afghanistan because the Taliban “want to inflict maximum losses on the Americans, which is possible only when the Americans are present here in large numbers and come out of their fortified places.”

Shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks, Mullah Baradar was assigned by Mullah Omar to assume overall command of Taliban forces in northern Afghanistan. In that role, he oversaw a large group of battle-hardened Arab and foreign fighters who were based in the northern cities of Kunduz and Mazar-i-Sharif.

In November 2001, as Taliban forces collapsed after the American invasion, Mullah Baradar and several other senior Taliban leaders were captured by Afghan militia fighters aligned with the United States. But Pakistani intelligence operatives intervened, and Mullah Baradar and the other Taliban leaders were released, according to a senior official of the Northern Alliance, the group of Afghans aligned with the United States.
 
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Now just to read him his miranda rights. Then we'll realy have something over him.
 
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That didn't take long.

He's actually been in custody for several days now.
He was even in custody yesterday morning while DICK was on the Sunday AM news shows bitching about how we're so soft on getting this kind of stuff done.

Looks like DICK is looking a bit flaccid right now.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flyboy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now just to read him his miranda rights. Then we'll realy have something over him. </div></div>

And maybe they will start feather-boarding him for intel
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DaveV</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flyboy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now just to read him his miranda rights. Then we'll realy have something over him. </div></div>

And maybe they will start feather-boarding him for intel
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Is that also known as the "Tickle Treatment." That should be baned immediately!!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The_Punisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Its obama's 3rd cousin! </div></div>

I guess the Prez was pissed that his cousin rejected a personal dinner invitation to the White House so he sent the military into Pakistan to find him so he could explain his actions.
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Wow. Just wow.
This is a major victory for our side, yet since it happened under the current administration, it's somehow less meaningful and important?

Bush/Cheney mirandized and tried in civilian courts literally scores of terror suspects, yet no one complained about it then.

I understand the hatred for the current leadership, and the fears and ignorance that drives it. I really do.

But can't you at least in some way acknowledge that a good thing has occurred here?

We don't know if this clown has talked in the several days since his capture. Even if he hasn't, his capture alone is a major victory for our side.
You think he may have had a cell phone on him?
Documents?
How long had they tracked him before making the move?
What did he show them?

Some of you are truly sad.
 
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His position has already been filled and it is doubtful that his capture has done much of anything to slow the activities of the Taliban. His cellphone will likely be missed more than he. The fact that he was captured alive means this country is still not approaching the problem correctly.

God bless our men & women involved in capturing this asshole and I hope they all make it home safely. Hopefully none of them are facing court martial for pinching his arm hair while they were putting hand cuffs on him.

They should have been authorized to remove his head to prevent him from being released in Chicago in a couple of years once he is acquitted due to having to drink warm chocolate milk while in our custody.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow. Just wow.
I understand the hatred for the current leadership, and the fears and ignorance that drives it. I really do.

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That's fuckin hilarious right there.
 
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The only reason he's talking...WE aren't doing the interrogation. :~)
 
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There is a back story to this, #2’s in the Taliban have been taken out and replaced for years, and this guy with his armed troop was butting heads with the big Mullah. Power struggles even happen in the Taliban, he may have been set up or even given up…just sayin.
Now the press and the government is going to run this up the flag pole with trumpet music coming out of their ass, that we all know for sure. It does sound good and even though this guy seemed to be on the outs, it is a plus for us, just maybe not the A+ many want us to believe.
 
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According to his Facebook page, he was a founding member of the Taliban in 1994. Maybe Omar's brother-in-law.
 
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they better bubble wrap him, we dont need anymore of our soldiers brought up on charges
 
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Did I miss something or did you make the connection about civil trials and Obama. I only saw two posts with regards to the Pres and both seemed at least to me to have nothing to do with mairanda rights being read because of the current Addmin. I think you need to back off and stop assuming you know how people feel about different issues unless they come right out and say it. I'll tell you right now that most if not all of the members on this sight disagree with the idea of the practice regardless of whos in office.
 
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Silly Flyboy...

We're all supposed to be A) humiliated by the success of the badass in chief (and his even more cartoonishly badass vice president!) for this triumph since many of us believe him to be strictly an affirmative action construct, carried by the amazing power of hype into his present office and B) by comparison, the previous commander in chief accomplished NOTHING in 7 years except of course run up the deficit and ruin the economy and not stop don't ask don't tell ...

Get it? Then, when we comment about the laughable juxtaposition of a man so plainly out of his depth that when his teleprompter failed, rather than proceed off the cuff, he stood there waiting for the prompter to be fixed before continuing, we are ignorant, fearful haters!

So to conclude, the groundwork was laid many years ago by professional political, intelligence and military people and the biggest thing the poser in chief should get credit for is not leaking the operation to the New York times, for a change!
 
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I don't think that you should give the scum the same consideration as you do American citizens.

OTOH, I also don't think that you necessarily give them the courtesy of being tried as an enemy soldier in military courts.
They are not soldiers. They are hoodlums and cowards.

If it were up to me, I'd say pull his toenails out until he tells all he knows.
Then gut a hog and stuff him inside of it while he's still alive.
Then bury the hog and him in an unmarked and unremarkable grave.
Televising the event worldwide would be a plus. Let's see him scratch his way out of that pig and get a virgin to give him the time of day.

Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your point of view and level of civility, it's not up to those with extreme views such as myself.
If it were, that whole fucking side of the world would have been glass by noon on 9-14-2001.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow. Just wow.
I understand the hatred for the current leadership, and the fears and ignorance that drives it. I really do.</div></div>

This catch is obviously a good thing but, by the same token, the capture of KSM was too and look what a circus this administration has made of it. Just because Bush screwed up and handled a few through our court system doesn't make this ass clown capable of doing it right. The rule, not the exception, is that they will screw it up. It is common knowledge that the professionals who know what to do are hamstrung.