True job of the SCOTUS

[Gunfighter14e2]

Found it on the web,...

The one single element in a lot of these threads that makes me twitch the most is the notion that the Supreme Court of the United States's job is to "interpret" the Constitution. The document is quite clear and doesn't need "interpretation". One uses an interpreter to help one understand something written or spoken in some other language. The SCOTUS's only job is to decide whether or not a given law is compliant with the Constitution. Anything beyond that is ACTIVISM...

 

[ArmyJerry]

Exactly

 

[pmclaine]

The supreme court gets a law from Congress and only ensures it fits within the framework of the Constitution.

There is nothing to interpret.

The document is clear and if you want to do more research the Federalist Papers provide mindset of Founders to arrive at their decisions for framing the COTUS the way they did.

SCOTUS are 9 JUDGES not legislators.

Such an important job and such a breech of trust when they dont maintain the impartiality the job requires.

 

[Howland]

Found it on the web,...

The one single element in a lot of these threads that makes me twitch the most is the notion that the Supreme Court of the United States's job is to "interpret" the Constitution. The document is quite clear and doesn't need "interpretation". One uses an interpreter to help one understand something written or spoken in some other language. The SCOTUS's only job is to decide whether or not a given law is compliant with the Constitution. Anything beyond that is ACTIVISM...

You nailed it! It's too bad the Princes on the Potomac don't get it. Well, they actually do get it. They just choose to deviate from it.

It just highlights the major flaw of the Constitution and thus, the rest of our legal system. It is almost wholy reliant on an officeholders sense of honor to faithfully carry out their duties. Of course it was written in a time when that was the rule, not the exception, so the argument can be made that it was suitable for that society in those times. That makes it unsuitable for the present society of today.

We need consequences built in. Real, personal, unpleasant consequences, and sufficiently so to act as a deterrent.

 

[ArmyJerry]

They are 9 democrats and republicans with as much regard for the constitution as the rest of their evil fucking parties. Traitors, and communist scumbags for the most part. (Thomas and Alito excepted)

 

[pmclaine]

You nailed it! It's too bad the Princes on the Potomac don't get it. Well, they actually do get it. They just choose to deviate from it.

It just highlights the major flaw of the Constitution and thus, the rest of our legal system. It is almost wholy reliant on an officeholders sense of honor to faithfully carry out their duties. Of course it was written in a time when that was the rule, not the exception, so the argument can be made that it was suitable for that society in those times. That makes it unsuitable for the present society of today.

We need consequences built in. Real, personal, unpleasant consequences, and sufficiently so to act as a deterrent.

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams


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[pmclaine]

Here is another gem from Mr Adams....

Tyranny can scarcely be practised upon a virtuous and wise people.

 

[Maggot]

It is almost wholy reliant on an officeholders sense of honor to faithfully carry out their duties.
We need consequences built in. Real, personal, unpleasant consequences, and sufficiently so to act as a deterrent.

Some saw it this way.

• OUR LIVES, OUR FORTUNES AND OUR SACRED HONOR

Kinda puts a catch in my throat, a bit of dust in the eye.

 

[Crang]

"You seem ... to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions; a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the DESPOTISM of an oligarchy."

"Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so ... and their power (is) the more dangerous, as they are in office for life and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control.

The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with corruptions of time and party, its members would become DESPOTS."

Thomas Jefferson 1820

 

[Fig]

And so they have. Thomas may be the only legitimate SCOTUS Judge who believes in the Constitution and his role.

 

[DuneBoer]

The SCOTUS has always been activist and interpret the constitution. They ruled slavery was constitutional at one point. I would think that would have been an easy one to get right the first time.

 

[Mwalex]

The Constitution is a roadblock to what politicians want to do to the country and us. The SCOTUS appointees are trying to find ways for the government to circumvent the Constitution with every new law. Some are slowing the process while others are pouring fuel on the fire.