Upgrade rifle or optics first

[Jmkiser105]

I have a Ruger American predator in 6.5 Creedmoor with a vortex Diamondback Tactical 4-12x40 and I’m looking to upgrade both the rifle and scope eventually but can’t afford to do both. Looking at getting the MPA PMR 6.5 Creedmoor for the rifle upgrade and a Vortex razor HD gen 2 for the scope but can’t decide which one to pull the trigger on first.

 

[hereinaz]

If the rifle shoots better than 1 moa, then upgrading glass is better. Better glass helps you learn to see the mirage, the small things. Getting a better rifle can't help your mind and eyes learn to see what matters much more than how a rifle shoots.

 

[Jmkiser105]

The rifle does shoot MOA and I was leaning toward optics first, looks like that’s the route I’m going to take, thanks for the input

 

[Crabcore]

optics first. I went from a gen 1 viper pst to a gen 2 Razor and it made a big difference.

 

[frank320]

Upgrade your optic first. Get an optic that will be good enough even when you upgrade your rifle in the future.
When that happens, you can move the upgraded optic to your new upgraded rifle in the future and have an awesome setup.

If you upgrade your rifle now, you land up having 2 good shooting rifles, but one sub-par optic...

 

[Greg Langelius *]

If you can't see to aim, you can't shoot well no matter what state the firearm is in.

Optics first, the rest later. That said, get enough optics, but don't go so far into it that you can't afford to do the rifle fixes too.

Greg

 

[King_beardsly]

Optic first and foremost, if you can’t see it then you can’t hit it.

 

[hafejd30]

Optic

 

[seanh]

Just one of those things that nobody can answer for you. There's an argument that can be made for either side.

Get you a spiral notebook... Loose leaf paper Works too, pen or pencil. Now you're going to on one sheet start writing down what you like about the rifle. Then write down what specifically about the rifle is keeping you from shooting well, impeding your comfort, this isn't just a compare-and-contrast... It's what is specifically keeping you back.

You got to do the same thing with the optic. Your current optic how is it impeding you from shooting well?

Let's say for example the scope that you have does very well for you about to say 600-800( whatever distance you choose is 80% of where you shoot). You shoulder the rifle it doesn't fit well, you don't like the trigger but it's usable... Well the obvious choice is you fix the rifle as necessary. Upgrading the scope would be a waste of money at this time when compared to getting the gun the way you want.

Same thing to be said for the scope let's say you mount a rifle and it's very comfortable trigger isn't great but it's manageable... But the scope doesn't quite give you the clarity that you want and is keeping you from going past say 600 yards hundred yards... then get the scope.

Basically what you're doing is giving you a logical Quantified list to determine the difference between want and need

 

[BadAccountant]

Optics. You can use a good optic on every rifle, and can swap over to whatever you're using for a given purpose. You can even take it to your next rifle when you upgrade your rifle down the line.

 

[Slowroll]

Upgrade your glass, rifles can multiply like rabbits in the safe. I have never seen glass multiply like that. Trigger and bedding are the two best and cheapest things you can do to improve your shooting with a stock rifle. Those two together aren’t in the same ballpark as glass for price. Best of luck.

 

[Gustav7]

I just upgraded my optic on my SPR-ish AR. I was already shooting sub-moa consistently with my Vortext PST Gen 1 2.5-10 and my Geissele SSA (4.5lb) trigger.

I upgraded to a Steiner P4xi 4-16 earlier this year, and about 2 months after that upgraded my trigger to a TT Diamond. God what a difference both of those have made.

I would definitely go optic first.... Plus, if you're like me... You probably still have a lot of improvement to do with your shooting fundamentals, so learn how to outshoot this rifle with better glass, and then upgrade to a rifle that shoots better than you later...and you'll already have the good glass