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US Handgunner Bolt Knob Pics Check It Out

Jester8

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I thought that I would post some pics of my WINCHESTER rifle which US Handgunner installed a Badger Knob on. By no means am I affiliated with Handgunner, I just thought that some guys would like to take a serious look at his craftsmanship. Turn around was quick, and the knob flows perfectly into the handle. I couldn't be more pleased. If you have a FN/Winny and need a knob give US Handgunner a shout, you will be pleased with the outcome. Here are some pics, let him know what you think!


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Pic doesn't do it justice, but it's good shit.

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And a few of the whole rifle.


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Any questions PM US Handgunner
 
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Here is my first Duracoat Stock job. Used Bulldog Arms system with GAP camo. I like it, but the next one will be better. You learn from each job. The rifle is Cerakoted Graphite Black and the custom 1911 is Cerakoted Stainless. I like Cerakote, but Duracoat is awesome for stocks!

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I have a knob on the PBR I bought from US and it really is quality work. I wish I could have brought it with me so I could shoot it on the army's dime but it's gonna get run ragged when I get back home. If you've been thinking about having a bolt knob installed I'd highly recommend it, makes a night and day difference and US has definitely figured out how to do it right.
 
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Man, that looks really good. I love how the handle blends into the bolt knob. Can it be done on a 700 style bolt or Winny only?
 
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I'm working on refining my Remington 700 technique to allow it to blend a little better. But because of the nature of the geometry of the square handle and round knob its pretty difficult. I can get two sides to blend in perfectly, but the upper and lower half of the handle just wont match up.
 
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Here are a few pictures of some bolts that I did this weekend for some customers here on the Hide. Obviously the Remington handle is not round like the Winchester or FN, so all sides can not flow into the knob like the Winchesters/FN's do, but I do my best.

Once I have everything indicated in on my Lathe in my fixture, I start cutting the old knob off. Once the old knob is down to the correct dimensions, I thread the knob for 5/16 x 24. I like this thread because if the customer ever whats to try a different knob on, they will always have that option. I do not glue the knob on unless the customer requests that. I dont need to because I have a good shoulder for the knob to butt against.

Once all the cuts are made, I drill out the center of the handle, and tap it for 10/32. I then clean out the threads, degrease them and fill the hole with Loc-Tite 271 and insert a hardened Steel 10/32 screw. While this is a messy job and there is Loc-Tite all over, this screw is anywhere from 1"- 1 1/4" long. I then face off the end and let the Loc-Tite take over from there. It makes the typical install much stronger because were not just using the factory Remington handle. We use that plus a hardened steel stud inserted past the handle/bolt knob shoulder.

So after all is said in done, the transition is clean, the standard knob threads (5/16 x 24) threads can be used and the handle is now much stronger than it use to be.

Here are some pictures.

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Handgunner..You may have done my Savage bolt about a year ago...had my gunshop in vandalia ohio send it off to "Someone" (I didnt know who) and it came back just like these..and since were both in ohio?

Didnt mean to hijack...

Great work! im very pleased with mine
 
Re: US Handgunner Bolt Knob Pics Check It Out

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mustanggt1995</div><div class="ubbcode-body">how much to do a remington </div></div>

I'm interested, as well.
 
Re: US Handgunner Bolt Knob Pics Check It Out

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Red_SC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mustanggt1995</div><div class="ubbcode-body">how much to do a remington </div></div>

I'm interested, as well. </div></div>

Remington 700's are the same price, $85.

Check out my website listed below, I have more info on the bolt knob conversions and prices. Thanks.

Mark
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: US Handgunner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm working on refining my Remington 700 technique to allow it to blend a little better. But because of the nature of the geometry of the square handle and round knob its pretty difficult. I can get two sides to blend in perfectly, but the upper and lower half of the handle just wont match up.</div></div>
Mark, really nice blending job on the M70 bolt handle - I've always preferred a the M70 over the M700 and the M70's solid, one-piece bolt handle/knob is just one of those little reasons why. The extra girth of the M70's knob allows seamless blending, but the M700's bolt handle leaves much to be desired.

While blending the junction of the M700's handle and knob would be nice, it is more important to have greater clearance between the bolt knob and the stock so that the bolt can be completely closed without interference from the shooter's fingers as the bolt is closed (some folks have big mitts and/or wear gloves).

Without the bolt properly closed the lugs will not be fully seated, causing a possible misalignment of the cartridge. Cartridge alignment is critical for best accuracy.

Greater clearance also reduces the chance that the top of the shooter's trigger finger will not lift the bolt handle and unseat the lugs - again, causing a possible misalignment of the cartridge.

Not having to shorten the bolt handle to reduce the shank "to the correct dimensions" retains the original length and does not reduce the clearance between the bolt knob and the stock or between the shooter's forefinger and the bolt knob.

The Tac Ops Bolt Knob uses a large diameter hardened steel threaded insert that is TIG welded to the bolt handle. Prior to TIG welding the handle is inspected for voids and any that are found are filled. After TIG welding the bolt handle / shank junction is ground to a seamlessly smooth. The bolt handle's original round profile remains.

A competitor's bolt knob also uses a threaded steel insert that is welded to the bolt handle (I am told that this insert is hardened). Prior to welding the handle can be inspected for voids so that any that are found may be filled. After welding the bolt handle / shank junction is ground smooth and flat.

Below are a few photos' of a Tac Ops Bolt Knob installed on a RH SA M700 bolt and a competitor's bolt knob installed on a LH SA M700 bolt.

Compare the <span style="font-weight: bold">length of the handle and the diameter of the threaded shank</span> of the Tac Ops bolt to the length of the handle and the diameter of the threaded shank of the competitor's bolt:

<span style="font-weight: bold">Tac Ops bolt handle:</span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Competitor's bolt handle:</span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Competitor's Bolt (on left) and Tac Ops Bolt (on right):</span>
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Now on the rifles. Getting the angle the same for both guns was tricky, so it may be difficult to see the actual clearance difference in in the photos. However, in person the clearance delta is substantial.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Look at the clearance between the bolt knob's "top" and the stock on this Tac Ops Bolt:</span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Compared to the clearance between the bolt knob's "top" and the stock on the competitor's bolt:</span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Also, look at the distance between the bolt knob's "bottom corner" and the grip on the Tac Ops rifle:</span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Compared to the distance between the bolt knob's "bottom corner" and the grip on the competitor's rifle:</span>
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I'm just sayin'...

Keith
 
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Keith, I hear you loud and clear. I would be interest to see how many people would be happier with a slightly longer bolt handle, like the Tac-Ops. I'm sure its not longer just by accident on their rifles.

While my bolt knob conversions are slightly longer than the competetors do to the fact that the handle starts to blend in the new knob from the contour of the old knob, and the competetors typically cut the handle square off slightly before that. Still, that is not a solution.

What I have been planning is designing my own Remington 700 bolt handles that have roughly the same look and feel, but made from a stronger metal and that already comes machined with threads. In addition, I want a better bolt camming surface that does not get rounded off and allows for better bolt/action extraction cam contact.

This handle will be installed on any custom rifle that I will build and will be properly Tig welded in place ensuring correct bolt timing as well.

I believe that this is the best solution for the problem because you are using a stronger handle with a better extraction angles that is timed correctly to the bolt and Tig welded in place. Moreover, you can install whatever bolt knob you would like on.

Mark
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: US Handgunner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here are a few pictures of a knob that I did this morning. Winchester/FN metal is hard....lol I do these with 5/16 x 24
that way most knobs can be used.

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How much is the conversion including the knob?