An interview with what I think was her last commanding officer. This was the Navy I belonged to. This is the Navy I remember. @pmclaine @sirhrmechanic @MarinePMI
A hell of a sea story
A hell of a sea story
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Now we all know who blew up the turret.
"Hey squids! I strapped a Quigley Ford to the middle barrel... we're gonna get first shot hits now!"
"Hey squids! I strapped a Quigley Ford to the middle barrel... we're gonna get first shot hits now!"
The series of videos the curator of the New Jersey puts out is fantastic.
Analog technology did not lack in the high tech department.
It was actually more nuanced because the hurdles to overcome had to be jumped with gears and machine shop tools not "programming"..........and they succeeded.
Analog technology did not lack in the high tech department.
It was actually more nuanced because the hurdles to overcome had to be jumped with gears and machine shop tools not "programming"..........and they succeeded.
It's amazing what pencil and a piece of paper are capableof, also maybe a Slide-Rule as well.
No power needed
I love it when all the fucking pinheads who've probably never even seen the sea, let alone sail on a warship, declare they know how an Iowa class battleship would fare against a current day peer.
I'll take Captain Seaquist's assessment of the ship's offensive and defensive capabilities over all the idiot internet admirals who don't know shit from shinola.
I'll take Captain Seaquist's assessment of the ship's offensive and defensive capabilities over all the idiot internet admirals who don't know shit from shinola.
Look at the tangent sight on a Springfield 03.
It is a marvel of complexity.
That one part alone almost caused us to not have enough "emergency" production rifles so the A3 Springfield was adopted.
One regret of my USMC enlistment was never having the chance to be mid Atlantic/Pacific on a calm sea and being able to look at the night sky.
Everything beside that....seasicknesss, smelly squad bays and the proliferation of seamen would have sucked.
I thought someone from the NAVYs infantry would have gotten used to being surrounded by Seamen.
Some here know, that I've got a project going on here specifically to do with the BB62 New Jersey. BUT, if any of ya'll have any first-hand account history and/or experiences that you wouldn't mind sharing, from ANY of the Battleships, I'd greatly appreciate a PM.
The project I've got 'in the works' is NOT small, at all.
The project I've got 'in the works' is NOT small, at all.
Seems like they gargle it these days....oh wait missed the "a"....never mind.
1:96
So yes, that makes it 9'3" long.
Thing is, I'm building this all out of aluminum, starting with the actual "plate plan" instead of 'just buying' a fibreglass or plastic pre-made hull that is NEVER accurate or nearly detailed as compared to what I'm doing.
Since there hasn't actually been a hull like this laid since the 1940's, I figured that it was time some respect was shown to all them craftsmen. And abilities.
But I digress.... hence why I'm interested in hearing from people that 'actually know' and/or have pictures and such to share.
I'm not doing this, nor doing it this way, because it is 'easy'.... not at all. I'm doing this in such manner BECAUSE it is hard. And because I can..... whereas I haven't yet actually met anyone else where this type of thing interests anyone. For 'them' it's all 'just buy a kit, put it together over a weekend, and then go play with it'. That is not the goal. For me, it is the journey.
Bonus points if you can put boilers and steam turbines in it instead of electric motors.
Looking inside a ballistic computer on a battleship is like looking into 5,000 Rolex's all stringed together and working in tandem to put a shell on a Volkswagen moving at 20 MPH at 20 miles (and I am not making that up.)
Incredible what people with slide-rules, vernier scales and gear-driven computers could accomplish.
Want to see an equally-amazing video/movie? It's 4 hours long and worth every second to watch:
I have never visited London without paying a visit to the Longitude Clocks at the Greenwich Observatory. Been there 20 times at least. Standing and watching them run is just... magical.
Microchips are the easy way out. What men with slide rules did with gears, etc. That is craftsmanship.
Oh and... take a look at this!
If you are not fascinated by the Antikythera mechanism... then all this gear stuff is lost on you.
Cheers,
Sirhr
Incredible what people with slide-rules, vernier scales and gear-driven computers could accomplish.
Want to see an equally-amazing video/movie? It's 4 hours long and worth every second to watch:
I have never visited London without paying a visit to the Longitude Clocks at the Greenwich Observatory. Been there 20 times at least. Standing and watching them run is just... magical.
Microchips are the easy way out. What men with slide rules did with gears, etc. That is craftsmanship.
Oh and... take a look at this!
If you are not fascinated by the Antikythera mechanism... then all this gear stuff is lost on you.
Cheers,
Sirhr
Well damn. My niece was married to a guy who was a machinists mate for a few years on the Joisey back in the 80's. He likely could have helped.
I was in during that time frame. While I was going through Gunnery School, there were a couple of guys from the New Jersey that had “Lebanon Landscaping Company” t shirts.
Did a deployment with the Missouri group in the Gulf in ‘87 escorting oil tankers blowing up anything floating in the water lest it be attached to a mine or IED. When the 16” guns go off, it’s impressive and you can definitely feel it even if you aren’t on the battleship.
Hope you've seen this. Also posting since it was mentioned up above.
Were they members of the Beqaa Valley Gun Club?
@Sean the Nailer
Not quite joking about the boilers and turbines. Do you have a nearby university with an engineering college? If so, mech E students always need projects to work on like these guys from the University of Limerick
Then there's stuff that comes almost ready to go: https://labts.co.id/product/mini-steam-turbine-power-plant/
Not quite joking about the boilers and turbines. Do you have a nearby university with an engineering college? If so, mech E students always need projects to work on like these guys from the University of Limerick
Then there's stuff that comes almost ready to go: https://labts.co.id/product/mini-steam-turbine-power-plant/
This guy went big................12 ft long Gato class submarine. Those were a tick over 300 feet long so that works out to 1:25 roughly?
A 1:25 Iowa class would be like 30 - 35 feet long?
35.2'
Those are some nice video's, and that is about the level of "how far do you want to get in to this" that I'm aiming for. Though I DO have the benefit of using newer and fancier technology.
Mine too will be having the battery-powered electric motors on the 4 screws. One of the biggest attractions as a ship for me, is all the mechanical animation that is possible because of the 'actual' stuff that ship did. So much of the "outboard profile" is a moving part, in one manner or another. As opposed to most other ships that draws attention to others like missile carriers, aircraft carriers, and such. A floating 'bunch of facets' or a 'flat-top' doesn't interest me much.
But then you add to the mix, my machining history, touch on some gunsmithing and whatnot, then look at all the different things that can move/fire/launch and whatnot..... 80% of the fun of this project is simply the 'making/doing' of these different tangents.
When it's all said and done, it'll be on the water with the local Model Boat Builders Club as they have some good-sized sailing events. There are a few other members involved whom have 'good-sized' models and whatnot, but they are of considerably smaller ships. The level of detail that these guys get into though, and the depth of accuracy can be quite 'intrinsic'. Their tag-line for certain sticklers to detail are "rivet-counters".
As I stated previous though, any 'commercial' hull for these Iowa class ships are either made out of fiberglass or plastic. And there isn't a single company yet that has done so that was actually accurate. This is because the 'plastic molds' themselves need to fit certain parameters, so the company's just say 'good enough'. Then anyone who has made a fiberglass hull has pretty-much used a plastic one as a form. The 'rivet-counters' all complain about wrong widths at certain areas, wrong heights, as well as inaccurate details in the aft sections. For a simple example, there isn't any out there offered with a docking keel. Most don't know what that is. But that's ok.
Now, to take the principle of this, as well as the actual 'plate plan' from the '40s and actually hammer-out each individual plate to create the hull will be a bit of a 'feat' in itself. And that is the challenge.
This is not a race-boat or anything, so when it is afloat the only thing it will be doing is 'moving slow'. But there will be so much going on 'topside' where anyone around should get a bit of a show. It's not the destination, but the journey. A lot of the bridge structure will be made out of styrene and one day I may get myself a 3D printer, but that's down the road. And for what it's worth, my build is of the 80's refit, so it'll have the Tomahawks and Hellfire(?) missiles. And CIWS.
Thanks for the vid's though, they were definitely interesting. I especially like the steam turbine, and appreciate it's potential.
Those are some nice video's, and that is about the level of "how far do you want to get in to this" that I'm aiming for. Though I DO have the benefit of using newer and fancier technology.
Mine too will be having the battery-powered electric motors on the 4 screws. One of the biggest attractions as a ship for me, is all the mechanical animation that is possible because of the 'actual' stuff that ship did. So much of the "outboard profile" is a moving part, in one manner or another. As opposed to most other ships that draws attention to others like missile carriers, aircraft carriers, and such. A floating 'bunch of facets' or a 'flat-top' doesn't interest me much.
But then you add to the mix, my machining history, touch on some gunsmithing and whatnot, then look at all the different things that can move/fire/launch and whatnot..... 80% of the fun of this project is simply the 'making/doing' of these different tangents.
When it's all said and done, it'll be on the water with the local Model Boat Builders Club as they have some good-sized sailing events. There are a few other members involved whom have 'good-sized' models and whatnot, but they are of considerably smaller ships. The level of detail that these guys get into though, and the depth of accuracy can be quite 'intrinsic'. Their tag-line for certain sticklers to detail are "rivet-counters".
As I stated previous though, any 'commercial' hull for these Iowa class ships are either made out of fiberglass or plastic. And there isn't a single company yet that has done so that was actually accurate. This is because the 'plastic molds' themselves need to fit certain parameters, so the company's just say 'good enough'. Then anyone who has made a fiberglass hull has pretty-much used a plastic one as a form. The 'rivet-counters' all complain about wrong widths at certain areas, wrong heights, as well as inaccurate details in the aft sections. For a simple example, there isn't any out there offered with a docking keel. Most don't know what that is. But that's ok.
Now, to take the principle of this, as well as the actual 'plate plan' from the '40s and actually hammer-out each individual plate to create the hull will be a bit of a 'feat' in itself. And that is the challenge.
This is not a race-boat or anything, so when it is afloat the only thing it will be doing is 'moving slow'. But there will be so much going on 'topside' where anyone around should get a bit of a show. It's not the destination, but the journey. A lot of the bridge structure will be made out of styrene and one day I may get myself a 3D printer, but that's down the road. And for what it's worth, my build is of the 80's refit, so it'll have the Tomahawks and Hellfire(?) missiles. And CIWS.
Thanks for the vid's though, they were definitely interesting. I especially like the steam turbine, and appreciate it's potential.
@Sean the Nailer
If you scale a 16"/50 gun to 1/96th, it's 8.33" long with a bore of .17"
Things that make you go hmmmmm.......
If you scale a 16"/50 gun to 1/96th, it's 8.33" long with a bore of .17"
Things that make you go hmmmmm.......
I'm way ahead of ya!@Sean the Nailer
If you scale a 16"/50 gun to 1/96th, it's 8.33" long with a bore of .17"
Things that make you go hmmmmm.......
Now, the concept of reloading with blackpowder is even gooder'er! Overkill being Under-rated, of course.
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