Re: Verify: AW barrel in AE Mk I, correct?
Don't do it.
The AE barrel has a plain land for recoil lug location.
If you use an AW barrel it will fit but the recoil lug will be located on the thread. Not a problem you may think but the recoil lug on an AE is used to pull the action into the stock vee.
Three things will happen, the internal diameter of the recoil lug will be damaged, the barrel thread will be damaged, the action will not retain it's torque setting into the stock & thus will not shoot as well as it should.
Please use the correct components in the relevant weapons system, saving youself time, money & frustration in the long term.
Don't do it.
The AE barrel has a plain land for recoil lug location.
If you use an AW barrel it will fit but the recoil lug will be located on the thread. Not a problem you may think but the recoil lug on an AE is used to pull the action into the stock vee.
Three things will happen, the internal diameter of the recoil lug will be damaged, the barrel thread will be damaged, the action will not retain it's torque setting into the stock & thus will not shoot as well as it should.
Please use the correct components in the relevant weapons system, saving youself time, money & frustration in the long term.
Re: Verify: AW barrel in AE Mk I, correct?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bonneville</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't do it.
The AE barrel has a plain land for recoil lug location.
If you use an AW barrel it will fit but the recoil lug will be located on the thread. Not a problem you may think but the recoil lug on an AE is used to pull the action into the stock vee.
Three things will happen, the internal diameter of the recoil lug will be damaged, the barrel thread will be damaged, the action will not retain it's torque setting into the stock & thus will not shoot as well as it should.
Please use the correct components in the relevant weapons system, saving youself time, money & frustration in the long term. </div></div>
AI themselves says you can use AW barrels on a AE. I would think they know what they're talking about.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bonneville</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't do it.
The AE barrel has a plain land for recoil lug location.
If you use an AW barrel it will fit but the recoil lug will be located on the thread. Not a problem you may think but the recoil lug on an AE is used to pull the action into the stock vee.
Three things will happen, the internal diameter of the recoil lug will be damaged, the barrel thread will be damaged, the action will not retain it's torque setting into the stock & thus will not shoot as well as it should.
Please use the correct components in the relevant weapons system, saving youself time, money & frustration in the long term. </div></div>
AI themselves says you can use AW barrels on a AE. I would think they know what they're talking about.
Re: Verify: AW barrel in AE Mk I, correct?
If that were true why make an AE barrel.
all I can do is give advice, you choose what you do with it.
If that were true why make an AE barrel.
all I can do is give advice, you choose what you do with it.
Re: Verify: AW barrel in AE Mk I, correct?
Advice? Where do you get your information? I had a 24" 1:11 twist barrel made for my AE spec'd for a AW that has been swapped with the original 24" probably over 10 times now and I do not recall any recoil lug damage the last time I swapped the original back in, and looking at the other barrel the threads are fine.
For my Badger M2008 build I bought a second AW 20" fluted barrel from a member here who had been using it on his AE, and the threads on it were fine aswell.
I haven't seen or heard of anybody else having issues with theirs either.
Advice? Where do you get your information? I had a 24" 1:11 twist barrel made for my AE spec'd for a AW that has been swapped with the original 24" probably over 10 times now and I do not recall any recoil lug damage the last time I swapped the original back in, and looking at the other barrel the threads are fine.
For my Badger M2008 build I bought a second AW 20" fluted barrel from a member here who had been using it on his AE, and the threads on it were fine aswell.
I haven't seen or heard of anybody else having issues with theirs either.
Re: Verify: AW barrel in AE Mk I, correct?
Advice is always interesting. Especially when it wasn't what the person asking wanted to hear. Many people can disregard advice many times without any consequence, but then someone does the same thing, and does get a consequence. This should get interesting.
Advice is always interesting. Especially when it wasn't what the person asking wanted to hear. Many people can disregard advice many times without any consequence, but then someone does the same thing, and does get a consequence. This should get interesting.
Re: Verify: AW barrel in AE Mk I, correct?
I have seen some thread markings left over inside the recoil lug from barrel swaps - AW in AE. Many barrel changes later I never noticed any performance gain/loss.
I would ask if it hinders warranty in any way.
I have seen some thread markings left over inside the recoil lug from barrel swaps - AW in AE. Many barrel changes later I never noticed any performance gain/loss.
I would ask if it hinders warranty in any way.
Re: Verify: AW barrel in AE Mk I, correct?
I've never done it, but did at George at GAP about it the other day, he recommended against it.
George said that the AW and AE are .003 off from one another. That in itself might not be a big deal unless you get an action that's a little under spec, then a barrel that's a little over spec, then that difference can become something noticeable and could cause issues.
Again, not my words, but simply what I was told by a GS that everyone here tends to respect the opinion of. I would ask AI their thoughts on the subject as well, if they said you were GTG then I'd do it, but I would spend the money on a good set of go/no go gauges.
I've never done it, but did at George at GAP about it the other day, he recommended against it.
George said that the AW and AE are .003 off from one another. That in itself might not be a big deal unless you get an action that's a little under spec, then a barrel that's a little over spec, then that difference can become something noticeable and could cause issues.
Again, not my words, but simply what I was told by a GS that everyone here tends to respect the opinion of. I would ask AI their thoughts on the subject as well, if they said you were GTG then I'd do it, but I would spend the money on a good set of go/no go gauges.
Re: Verify: AW barrel in AE Mk I, correct?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've never done it, but did at George at GAP about it the other day, he recommended against it.
George said that the AW and AE are .003 off from one another. That in itself might not be a big deal unless you get an action that's a little under spec, then a barrel that's a little over spec, then that difference can become something noticeable and could cause issues.
Again, not my words, but simply what I was told by a GS that everyone here tends to respect the opinion of. I would ask AI their thoughts on the subject as well, if they said you were GTG then I'd do it, but I would spend the money on a good set of go/no go gauges. </div></div>
Pretty much my same experience. AI said good to go, GAP suggested against. I personally went with GAPs suggestion as they were making the AE barrel in question because I did not like the potential for issues that George and Moon brought up.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've never done it, but did at George at GAP about it the other day, he recommended against it.
George said that the AW and AE are .003 off from one another. That in itself might not be a big deal unless you get an action that's a little under spec, then a barrel that's a little over spec, then that difference can become something noticeable and could cause issues.
Again, not my words, but simply what I was told by a GS that everyone here tends to respect the opinion of. I would ask AI their thoughts on the subject as well, if they said you were GTG then I'd do it, but I would spend the money on a good set of go/no go gauges. </div></div>
Pretty much my same experience. AI said good to go, GAP suggested against. I personally went with GAPs suggestion as they were making the AE barrel in question because I did not like the potential for issues that George and Moon brought up.
Re: Verify: AW barrel in AE Mk I, correct?
It's pretty simple. If I was buying a barrel for my AE, I would spec an AE barrel.
If I got a great deal on a AW barrel, I would not hesitate to use it per AI's recommendations.
I have headspace gauges and anytime barrel or bolt swaps are involved, they are used.
I am not a benchrest shooter. If I get 1/2 MOA accuracy at 100 yards, it's accurate enough for my purposes.
It's pretty simple. If I was buying a barrel for my AE, I would spec an AE barrel.
If I got a great deal on a AW barrel, I would not hesitate to use it per AI's recommendations.
I have headspace gauges and anytime barrel or bolt swaps are involved, they are used.
I am not a benchrest shooter. If I get 1/2 MOA accuracy at 100 yards, it's accurate enough for my purposes.
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Re: Verify: AW barrel in AE Mk I, correct?
It's not a major deal. I have a spare AW barrel in 26" I got a for a song and kept as an extra for my AW. I have since bought an AE and wanted to turn the barrel down to 18" or so.
I considered using the 26" AW barrel since it appears to be of a different and possibly lighter contour. If I could use this as my intention was to make the AE w/ 2.0 stock lighter, shorter, and overall handier than my AW. Also, I could continue ordering AW barrels as needed for either rifle.
Thanks to all for the input. I have an email out to Stacey, and will most likely call GAP tomorrow as well.
It's not a major deal. I have a spare AW barrel in 26" I got a for a song and kept as an extra for my AW. I have since bought an AE and wanted to turn the barrel down to 18" or so.
I considered using the 26" AW barrel since it appears to be of a different and possibly lighter contour. If I could use this as my intention was to make the AE w/ 2.0 stock lighter, shorter, and overall handier than my AW. Also, I could continue ordering AW barrels as needed for either rifle.
Thanks to all for the input. I have an email out to Stacey, and will most likely call GAP tomorrow as well.
