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Virus May Be Designed to Kill Iran Nuclear Plant

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A computer worm that has infected industrial computers around the world may be part of a campaign targeting nuclear installations in Iran, computer-security researchers said.

The highest concentration of affected systems -- almost 60 percent -- is in Iran, according to data from Symantec Corp., the maker of computer-security software based in Mountain View, California. The Stuxnet worm’s origins and purpose aren’t fully known, according to both Symantec and Frank Rieger, chief technology officer at GSMK, a maker of encrypted mobile phones.

The level of sophistication in the worm’s programming and its ability to hide itself suggest it may have been built by a government-sponsored organization in a country such as the U.S. or Israel, Rieger said.

He estimates that building the worm cost at least $3 million and required a team of as many as 10 skilled programmers working about six months.

“All the details so far to me scream that this was created by a nation-state,” Rieger said in a telephone interview. Iran’s nuclear facilities may have been targets, said Rieger and Richard Falkenrath, principal at the Chertoff Group, a Washington-based security advisory firm.

Iran, which has the world’s second-largest oil reserves, is under United Nations sanctions because it refuses to curtail uranium enrichment and the development of ballistic missiles that might carry a weapon. The country started a 1,000-megawatt nuclear-power reactor near the southern city of Bushehr in August.

‘Hides in Windows’

“It is theoretically possible that the U.S. government did this,” Falkenrath said during an interview today with Bloomberg Television. “But in my judgment, that’s a very remote possibility. It’s more likely that Israel did it.”

A message left at the Israeli embassy’s press office wasn’t immediately returned.

The worm initially infects computers running several editions of Microsoft Corp.’s Windows, including older versions such as Windows 2000, and recent ones such as Windows 7, using one of four vulnerabilities known only to the worm’s creators, said Liam O Murchu, manager of North American security-response operations for Symantec.

“It hides in Windows and then tries to spread itself to other computers running Windows,” O Murchu said. An infected computer shows no ill side effects and the worm ensures that no software running on the computer crashes, which is unusual, he said.

Specific System

As it spreads, the worm searches for connections to a device known as a programmable logic controller, which helps link Windows computers and computerized industrial control systems, converting commands sent from the Windows machine into a format the industrial machines can understand. The worm targets industrial software made by Munich-based Siemens AG, researchers said.

Once an industrial machine is infected, the worm lies dormant until certain conditions in the machine are met, O Murchu said. For example, when the temperature of a certain component gets hot, the worm might prevent a cooling system from functioning. What conditions the worm waits for are unclear, he said.

‘It was designed to go after a specific system set up in a very specific way,” O Murchu said. “What we don’t yet know is where such a system exists in the real world.”

Siemens’ Software Fix

Symantec estimated in July that 14,000 individual computers connected to the Internet worldwide had shown signs of Stuxnet infections. The highest concentration -- 59 percent -- were in Iran; 18 percent were in Indonesia; 8 percent in India and less than 2 percent in the U.S.

Siemens learned of the worm the same month and within a week, issued software to detect and remove it, said Alexander Machowetz, a company spokesman in Erlangen, Germany. The fix was downloaded 12,000 times, and 15 customers said they were affected.

No new cases of Stuxnet infections have been reported since the end of August, and Siemens was not able to determine the worm’s country of origin, Machowetz said.

Microsoft teamed up with researchers at Symantec and at Kasperksy Lab, a Moscow-based antivirus software firm, to create a removal tool for Stuxnet, Jerry Bryant, group manager for the Redmond, Washington-based company’s response communications, said in a company blog post dated Sept. 13. Since then “the threat has gone way down from the spike we saw in early August,” Bryant wrote.

Government Cyber Attacks

Symantec plans to publish more details from its analysis of the worm on Sept. 29.

There is historical precedent for cyber attacks by nation- states, according to a 2004 book by a former U.S. Air Force secretary.

Spies working for the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency inserted malicious software into computer-control systems for a Soviet natural-gas pipeline in Siberia, Thomas C. Reed wrote in “At The Abyss: An Insider’s History Of The Cold War.”

Ultimately the effort caused a massive explosion, said Reed, who was Air Force Secretary in the 1970s and later advised President Ronald Reagan on national security policy.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-24...rcher-says.html
 
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They believe it has already done it's work.
The Iranian plant was to go online early August but was delayed due to "Iranian HOT weather".
 
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They must have done a practice run the other day.
The entire Sam'S Club computer system in every state when down at one time. Took many hours to get it back on line. This is just speculation, but sounds to convienient to me.
 
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Hey, are you guys ready for the magic of smart grids? We waste tons of energy by transmitting it constantly. And those brownouts can sometimes be prevented by automatically switching off people's A/C, life support or whatever is attached to the wall in those hot summer months. We'd be so much better off having our entire country dependent on computers that send messages back and forth to flip the switch on when power is needed.

I can't wait. I hear they'll only use computers completely impervious to viruses, not the primitive crap used in nuclear power plants.
 
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It's only a matter of time before someone comes up with a way to do some serious damage with a virus like this. And there's definitely someone out there that would be more than happy to implement it. They could probably bring the power grid for most of the country down now if someone really wanted to.
 
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Here's how this one works.
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I saw this morning and was about to post it here...interesting stuff. The natural-gas pipe line fiasco in Siberia is some funny stuff.
 
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I don't know man... the virus prevents windows programs from crashing. Sounds like a good thing for Microsoft. lol.
 
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For those who are interested in cyberwarfare this is an interesting "emagazine"
Defence Technology International this is the latest issue.

A cyber attack reminds me of WW2 secret weapons. Radar countermeasures (chaff) was known however neither side was eager to use it else divulge its secrets.
 
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If the info that tucker301 posted is accurate, this virus probably was introduced by a human actor: boots on the ground, a covert operative. Which means "we" -- probably Mossad -- have a man on the inside. That's the good news.

The bad news is that some think the Bushehr facility is a decoy. Because it is so much more overt and exposed than the other Iranian nuclear research and production sites, there's speculation it is involved only in legitimate peaceful nuclear activities. They reason that the Iranians are using it to tempt the US or Israel into striking what they see as an "easy target." After, the Iranians will invite the IAEA to examine the remains to determine whether that facility was used for any non-peaceful purposes. And whoever blew up the place will be made to look the fool in the eyes of the international community.

But if we've infiltrated one facility, there's hope they've infiltrated others as well.
 
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Now Stuxnet reportedly has infected <span style="text-decoration: underline">millions</span> of computers in China! Engineers from PRC and RNK engineered Iran's underground nukular facilities. I wonder if this is a case of, when you lie down with dogs, you get fleas?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fred_C_Dobbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now Stuxnet reportedly has infected <span style="text-decoration: underline">millions</span> of computers in China! Engineers from PRC and RNK engineered Iran's underground nukular facilities. I wonder if this is a case of, when you lie down with dogs, you get fleas? </div></div>

I think someone sent a message in bigger print than necessary so you could read along with your neighbor.

The article that mentioned Jewish reference in the source code has me wondering who did it. Presumably, someone somewhere, if not everyone, knows the story of whodunit, and it's just not a public matter, because it doesn't need to be. Something like the reference I read about screams "Hey, it's Israel, it's Israel! We done it!" Why be so stupid/sloppy/bold? If you're that obvious, it becomes valid grounds for all kinds of crap from Iran(and China, and Russia). Are they that stupid/sloppy/bold, or does someone just want us to think that?

It's kinda like the IT equivalent of finding a video of all the 9-11 hijackers at the terminal wearing "I love Iraq" t-shirts. Is it a "slam dunk" or BS?
 
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There's only one interested party who <span style="font-style: italic">would have</span> put forth the tens of millions of dollars that developing the code required <span style="text-decoration: underline">and</span> had a clandestine service capable of emplacing it. That Israel did it was a foregone conclusion.

The alleged Israeli fingerprint is just eight digits that happen to match the date for the murder of an Iranian Jew. To me, this reeks of the same nonsense as the people pouring over Nostradamus' gibberish and claiming this or that matches a real historical event. It's the proverbial 100 monkeys with typewriters writing Hamlet, only this Hamlet is just eight characters long.
 
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Iran blames Israel after nuclear scientist killed

TEHRAN, Iran – Iran's president accused Israel and the West of being behind a pair of daring bomb attacks that killed one nuclear scientist and wounded another in their cars on the streets of Tehran on Monday. He also admitted for the first time that a computer worm had affected centrifuges in Iran's uranium enrichment program.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and other Iranian officials vowed that the nuclear program would not be hampered by what they described as a campaign to sabotage it — whether by assassination or by the computer virus. The United States and its allies say Iran is seeking to build a nuclear bomb, a claim Tehran denies.

The two bomb attacks occurred when assailants on motorcycles attached magnetized bombs to the cars of two nuclear scientists as they drove to work in separate parts of the capital Monday morning. They detonated seconds later, killing one scientist, wounding another and wounding each of their wives, who were in the cars, Tehran's police chief said.

At least two other Iranian nuclear scientists have been killed in recent years, one of them in an attack similar to Monday's.

The wounded scientist, Fereidoun Abbasi, is on a list of figures suspected of links to secret nuclear activities in a 2007 U.N. sanctions resolution, which puts a travel ban and asset freeze on those listed. The resolution describes him as a Defense Ministry scientist who works closely with Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, believed to head secret nuclear projects. Iranian media said he was a member of the Revolutionary Guard, Iran's strongest military force.

Majid Shahriar, the scientist killed in the bombing, was involved in a major project with Iran's nuclear agency, said the agency's chief, Vice President Ali Akbar Salehi, though he did not give specifics.

"Undoubtedly, the hand of the Zionist regime and Western governments is involved in the assassination," Ahmadinejad told a press conference. He said the attack would not hamper the nuclear program.

Salehi, who was a former teacher of the slain scientist, wept as he went on state TV later to talk of the killing. "They (Iran's enemies) are mistaken if think they can shake us," he said.

Asked about the Iranian accusations, Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev said Israel did not comment on such matters. In Washington, U.S. State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said, "We decry acts of terrorism, wherever they occur. And beyond that, we do not have any information on what happened."

Meanwhile, Ahmadinejad also acknowledged for the first time that a computer worm affected centrifuges in Iran's uranium enrichment program, which the United Nations has demanded Tehran halt.

Iran has previously acknowledged discovering the Stuxnet worm, which experts say is calibrated to destroy centrifuges by causing them to spin out of control, at its nuclear facilities. But Iranian officials — including Salehi — said it was discovered and neutralized before it could cause any damage, and they accused the West of trying to sabotage Iran's program.

But Ahmadinejad told reporters, "They managed to create problems for a limited number of our centrifuges through the software ... installed on electronic parts. But this (virus) was discovered and the problem was resolved."

He said Iranian experts had learned from the attempt and "this became an experience that stops the path for (sabotage) forever."

Earlier in November, U.N. inspectors found Iran's enrichment program temporarily shut down, according to a recent report by the U.N. nuclear watchdog. The length and cause of the shutdown were not known, but speculation fell on Stuxnet.

Iran's enrichment program is of international concern because the process can create both fuel for an electricity-generating reactor and nuclear warhead material. Iran insists it wants to enrich only to run a nuclear reactor network.

The latest attacks come a day after the release of internal U.S. State Department memos by the whistle-blower website WikiLeaks, including several that vividly detail Arab fears over Iran's nuclear program. In some memos, U.S. diplomats say Arab leaders advocated a U.S.-led attack on Iranian nuclear facilities.

Ahmadinejad dismissed the leaks as "mischief" aimed at damaging Tehran's ties with the Arab world.

Monday's bombings bore close similarities to another in January that killed Tehran University professor Masoud Ali Mohammadi, a senior physics professor. He was killed when a bomb-rigged motorcycle exploded near his car as he was about to leave for work.

In 2007, state TV reported that nuclear scientist, Ardeshir Hosseinpour, died from gas poisoning. A one-week delay in the reporting of his death prompted speculation about the cause, including that Israel's Mossad spy agency was to blame.

There are several active armed groups that oppose Iran's ruling clerics, but it's unclear whether they could have carried out the apparently coordinated bombings in the capital. Most anti-government violence in recent years has been isolated to Iran's provinces such the border with Pakistan where Sunni rebels are active and the western mountains near Iraq where Kurdish separatists operate.

Tehran police chief Hossein Sajednia said no one has been arrested in connection with Monday's attack and no one has so far claimed responsibility.

The bombings both took place in the morning, in locations in north and northeast Tehran that lie about a 15-minute drive apart, without traffic. There were conflicting reports on what time each attack took place.

The slain scientist, Shahriari, was a member of the nuclear engineering faculty at Shahid Beheshti University in Tehran and cooperated with the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, said Salehi, who heads the organization.

"He was involved in one of the big AEOI projects, which is a source of pride for the Iranian nation," Salehi said, according to IRNA, without giving any details on the project. The AEOI is in charge of Iran's nuclear activities, including its uranium enrichment program.

A pro-government website, mashreghnews.ir, said the wounded scientist, Abbasi, is a Revolutionary Guard member who is a laser expert at Iran's Defense Ministry and one of few top Iranian specialists in nuclear isotope separation — a process needed for a range of purposes, from producing enriched uranium fuel for a reactor, to manufacturing medical isotopes to producing a bomb.
 
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The NYTimes is running a tell-all on stuxnet today.

Among their claims:

Stuxnet was a joint venture between Siemens and the US courtesy of the Idaho National Labs.

Bush 43 ordered the program.

The virus is so sophisticated, it lay dormant and only monitored the networked systems until they had reached a predetermined cumulative level of development. Then it activated. It even is known to have brought down the exact number of systems it was designed to target, 984.

The linchpin to the program was Israel's testing at their Dimona facility, where they somehow had managed to acquire the same Pakistani-built centrifuges the Iranians are using.

But nowhere does it address the who and the how of the Iranian's contracting the virus. On that account, I'd say it's pretty obvious the Israelis role wasn't limited to testing.
 
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Well, if the government money dries up, it seems like the programmers could get a fat contract from Microsoft... Imagine a Windows that doesn't crash!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRS_Ranger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Imagine a Windows that doesn't crash! </div></div>

Now that's just science fiction there
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Just Think
If Iran used Apple software...we could be nuclear toast....
 
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Heard on Fox News this morning that the virus overspun the Iranian centrifuges, causing them to sling themselves apart. While this was happening, it lied to the monitoring instruments and told them they were operating at normal RPMs.

Back in the 1960s, when the US caught wind of the Israelis starting a nuclear research program, the Israelis insisted it was for purely peaceful purposes. In the interest of controlling nuclear proliferation, the US sent inspectors to this same Dimona facility to confirm there was no bomb research going on there. In advance of their arrival, the Israelis bricked up the corridors and elevators that would have given them access to the incriminating machinery and they covered the real control panels with fake ones with all the right dials showing all the right indications to convince experienced nuclear engineers that they only were doing peaceful research. They're awfully good at making you think you're seeing what they want you to.

"These aren't the droids we're looking for. You can go about your business. Move along."
 
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Just wait until the Iranians fugure out how to pull that software out and send it back. I think it's pretty funne we can do stuff like that to the Iranians but we lack the sac to just go over there and beat the living snot out of them
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ACK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For those who are interested in cyberwarfare this is an interesting "emagazine"
Defence Technology International this is the latest issue.

A cyber attack reminds me of WW2 secret weapons. Radar countermeasures (chaff) was known however neither side was eager to use it else divulge its secrets.


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Monumentally scary stuff. An Iranian foreign minister was interviewed on CNN yesterday. He stated that Iran believed that the US was in part responsible for the attack due to "verified papers". The internet is a two way street and Iranian programmers(and Chinese, North Korean, etc.) are working right now on programs to attack US infrastructure as well as military and civilian sites.

Everybody better head off to Home Depot to buy a back up generator for when the power nation wide goes out.
 
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Good to see that the INL might actually be contributing something to society other than the national debt...
 
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Computer expert says US behind Stuxnet worm
Mar 3 03:41 PM US/Eastern

A German computer security expert said Thursday he believes the United States and Israel's Mossad unleashed the malicious Stuxnet worm on Iran's nuclear program.

"My opinion is that the Mossad is involved," Ralph Langner said while discussing his in-depth Stuxnet analysis at a prestigious TED conference in the Southern California city of Long Beach.

"But, the leading source is not Israel... There is only one leading source, and that is the United States."

There has been widespread speculation Israel was behind the Stuxnet worm that has attacked computers in Iran, and Tehran has blamed the Jewish state and the United States for the killing of two nuclear scientists in November and January.

"The idea behind Stuxnet computer worm is really quite simple," Langner said. "We don't want Iran to get the bomb."

The malicious code was crafted to stealthily take control of valves and rotors at an Iranian nuclear plant, according to Langner.

"It was engineered by people who obviously had inside information," he explained. "They probably also knew the shoe size of the operator."

Stuxnet targets computer control systems made by German industrial giant Siemens and commonly used to manage water supplies, oil rigs, power plants and other critical infrastructure.

"The idea here is to circumvent digital data systems, so the human operator could not get there fast enough," Langner said.

"When digital safety systems are compromised, really bad things can happen -- your plant can blow up.

Most Stuxnet infections have been discovered in Iran, giving rise to speculation it was intended to sabotage nuclear facilities there.

The New York Times reported in January that US and Israeli intelligence services collaborated to develop the computer worm to sabotage Iran's efforts to make a nuclear bomb.
 
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Very Interesting..........
 
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I think what goes around comes around. This is opening Pandora's box in an area we are far more dependant on computer systems operating without massive virus attacks.

While we specific operations to target, like the power plant, 'they' have our entire economy as their target. Their goal isnt to destroy us but to cripple us financially so we cease interfering in their part of the world.

I dont think we want to drag Russia or China into this by crossover infection of their systems. WW1 was started by careless application of force by a huge power on a minor one.

Be interesting to see if the splashover stirs retaliation.

While my dad loved to declare we need to go kick their ass everytime someone doesnt do what we want I think our days of unbridled military action are at an end. We owe too many nations too much money, have a budget hawks demanding everything be 'paid for' before spending any money.

We live in interesting times.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: notquiteright</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think what goes around comes around. This is opening Pandora's box in an area we are far more dependant on computer systems operating without massive virus attacks....</div></div>
Yeah, if we're using Siemens software to control Pakistani-built knock-offs of Dutch centrifuges, I guess we're screwed, huh?
 
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Apr 25 07:38 AM US/Eastern
<span style="font-size: 14pt">Second computer worm 'hits Iran'</span>

Iran has been hit with new malicious software as part of cyber attacks against the country, a military officer told Mehr news agency on Monday without specifying the target.

"Certain characteristics about the 'Stars' virus have been identified, including that it is compatible with the (targeted) system," Gholam Reza Jalali, commander of the Iranian civil defence organisation, told the agency.

"In the initial stage, the damage is low and it is likely to be mistaken for governmental executable files," Jalali said, adding that Iranian experts were still investigating the full scope of the malware's abilities.

He did not say what kind of equipment the virus was targeting or when and how it had been spotted.

Tehran was hit with another computer worm, "Stuxnet," last year, reportedly designed to hurt the Islamic republic's controversial nuclear programme.

Iran has accused arch-foes Washington and Israel of launching Stuxnet, which was publicly identified last June and reportedly mutated and infected at least 30,000 computerised industrial equipment in the following months.

In December, Iran implicitly admitted its uranium enrichment plant in the central city of Natanz, which is regularly inspected by the UN nuclear watchdog, had been the victim of the worm.

Jalali urged the foreign ministry to take appropriate measures amid the ongoing "cyber attacks" against Iran, and said efforts to contain Stuxnet were still ongoing, Mehr reported.

"Confronting the Stuxnet virus does not mean that the threat has been fully removed, since viruses have a certain life span and it is possible that they continue their activity in a different form," he said.

Computer security firm Symantec said in November that Stuxnet might have been designed to disrupt the motors that power gas centrifuges used to enrich uranium -- the most controversial work of Tehran's nuclear programme.

Iran's atomic ambitions are at the heart of a conflict between Tehran and the West, which accuses the Islamic republic of seeking to develop a weapons capability under the guise of a civilian nuclear drive.

Tehran vehemently denies the charges.
 
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Still old news.

I am about to graduate with my Information Systems Security certs and we've studied these a tad...

It's the perfect solution, no boots on the ground, no bombs, just good old fashioned inginuity!

I wrote a piece for a company back in 2000, designed to track a user to be used incourt prosecuting him for stealing commpany secrets. We got him and my app "SPYDER" worked like a champ, gave all the evidence of the machine it was targeting and held up in court.


This particular virus is actually a root kit, undetectable by virus scanners. If you recall that a few years ago SONY was putting root kits on peoples systems to monitor which music they burned.

Tiz the way of the future, which is why I am hoping my experience and certs will get me a nice salary when I get back to work. I'd love to write these tools for the NSA...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still old news.

I am about to graduate with my Information Systems Security certs and we've studied these a tad...

It's the perfect solution, no boots on the ground, no bombs, just good old fashioned inginuity!

I wrote a piece for a company back in 2000, designed to track a user to be used incourt prosecuting him for stealing commpany secrets. We got him and my app "SPYDER" worked like a champ, gave all the evidence of the machine it was targeting and held up in court.


This particular virus is actually a root kit, undetectable by virus scanners. If you recall that a few years ago SONY was putting root kits on peoples systems to monitor which music they burned.

Tiz the way of the future, which is why I am hoping my experience and certs will get me a nice salary when I get back to work. I'd love to write these tools for the NSA...

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Unless you've been in Iran in the last couple of days, you don't know any more than any of the rest of us what this virus is.
 
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Specifically what it is, not too many people in the world will know.

The general idea of it and how to hide a virus - root kit - you'd be stupid to use anything else.

Root kit onto the USB drive, leave them laying around in a close town to the reactor, scientist picks it up, uses his laptop, goes to work , etc etc.


That's exactly what happened with the first one, so it's not likely to have changed. Although one would assume Iran would have a "Fool me once" attitude LOL

Here's a basic definitly of what a rootkit is and how it works.

As you can see it can affect hardware, unlike most viruses and trojans/malware.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit

 
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Now <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">this</span></span> looks suspicious.

<span style="font-size: 14pt">Nuclear experts killed in Russia plane crash helped design Iran facility</span>

<span style="font-weight: bold">The five Russian scientists were among 44 killed earlier this week; no official investigation of foul play has been opened, though Iranian nuclear experts have in the past been involved in similar accidents.</span>

By Amir Oren

The five nuclear experts killed in a plane crash in northern Russia earlier this week had assisted in the design of an Iranian atomic facility, security sources in Russia said on Thursday.

The five Russian experts were among the 44 passengers killed when the Tupolev-134 plane broke up and caught fire on landing outside the northern city of Petrozavodsk on Monday.

The experts - who included lead designers Sergei Rizhov, Gennadi Benyok, Nicolai Tronov and Russia's top nuclear technological experts, Andrei Tropinov - worked at Bushehr after the contract for the plant's construction passed from the German Siemens company to Russian hands.

The five were employed at the Hydropress factory, a member of Russia's state nuclear corporation, and one of the main companies to contract for the Bushehr construction.

The sources said that the death of the scientists is a great blow to the Russian nuclear industry.

The experts were tasked with completing construction of the plant and ensuring that it would be able to survive an earthquake.

According to the sources, although <span style="text-decoration: underline">Iranian nuclear scientists have in the past been involved in unexplained accidents and plane crashes</span>, there is no official suspicion of foul play. Investigators are probing human error and technical malfunction as the causes of the crash.
 
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Fred-
we dont use German or Paki equipt, we use Chinese crap. Even our domesticly designed controls have chinese major components.

Wonder just how willing China are to help the less friendly oil nations of the world cope with their hegemon problem?

Onething making the Chinese effort alot easier is they dont need to secret squirrel the specs to the computer operated control systems an angry Iranian wants targeted.

US Corporations have sent the specs to China in order to have the parts built!

Oh about the russian plane crash- who would kill so many civilians to get 5 scientists?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: notquiteright</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh about the russian plane crash- who would kill so many civilians to get 5 scientists? </div></div>

Israel?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: notquiteright</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh about the russian plane crash- who would kill so many civilians to get 5 scientists? </div></div>

I wouldn't think twice!!!
 
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Just had a training course for Pcs7, Siemens control system. Instructor told us that they do not do business with Iran, and they got it off the black market.

The software specifically targeted the centrifuges, and the person who wrote it must have been very very familiar with Siemens PCS7 Controllers. Im am betting it was a US Govt/Siemens group effort.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 4ester</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...Im am betting it was a US Govt/Siemens group effort. </div></div>
The creators were identified five months and 22 posts ago.