Those numbers are for 50m...Were these group sizes at 50m or 100m?
Those numbers are for 50m...Were these group sizes at 50m or 100m?
Ok, you're right, but you guys have been quiet today so I had to wake you up and get the curiosity stirred a bit.
First, the Muller barrels I have on-hand are marked A and B, both are 5R and both are 16 twist. As agreed, Dan and Paul are keeping it a secret which ones are cut and which are button. Barrels C and D are enroute.
As I do with all projects, I create an outline that I test against and the V-22S project as it relates to BR and F-Class is no different. Parallel to the outline is a control. So, I've logged the findings of slugging barrels A & B today and I know where I'm going to cut them. I've also developed a theory about whether they're cut or button, but I won't focus on that as the outcome has to be results driven.
Now that all that's out of the way, what I see today is a lot of variation in the bore of both Muller blanks and they'll be cut at differing lengths, whereas the Vudoo/Ace barrels are as they've been from the beginning; incredibly consistent along the length of the bore.
To be continued fellas and thanks for letting me mess with you a little today .
MB
I assume that we will get a equally honest and through report on Muller barrels "C" and "D". ???
Sorry, good question. These results were for 50M.Were these group sizes at 50m or 100m?
Good catch. The groups sizes are edge to edge, not center to center. Thanks for catching my error!I thought the test center measured outside to outside, not center to center?
I have had some of my best groups with cheap eley and CCI SV (but only after 1000 or so rounds to loosen it up.) Definitely feel the lead engaging. A buddy's was far too tight. He sent it back for inspection. I hope it's a shooter when it returnsI've read the V22 chamber was designed fo SK/Lapua ammo. I think Eley and CCI SV was the longest overall length of any bullet I measured, might explain why it's hard to close the bolt. It's probably pushing the lead into the rifling.
No sir, sorry for the confusion, but they did not slug well. My assessment was that A&B are button, which was confirmed via email from Muller.I’m confused. Barrels A and B slugged well but didn’t shoot Lapua? You still don’t know if they were button or cut rifled?
Just ordered the vudoo
Black 20" mtu action
Tt diamond trigger
Black mdt acc chassis
Mdt vertical grip
3 extra mags
5-50 delta Stryker scope
Burris xtr sig rings
Now just have a 6 month wait may change the stock out for a blue acc chassis
Will start to stock up on some ammo 500~1000 of each of the known good shooters. Prolly 5000 rounds total. I already have 15000 Cci and other non ideal v22 22lr.
Misses even approved it as she was happy with the price she heard over the phone but it was only the 10% deposit
what part takes 6 mo? Is barrel threaded?
Ok trying to decide..ax or the JP. On the pictures it looks like the barrel on the JP is not centered floating with the hand guards? Anyone confirm if that is correct or not. Planning to put a larger can on rifle (9mm) for the looks, but if it isn’t centered that would make my OCD tick off forever...
FWIW I shoot mine with whatever the chassis manufacturer recommends. My bravo was 65in/lb and my AIAX is 53in/lbs. accuracy remained the same between the two chassis’sHas anyone mucked with torque settings on their Vudoos? I finally got out to shoot for the first time yesterday in 2 months. First shots through the Vudoo that I've dry fired a few thousand times at home.
I had 1 mag that I bought used that cycled very cleanly and smoothly. I had one brand new mag that had a few hitches where it took a bit more effort to get the round out of the mag and cycle. I am guessing that'll break-in over time.
I am running my Vudoo in an MDT ACC at 55 in/lbs. Is the Vudoo susceptible to torque changes kind of like the CZ's and Tikka's where people do torque testing from 20-60in/lbs? Just curious. I didn't have much time to shoot and don't know when I'll get out again. Got 100 rounds down it at 25, 65, 100, and 200 with my tested lot of SK+.
Has anyone mucked with torque settings on their Vudoos? I finally got out to shoot for the first time yesterday in 2 months. First shots through the Vudoo that I've dry fired a few thousand times at home.
I had 1 mag that I bought used that cycled very cleanly and smoothly. I had one brand new mag that had a few hitches where it took a bit more effort to get the round out of the mag and cycle. I am guessing that'll break-in over time.
I am running my Vudoo in an MDT ACC at 55 in/lbs. Is the Vudoo susceptible to torque changes kind of like the CZ's and Tikka's where people do torque testing from 20-60in/lbs? Just curious. I didn't have much time to shoot and don't know when I'll get out again. Got 100 rounds down it at 25, 65, 100, and 200 with my tested lot of SK+.
In the Lapua Test Center video, he states they use 23 inch lbs. as that's what they like. So, I use 25.
If anyone has a better recommendation for a Bravo chassis, I'm listening. But honestly I can't complain and that's the most tested data available.
That's pretty light. Bravo says 65/45 on their site. Have you tried that?
Yeh I have to significantly lift my rifle to swap mags while in prone position... but hey no more reloading in those 12 round stages Also for NRL22's offhand shooting, it feels great resting that magazine in my palm. Finally I feel stable with my elbow to hip connection.That's a huge bitch!
sounds rite to me, thanks for infoI think it's more dependant on the bedding surface. If you're action sits in the chassis or bedding without stress I think it doesn't matter or doesn't matter nearly as much. Back in the day of wood stocks without bedding I think is where the tuning comes from. Manners is different because of the v block bedding and the way the tang is supported which is why the rear gets a lighter torque. I think if you bed your stock or chassis it will be a lot less sensitive to torque values and you're using an abundance of torque to keep the screws from loosening and falling out. My Vudoo had just a little bit of stress in the inlet of the MPA it was in and consequently I put a little less torque on the rear screw. But the RimX doesn't have any stress in the same chassis. And they both shoot the same out of the same chassis with the same scope, trigger, and ammo. Maybe just a little bit of edge goes to the second barreled action.
The best way I have found to see if you're action has any stress is to stand the rifle up vertically on the butt. Loosen both action screws. Then tighten the rear screw. Then, while watching the barrel in relation to the forend, tighten the front action screw and watch for any movement. If tightening the screw sucks the action into the chassis or stock it's torquing the action to do so. You can find the engagement point in the screw where within half a turn it's releasing or pulling the action in that torque. And then you can rotate your wrench back and forth and watch your barrel telegraph the movement of the action torquing. If there's no stress or torquing/ flexing of the action Id just tighten them both to 60'ish.
^^^^THIS. I don’t give torque settings much thought as long as the stock/chassis is of higher quality.Ive shot my V22 in both a MDT XRS and XLR Envy and while I own all the fancy torque wrenches Ive found it makes no different on accuracy for me. I drop my V22 into both of them, hand tighten it with my handled allen T wrench and go shoot. It obviously hasnt made a difference as I just shot a 6x5 measuring .206". As mentioned above, its a LOT less important these days with new chassis and aluminum bedding blocks in them.
I'll take this as a positive sign that 15 rounders are shipping. I've had 2 on order for some time.
^^^^THIS. I don’t give torque settings much thought as long as the stock/chassis is of higher quality.
MB
Hi, sorry if this was recently covered and I missed it, things have been a little hectic. Have a new Vudoo that should be here soon, trying to make sure I have all my gear ahead of time. Any idea when the new Vudoo bore guide will be available? Also, I was planning on getting a Bore Tech rod, wondering what caliber rod for the V22?
Thanks for the help
I completed the design of the new Bore Guide and approved manufacturing for BoreTech to get started. I'm really close to receiving the first articles and once I've signed off, they'll be punching them out. We'll stock them here at Vudoo and BoreTech will be offering them as part of the necessary cleaning supplies for your Vudoo.Hi, sorry if this was recently covered and I missed it, things have been a little hectic. Have a new Vudoo that should be here soon, trying to make sure I have all my gear ahead of time. Any idea when the new Vudoo bore guide will be available? Also, I was planning on getting a Bore Tech rod, wondering what caliber rod for the V22?
Thanks for the help
the bore guide on Vudoos website works great! I bought the Dewy 20cal Coated rod and it works perfect with the bore guide.
Rob, is that enough? I remember...Nice to see the 15 rounders are hitting the streets! @NOMAD happy days!!!
Thank you, I'll be on the look out for them.I completed the design of the new Bore Guide and approved manufacturing for BoreTech to get started. I'm really close to receiving the first articles and once I've signed off, they'll be punching them out. We'll stock them here at Vudoo and BoreTech will be offering them as part of the necessary cleaning supplies for your Vudoo.
The new Vudoo/BoreTech guide will be compatible with Gens 1, 2 and 3, right and left hand versions. They'll also work if you have a single shot adapter in place, but you'll need a smaller diameter rod to clear the adapter.
MB
The one with length Tbh I don’t know but can let you know via pm this evening after I get home lolWhat length?
What is different on the new design?I completed the design of the new Bore Guide and approved manufacturing for BoreTech to get started. I'm really close to receiving the first articles and once I've signed off, they'll be punching them out. We'll stock them here at Vudoo and BoreTech will be offering them as part of the necessary cleaning supplies for your Vudoo.
The new Vudoo/BoreTech guide will be compatible with Gens 1, 2 and 3, right and left hand versions. They'll also work if you have a single shot adapter in place, but you'll need a smaller diameter rod to clear the adapter.
MB
Shot my Vudoo indoors today for the first time since this bullshit rona virus shut down the range and it was splendid! Shot two practice groups at 50yd to warm up (not pictured) and then shot at the little Instagram logo for a 0.3” group at 50yds (Ballistic-X doesn’t give you the option for 50yd yet). Took it out to 100yds after that and shot the middle square 10times for a 0.67” group. All shot with Center X. This Proof carbon barrel has exceeded my expectations fully!
Thanks man!!! I couldn’t believe it when I shot it to be honest hahaThat 10 round group in the 0.3 has got to be the best 22LR group that I've ever seen! You have got to be psyched with that! Congratulations!
I prefer the 10rd groups for 22 as it’s a hell of a challenge to get a good 10rd group. I was extremely surprised I managed to pull it off! Thank you!0.67 at 100 yards is awesome. Nice shooting. Even better when you shot a 10 shot group.