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Was the 75y.o. in Buffalo faking?

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I've seen a few people with head trauma bad enough to bleed from the ears, but I've never seen it happen instantly after impact.
Was it a set-up to spark outrage?

 
How did he fake it?

Agreed its fast and furious bleeding, kind of disturbing,.

If they had it to do over again......just like the central Pacific strategy....bypass that which can be by passed and move on to better targets.

Wish they had of walked around him and made him impotent.

Perhaps have someone from the search team frisk him to ensure he is not a threat in the rear.
 
How did he fake it?

Agreed its fast and furious bleeding, kind of disturbing,.

If they had it to do over again......just like the central Pacific strategy....bypass that which can be by passed and move on to better targets.

Wish they had of walked around him and made him impotent.

Perhaps have someone from the search team frisk him to ensure he is not a threat in the rear.

Watch the video. It shows what looks like a tube running down his back, under his shirt. It also shows an extra "strap" on his mask, right by his ear.
 
Who knows.
At that age, > 55, even ground level falls have lethal consequences per ATLS protocol. Factor in likely a-coags, 10% loss brain mass by 70 yoa with feeder vessel stretching, pre-existing disease etc. etc. I'm 61 and this year decided to stop jumping to the ground from my 5 foot retaining wall; ligaments, tibial plateaus. His very presence at the scene, much less in the front-line action has many likely outcomes, none of which are positive. Poor decision making attributable to loss of gray matter; himself and his youthful acolytes. Stupid games = stupid prizes.
 
Watch the video. It shows what looks like a tube running down his back, under his shirt. It also shows an extra "strap" on his mask, right by his ear.


Ill admit I watched the video after my post and saw that theory.

How many peeps have to be silenced to make that work.

Cops are not going to be in on it and Im guessing before EMS arrived at least one cop examined him, would have saw the tube and would have sent him on his way.

EMS would have to have been involved.

There is a hospital currently treating him.

Lots of peeps otherwise motivated to out him would have to be keeping silent to his charade.

Stranger things have happened I guess.
 
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Ill admit I watched the video after my post and saw that theory.

How many peeps have to be silenced to make that work.

Him and the cameraman.

Cops are not going to be in on it and Im guessing before EMS arrived at least one cop examined him, would have saw the tube and would have sent him on his way.

EMS would have to have been involved.

There is a hospital currently treating him.

Lots of peeps otherwise motivated to out him would have to be keeping silent to his charade.

Stranger things have happened I guess.

HIPAA laws prevent medical personnel from talking.
 
Easily possible.
More so with a hit to the occiput in a septuagenarian.
Fall looks like it was an NBA type of “flop”. The injury probably isnt faked as a slight bump can do a lot.

As a foil hat wearer myself, I suggest you go bark up another skirt, tree, or whatever.
 
Yes. He's a well known leftist.

Watch the video, he's scanning their person with his cell phone and potential ID for doxing and possibly capturing radio Freq's and encryption for later hacking by those that know what they're doing. They're are apps for that.
 
Ill admit I watched the video after my post and saw that theory.

How many peeps have to be silenced to make that work.

Cops are not going to be in on it and Im guessing before EMS arrived at least one cop examined him, would have saw the tube and would have sent him on his way.

EMS would have to have been involved.

There is a hospital currently treating him.

Lots of peeps otherwise motivated to out him would have to be keeping silent to his charade.

Stranger things have happened I guess.

All they have to do is capture the video and post it online to go viral. The damage is done before anyone can say he was faking. The lie spreads and the leftist strategy is that more people will hear and believe the lie than the truth because they control most of the media.
 
Im guessing the guy is a total zero, intent on living his late 60s protesting past.

Still though Im skeptical of the fake blood, everyone giving him a pass regarding his faking the injury.

If a medical condition is determined to be fake there would seem to be no HIPAA protection for discussing a condition that was not a condition.
 
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All they have to do is capture the video and post it online to go viral. The damage is done before anyone can say he was faking. The lie spreads and the leftist strategy is that more people will hear and believe the lie than the truth because they control most of the media.


Trump has the bully pulpit...

If the info is there he can get it out.
 
he had to delete his cop hating social media rants.
 
Trump has the bully pulpit...

If the info is there he can get it out.
In my opinion the bully pulpit is no longer a thing for Republican presidents. The main news outlets will play whatever sound bites they want and edit them how they want. Then they have a panel of opinion givers quote whatever they are handed down from on high.

The low information voters probably never tuned in to an actual presidential address to hear the whole thing.
 
I assumed it was staged to make the cops look bad and it worked , but who knows old people fall down and go boom
 
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There is a video I saw that broke down this incident. The elderly man was waving his phone over the officers in an attempt to gather their phone information from the non contact transfer most phones can do now. When the man is on the ground the blood appears to be coming from in front of his ear, and not actually from the ear. If I can find thr video, watch the gentleman's left hand....seems he has something in it and he is squeezing it? He seems to be awfully still and plank like for someone who just "smashed his skull". I'm no medical guy but wouldn't that type of injury cause you to have seizures and limb twitching....not stiff as a board?

There are also photos of this individual a few minutes after being put on the gurney sitting up and talking on his cell phone.


I can locate the video, though it is from infowars......I know I know....but it's worth a watch
 
Jesus titty fucking christ you fucking twats. The injury is very real that dude is utterly fucked, my friend is one of the EMT's who brought the guy in.
 
There is a video I saw that broke down this incident. The elderly man was waving his phone over the officers in an attempt to gather their phone information from the non contact transfer most phones can do now. When the man is on the ground the blood appears to be coming from in front of his ear, and not actually from the ear. If I can find thr video, watch the gentleman's left hand....seems he has something in it and he is squeezing it? He seems to be awfully still and plank like for someone who just "smashed his skull". I'm no medical guy but wouldn't that type of injury cause you to have seizures and limb twitching....not stiff as a board?

There are also photos of this individual a few minutes after being put on the gurney sitting up and talking on his cell phone.


I can locate the video, though it is from infowars......I know I know....but it's worth a watch
I saw some things showing a tube running from his mask towards the ears. I never really looked into it personally.
 
He's an older guy. Likely on blood thinners of some sort.

Being on them myself I can tell you, bleeding happens fast when a decent cut is made.
 
The police were telling everyone to move. Dumb fuck decided to get in their personal space and started getting all twitchy and grabby. Twenty years earlier he may have been able to regain his footing. But alas old dumb fuck ain't nearly as nimble as he was.
 
I believe the injury itself was real, but I believe the stumble/fall itself was staged to look worse than it was and the old guy lost his balance for real in the process and fucked himself.
 
Yes. He's a well known leftist.

Watch the video, he's scanning their person with his cell phone and potential ID for doxing and possibly capturing radio Freq's and encryption for later hacking by those that know what they're doing. They're are apps for that.

So we're ok with the idea that listening to RF comms is illegal and justification for use of force? Better be careful with supporting that sort of precedent.
 
What the actual Fuck are you talking about?? I'm stating fact not supporting it.

Reading comprehension, learn it.

ETA: Yes my concern is about DOXing and PII and putting families in danger, but also about RF...It's not about listening in the normal sense, the apps can allow RF Frequency and Encryption analysis which creates a larger safety issue for all LEO's in the area.
 
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Jesus titty fucking christ you fucking twats. The injury is very real that dude is utterly fucked, my friend is one of the EMT's who brought the guy in.

Jesus tity fucking christ is right....take a god damn chill pull or smoke a bowl! For fucks sake

What's wrong with listening to ALL EXPLINATIONS? Listening to a single side is what gets people into trouble. Nobody should take anything at face value. If the media today would be a little bit impartial, maybe just maybe people would be included to believe them.


So real question then.....why was this man talking on a phone no more than 2 minutes after being placed on the gurneys at the back of the ambulance? Wouldn't a head trauma like this one have a clear liquid or lighter colord blood? Not the dark red arterial colored blood?

Again not a medical person at all, which is why I asked in the first place. Things the media have been pushing for many years now have almost always been proven false a few days later.

Have you medic buddy who treated this individual come on and tell his side of things. Seems everyone wants to get their "story" out about all of this shit.....so now would be his time to shine and set things right
 
So we're ok with the idea that listening to RF comms is illegal and justification for use of force? Better be careful with supporting that sort of precedent.

Would seem to most he was talking about the doxing of the individuals. Thus learning about their family's....and making them targets for the other radicals.
 
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Jesus tity fucking christ is right....take a god damn chill pull or smoke a bowl! For fucks sake

What's wrong with listening to ALL EXPLINATIONS? Listening to a single side is what gets people into trouble. Nobody should take anything at face value. If the media today would be a little bit impartial, maybe just maybe people would be included to believe them.


So real question then.....why was this man talking on a phone no more than 2 minutes after being placed on the gurneys at the back of the ambulance? Wouldn't a head trauma like this one have a clear liquid or lighter colord blood? Not the dark red arterial colored blood?

Again not a medical person at all, which is why I asked in the first place. Things the media have been pushing for many years now have almost always been proven false a few days later.

Have you medic buddy who treated this individual come on and tell his side of things. Seems everyone wants to get their "story" out about all of this shit.....so now would be his time to shine and set things right
Becasue there are explanations and there is arguing with fucking idiots.
Becasue you can have mutiple leading professionals and leaders in their respective fields and eye witnesses explain things and right after you are going to have some greasy sweaty basement dweller with semen encrusted waifu pillow come out screaming "jet fuel doesnt melt steel beams!".
 
Would seem to most he was talking about the doxing of the individuals. Thus learning about their family's....and making them targets for the other radicals.

Yes that was my key concern from a PII and family members being endangered. But also the possibility to capture the RF signal and encryption for later analysis endangering all other LEO's in the immediate area.
 
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Becasue there are explanations and there is arguing with fucking idiots.
Becasue you can have mutiple leading professionals and leaders in their respective fields and eye witnesses explain things and right after you are going to have some greasy sweaty basement dweller with semen encrusted waifu pillow come out screaming "jet fuel doesnt melt steel beams!".


Explain to us the professional in this matter?

Please show me where I said anything Jones said was credible? Quit looking to deep, it only makes you look stupid. Funny how when someone mentions infowars people loose their shit. Lol
 
I saw on One America News where they have some kind of electronic device wired to their cell phones to pick up police radios to be able to monitor them and they said it works by waving your cell phone near the radio and that is exactly what he is doing I don’t know it seem like a lot of blood I’m not sure how it could be fake but he is definitely not innocent
 
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Not thinking anyone here said it was staged or fake. But with these people and the media constantly lying it is hard to believe anyone. Look at the fake nurses protesting, fake cops making things up, fake media constantly blasting garbage. Makes sense to question what the "media" tells you, no matter who it comes from.

That's why I was asking specific questions. Would be nice to hear from a medical professional on the matter. Either way the old man was told to back off and he didnt. Play stupid games you win stupid prizes, there is no age limit.
 
Not thinking anyone here said it was staged or fake. But with these people and the media constantly lying it is hard to believe anyone. Look at the fake nurses protesting, fake cops making things up, fake media constantly blasting garbage. Makes sense to question what the "media" tells you, no matter who it comes from.

That's why I was asking specific questions. Would be nice to hear from a medical professional on the matter. Either way the old man was told to back off and he didnt. Play stupid games you win stupid prizes, there is no age limit.


Agreed in regards to your skepticism.

Not saying faking the injury couldnt happen.

Just thinking the whole entire thing would have to be faked - fake cops, fake responders, fake reporters - in order to so tightly control the information.

Wouldnt put it past them but I dont think they fear us enough right now to go there.

The whole thing right now is all part of CWII - Covid and race war - all BS, and we are so fucking stupid to swallow it.

Absolutely no balls - put the mask on and cower.

Edit - not calling out individuals - its a societal thing, we have lost our edge and our dull senses are their best offense.
 
In my opinion the bully pulpit is no longer a thing for Republican presidents. The main news outlets will play whatever sound bites they want and edit them how they want. Then they have a panel of opinion givers quote whatever they are handed down from on high.

The low information voters probably never tuned in to an actual presidential address to hear the whole thing.
You do realize that the main stream media isn't the only way for the President to get his voice out, do you?
 
That dumb fuck was making contact and jerking around in a high pressure situation. I think shoving that SOB was a totally appropriate use of force. Maybe if the started hitting him with their sticks it would have been excessive, but maybe not.
He’s a POS and the city needs to fight all the way on that one.
 
You do realize that the main stream media isn't the only way for the President to get his voice out, do you?

There have never been more ways for anyone - including the President - to communicate directly with the masses. And yet Trump chooses Twitter, which is the dumbest fucking way to communicate any rational thought.

Hire some millennials from the podcasting world, get some YouTube influencers on the staff, and get the president's message out in a controlled and easily-digestable fashion. Go find the next Bill Simmons and build out a while network. Or at the very least, get the president to sit down for an interview with Joe Rogan, Fan Bongino, Colion Noir, or about a bazillion other famous-on-the-internet people of whom I'm completely unaware because I am uncool. And alright, there is a risk that he goes off-message and says a bunch of stuff that is completely retarded. But that's not the fault of the communication medium.

Regardless of the technique employed, enough with the bitching that the president "can't get his message out".
 
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So, is it entirely beyond the scope of reality for a old activist to stage and or
while staging a conflict get more than bargained for?
If it has passed anyone's(poster on this thread) attention that most of the
aunt tiffa/"socialists"/hard core dems would do this to create a narrative
you need to quit hitting the snooze button.

R
 
I don't think it's wrong to question his motives or believe this was a publicity tactic, but whether he intended to stage something for the media or not is almost irrelevant, because he was invading the personal space of police officers IN RIOT GEAR ADVANCING TO PROTECT LIVES AND PROPERTY!!!

Shoving him away was the least amount of force necessary. In the OPs video he shoves him at :31, and if you stop it you can see that his arm is almost straight. In other words, he's not shot-putting the commie, he's just shoving him back, and not even very hard for the exaggerated, soccer fall the idiot takes.

This is a gigantic nothing, and if you're outraged by this Geroge Floyd is probably your hero and a greater civil rights advocate than Martin Luther King (hat tip Joe Biden).