WTF over?
I bought 500 of these awhile back. I only loaded and shot about 100 of them because they had horrible accuracy. I figured out why. The weights were all over.
So I sort them by weight and get them down to .5gr groups. I throw them in the cabinet and forget about them. Now with components being tight I pull them out and figure they can work for some "fast shooting" drill where bughole accuracy is not required.
I FL Resize from FGMM once fired brass, charge it and seat the bullets to 2.80" so I can magazine load them. I load up 50.
I go out to the range today and run through a dot drill with my FGMM clone load (168 SMK's). They work flawlessly. I decide to switch over to the crap loads to play with the 380 yard gong since a 4 MOA error will still have me on it. I pop open the box and it looks like a jagged mountain peak. About half of the rounds had setback. I ran ten that were still at 2.80" and they shot fine (all on target with reasonable accuracy).
So I pack it up and get home. I take a real close look at the projectiles since EVERYTHING else is the same as my FGMM clone. I even prepped the brass at the same time with the same sizing die.
What I find is that the Wideners "no name" BTHP is longer and narrower than the SMK. It is only .308 diameter right at the base ahead of the boattail. This gives me VERY little space to seat the round. If I seat it to magazine depth it appears that this puts the projectile right at the shoulder of the case. Unless I seat it CRAZY long I can press the bullet back with my fingers.
I ran these before with virgin Winchester brass, but the only thing I can think of is that I may have had more neck tension with the new brass.
So what would you do with this crap?
I am thinking that I may pull them and re-seat them stupid long and just jam the lands and run them single-load. At least I could get some use out of them.
I will definitely not waste my money on them again.
I bought 500 of these awhile back. I only loaded and shot about 100 of them because they had horrible accuracy. I figured out why. The weights were all over.
So I sort them by weight and get them down to .5gr groups. I throw them in the cabinet and forget about them. Now with components being tight I pull them out and figure they can work for some "fast shooting" drill where bughole accuracy is not required.
I FL Resize from FGMM once fired brass, charge it and seat the bullets to 2.80" so I can magazine load them. I load up 50.
I go out to the range today and run through a dot drill with my FGMM clone load (168 SMK's). They work flawlessly. I decide to switch over to the crap loads to play with the 380 yard gong since a 4 MOA error will still have me on it. I pop open the box and it looks like a jagged mountain peak. About half of the rounds had setback. I ran ten that were still at 2.80" and they shot fine (all on target with reasonable accuracy).
So I pack it up and get home. I take a real close look at the projectiles since EVERYTHING else is the same as my FGMM clone. I even prepped the brass at the same time with the same sizing die.
What I find is that the Wideners "no name" BTHP is longer and narrower than the SMK. It is only .308 diameter right at the base ahead of the boattail. This gives me VERY little space to seat the round. If I seat it to magazine depth it appears that this puts the projectile right at the shoulder of the case. Unless I seat it CRAZY long I can press the bullet back with my fingers.
I ran these before with virgin Winchester brass, but the only thing I can think of is that I may have had more neck tension with the new brass.
So what would you do with this crap?
I am thinking that I may pull them and re-seat them stupid long and just jam the lands and run them single-load. At least I could get some use out of them.
I will definitely not waste my money on them again.
