Boise State just pulled off a great win against Virginia Tech. While I'm an ACC guy, it was great to see a small school vault its program into early BCS contention. Boise State has worked hard to get where they are, and they deserve that credit. The Broncos last drive down with 2 minutes left was phenomenal. There must be ice water in Kellen Moore's veins. Great game, check it out on Sportcenter.
Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
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Petis was the key to victory. Im sure the BCS will try to discredit them with "strength of schedule" but it was a great game. The new Nike Combat uniforms are a great new look for both schools. I hope they field the uniforms for all Nike sponsored teams.
Good luck to Boise St. They are a hell of a team for a small school.
Petis was the key to victory. Im sure the BCS will try to discredit them with "strength of schedule" but it was a great game. The new Nike Combat uniforms are a great new look for both schools. I hope they field the uniforms for all Nike sponsored teams.
Good luck to Boise St. They are a hell of a team for a small school.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
they beat va tech. great. being ranked 10 in the come out doesnt carry much weight. if they wanna be in the bcs going a freakin bcs confrence.
they beat va tech. great. being ranked 10 in the come out doesnt carry much weight. if they wanna be in the bcs going a freakin bcs confrence.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
It was a entertaining game. I like the VA Tech uniforms but the BSU uniforms didn't look that good to me. Now, BSU will not be able to play like that if they get a shot at the BCS championship. If they do they will get blown out. They played well but there defensive line started to give in the second half big time. If that happens against a team like Alabama you will see some long runs by Ingram and Richardson. That last drive was impressive and if they could limit there mistakes they can be dangerous. However we will not see them challenged or we shouldn't see them challenged until whatever bowl game they get into. Anyway it was a good game and big ups to BSU. Next weekend should provide some good games, I am especially looking forward to the U and OSU and of course Bama and Penn state. Roll Tide.
It was a entertaining game. I like the VA Tech uniforms but the BSU uniforms didn't look that good to me. Now, BSU will not be able to play like that if they get a shot at the BCS championship. If they do they will get blown out. They played well but there defensive line started to give in the second half big time. If that happens against a team like Alabama you will see some long runs by Ingram and Richardson. That last drive was impressive and if they could limit there mistakes they can be dangerous. However we will not see them challenged or we shouldn't see them challenged until whatever bowl game they get into. Anyway it was a good game and big ups to BSU. Next weekend should provide some good games, I am especially looking forward to the U and OSU and of course Bama and Penn state. Roll Tide.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
There is a reason no big time program will agree to a contract to play Boise. They have asked with no takers. It is a trap, they can beat anyone on a given day, could they survive SEC, maybe not but I love it now when the little guys have shook up the BCS. Tired of hearing about their strength of schedule, you play who you play and if no big time conference will go play Boise since, they are a small no talent program, shut BSU up by going there and playing them, they will come to your house next year and play. If the BCS does not give them credit, then the BCS should send Alabama on the BCS dime to Boise, see what happens. BCS put up or shut up about Boise State.
There is a reason no big time program will agree to a contract to play Boise. They have asked with no takers. It is a trap, they can beat anyone on a given day, could they survive SEC, maybe not but I love it now when the little guys have shook up the BCS. Tired of hearing about their strength of schedule, you play who you play and if no big time conference will go play Boise since, they are a small no talent program, shut BSU up by going there and playing them, they will come to your house next year and play. If the BCS does not give them credit, then the BCS should send Alabama on the BCS dime to Boise, see what happens. BCS put up or shut up about Boise State.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 45.308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is a reason no big time program will agree to a contract to play Boise. They have asked with no takers. It is a trap, they can beat anyone on a given day, could they survive SEC, maybe not but I love it now when the little guys have shook up the BCS. Tired of hearing about their strength of schedule, you play who you play and if no big time conference will go play Boise since, they are a small no talent program, shut BSU up by going there and playing them, they will come to your house next year and play. If the BCS does not give them credit, then the BCS should send Alabama on the BCS dime to Boise, see what happens. BCS put up or shut up about Boise State. </div></div>
It was a great game. But I don't know about the SEC. Look at Alabama's schedule and each of the opposing teams schedules and see what kind of prep time they are giving themselves to play Bama. I'd like to see BSU play a big schedule too, just to shut them up. But who is going to be the one to step up. Maybe Ole Miss.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 45.308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is a reason no big time program will agree to a contract to play Boise. They have asked with no takers. It is a trap, they can beat anyone on a given day, could they survive SEC, maybe not but I love it now when the little guys have shook up the BCS. Tired of hearing about their strength of schedule, you play who you play and if no big time conference will go play Boise since, they are a small no talent program, shut BSU up by going there and playing them, they will come to your house next year and play. If the BCS does not give them credit, then the BCS should send Alabama on the BCS dime to Boise, see what happens. BCS put up or shut up about Boise State. </div></div>
It was a great game. But I don't know about the SEC. Look at Alabama's schedule and each of the opposing teams schedules and see what kind of prep time they are giving themselves to play Bama. I'd like to see BSU play a big schedule too, just to shut them up. But who is going to be the one to step up. Maybe Ole Miss.
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If anything, it will be harder for BSU to get more games with the big schools because they demonstrated once again that they can beat the powerhouses. Sure, they would not go undefeated if they were in the SEC but at some point you have to give BSU their due. BSU should win out the rest of the season and if they do, should get a BCS bowl game. If they're undefeated and everyone else is sitting on 2 losses, BSU certainly can make the case that they deserve to play for the championship. In the age of corrupt recruiting, treating freshmen like they're kings, and all the other bullshit that surrounds NCAA sports, it's great to see a small school bite, scratch and claw its way to the top.
If anything, it will be harder for BSU to get more games with the big schools because they demonstrated once again that they can beat the powerhouses. Sure, they would not go undefeated if they were in the SEC but at some point you have to give BSU their due. BSU should win out the rest of the season and if they do, should get a BCS bowl game. If they're undefeated and everyone else is sitting on 2 losses, BSU certainly can make the case that they deserve to play for the championship. In the age of corrupt recruiting, treating freshmen like they're kings, and all the other bullshit that surrounds NCAA sports, it's great to see a small school bite, scratch and claw its way to the top.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
If they were to beat the SEC champion, I would be impressed.
If they were to beat the SEC champion, I would be impressed.
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I agree that Boise can play with the big dogs on any given day, but I dont think they could play a season in the SEC. Outside of this win their other wins came in bowl games correct? That gave them several weeks to prepare for their opponent. And this game was the first of the season, so they had the summer to prep.
All that being said they played a great game and looked good, too bad their conference stinks. Maybe they should look into the Big XII
I agree that Boise can play with the big dogs on any given day, but I dont think they could play a season in the SEC. Outside of this win their other wins came in bowl games correct? That gave them several weeks to prepare for their opponent. And this game was the first of the season, so they had the summer to prep.
All that being said they played a great game and looked good, too bad their conference stinks. Maybe they should look into the Big XII
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smboudreaux</div><div class="ubbcode-body">they beat va tech. great. being ranked 10 in the come out doesnt carry much weight. if they wanna be in the bcs going a freakin bcs confrence. </div></div>
One more time...... in English this time please?
They can't handle an SEC team like Alabama. To much talent and to much depth. Bama would obliterate their offensive line and make their QB wish he had stayed in the locker room.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smboudreaux</div><div class="ubbcode-body">they beat va tech. great. being ranked 10 in the come out doesnt carry much weight. if they wanna be in the bcs going a freakin bcs confrence. </div></div>
One more time...... in English this time please?
They can't handle an SEC team like Alabama. To much talent and to much depth. Bama would obliterate their offensive line and make their QB wish he had stayed in the locker room.
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I didn't mean to sound that BSU couldn't beat anyone one in a given game. I would like to see them play a tougher schedule. Could they come out every week and play a team that can challenge them? As of now they have played a tough team then had a few weeks of playing no names. So it will be interesting to see when they get in the PAC10. As far as them playing an SEC schedule, I don't think they could go undefeated. It is too fast and too physical with a lot of depth. I don't blame any of the SEC schools for not scheduling them they already have a tough enough schedule without BSU. It sucks for BSU but that is why they are going into a different conference. Again they tend to produce very entertaining games.
I didn't mean to sound that BSU couldn't beat anyone one in a given game. I would like to see them play a tougher schedule. Could they come out every week and play a team that can challenge them? As of now they have played a tough team then had a few weeks of playing no names. So it will be interesting to see when they get in the PAC10. As far as them playing an SEC schedule, I don't think they could go undefeated. It is too fast and too physical with a lot of depth. I don't blame any of the SEC schools for not scheduling them they already have a tough enough schedule without BSU. It sucks for BSU but that is why they are going into a different conference. Again they tend to produce very entertaining games.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
41, that comment about the ghillie dream catchers was classic. Absolutely hilarious.
Anyway, I think most of us agree that BSU is not the premier football program in the US. The fact that they're a top 5 team, that they were undefeated last year, and that they've got a good chance of being undefeated this year, those are big accomplishments when we're talking about a college team. I think a big part of why people love watching college football is the unpredictability of it all, the chance that some no-name benchwarmer can replace an injured starter and make the big play. There's a purity to college football that the NFL grossly lacks, which is why a rags-to-riches story like BSU is so attractive to people.
They're going to beat the crap out of the Pac10 when they get there, but the Pac10 isn't a stellar conference like the SEC is. Still, it's better than the WAC.
41, that comment about the ghillie dream catchers was classic. Absolutely hilarious.
Anyway, I think most of us agree that BSU is not the premier football program in the US. The fact that they're a top 5 team, that they were undefeated last year, and that they've got a good chance of being undefeated this year, those are big accomplishments when we're talking about a college team. I think a big part of why people love watching college football is the unpredictability of it all, the chance that some no-name benchwarmer can replace an injured starter and make the big play. There's a purity to college football that the NFL grossly lacks, which is why a rags-to-riches story like BSU is so attractive to people.
They're going to beat the crap out of the Pac10 when they get there, but the Pac10 isn't a stellar conference like the SEC is. Still, it's better than the WAC.
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College football is a business, plain and simple. If you don't believe that you are ignorant. Great programs loose money playing a no one like BSU.
I want to see BCS play a tough schedule. I want to see BSU play a decent schedule. Sure, can they beat someone once, yes, but can they do it week after week after week? Hell no.
This is what I am talking about. This is BSU's 2009 schedule. And yes, they beat Oregon, their first game when everyone was healthy, but look at the pussy schools they played
Oregon
Miami (OH)
Fresno State
Bowling Green (do any of you know where BG is? It's in Ohio)
UC Davis (didn't Cal just beat them 72-3?)
Tulsa
Hawaii
San Jose State (didn't Alabama just beat the shit out of them?)
Louisiana Tech
Idaho
Utah State
Nevada
New Mexico State *
BSU played a bunch of NOBODIES and does not deserve BCS contention. You are an idiot if you think by any stretch of the imagination this 2009 schedule compares, even remotely, to an SEC team let alone Alabama. This year is not much better. You get VT, from one of the weakest conferences and Oregon State. The rest are a bunch of little girly schools. Ooooh Toledo and Idaho. I bet they'll really have to get up for those games.
And your argument about "no one will play us" is as about as week as it gets. That's like saying no one will screw the fat chick because they're afraid she may screw better than they do. Face it...no one screws the fat chick because no one WANTS to screw the fat chick except Shankster and the occasional drunk who loses a bet (UO, OSU, VT)
We'll see BSU. But you've got a long way to go before you're ready. You want to impress me? Join a real conference and play quality teams week after week. Then start crowing.
College football is a business, plain and simple. If you don't believe that you are ignorant. Great programs loose money playing a no one like BSU.
I want to see BCS play a tough schedule. I want to see BSU play a decent schedule. Sure, can they beat someone once, yes, but can they do it week after week after week? Hell no.
This is what I am talking about. This is BSU's 2009 schedule. And yes, they beat Oregon, their first game when everyone was healthy, but look at the pussy schools they played
Oregon
Miami (OH)
Fresno State
Bowling Green (do any of you know where BG is? It's in Ohio)
UC Davis (didn't Cal just beat them 72-3?)
Tulsa
Hawaii
San Jose State (didn't Alabama just beat the shit out of them?)
Louisiana Tech
Idaho
Utah State
Nevada
New Mexico State *
BSU played a bunch of NOBODIES and does not deserve BCS contention. You are an idiot if you think by any stretch of the imagination this 2009 schedule compares, even remotely, to an SEC team let alone Alabama. This year is not much better. You get VT, from one of the weakest conferences and Oregon State. The rest are a bunch of little girly schools. Ooooh Toledo and Idaho. I bet they'll really have to get up for those games.
And your argument about "no one will play us" is as about as week as it gets. That's like saying no one will screw the fat chick because they're afraid she may screw better than they do. Face it...no one screws the fat chick because no one WANTS to screw the fat chick except Shankster and the occasional drunk who loses a bet (UO, OSU, VT)
We'll see BSU. But you've got a long way to go before you're ready. You want to impress me? Join a real conference and play quality teams week after week. Then start crowing.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
I don't get paid to analyze sports for a living. I highly doubt anyone on this site does either. However, the people that do get paid to analyze this stuff are giving BSU more credit than you are. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5543080 Each of these sportswriters understands issues of what conference a team plays in, what strength of schedule is, and all the other criteria that goes into polling. But BSU is still gaining ground against big teams in big conferences. Hell, I'm not even a BSU fan, but I'm impressed with where they're achieving now.
I don't get paid to analyze sports for a living. I highly doubt anyone on this site does either. However, the people that do get paid to analyze this stuff are giving BSU more credit than you are. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5543080 Each of these sportswriters understands issues of what conference a team plays in, what strength of schedule is, and all the other criteria that goes into polling. But BSU is still gaining ground against big teams in big conferences. Hell, I'm not even a BSU fan, but I'm impressed with where they're achieving now.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYshooter338$</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smboudreaux</div><div class="ubbcode-body">they beat va tech. great. being ranked 10 in the come out doesnt carry much weight. if they wanna be in the bcs going a freakin bcs confrence. </div></div>
One more time...... in English this time please?
They can't handle an SEC team like Alabama. To much talent and to much depth. Bama would obliterate their offensive line and make their QB wish he had stayed in the locker room. </div></div>
what i was trying to say is beating a team like va tech, which happens to be ranked number 10 in the season opener doesnt carry much weight. va tech is another one of those team the pollsters lover to put up on the pedal early in the season only to fall and crumble throughout the season.
i think if boise wants to be in BCS contention they need to join a BCS conference. strength of schedule is everything. would they win some games in the SEC? without a doubt. would they go undefeated. not a chance. 2 losses at a minimum.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYshooter338$</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smboudreaux</div><div class="ubbcode-body">they beat va tech. great. being ranked 10 in the come out doesnt carry much weight. if they wanna be in the bcs going a freakin bcs confrence. </div></div>
One more time...... in English this time please?
They can't handle an SEC team like Alabama. To much talent and to much depth. Bama would obliterate their offensive line and make their QB wish he had stayed in the locker room. </div></div>
what i was trying to say is beating a team like va tech, which happens to be ranked number 10 in the season opener doesnt carry much weight. va tech is another one of those team the pollsters lover to put up on the pedal early in the season only to fall and crumble throughout the season.
i think if boise wants to be in BCS contention they need to join a BCS conference. strength of schedule is everything. would they win some games in the SEC? without a doubt. would they go undefeated. not a chance. 2 losses at a minimum.
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I'm not impressed with the sportswriters. They follow the trends and don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. If they're so "knowledgeable" why aren't they bringing in the big bucks backing their "beliefs" with bets in Vegas? Call Vegas and find out the odds for BSU winning the NC. Have the writers put their money where their mouth (and pen) is. And look at some of the color commentators like that asshat Lee Corso. How many times does he have to say Alabama is going to lose and then look like an idiot when he's wrong...again before people believe he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Oh, and BTW, you don't win a NC by squeaking by a team in the last minutes.
I'm not impressed with the sportswriters. They follow the trends and don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. If they're so "knowledgeable" why aren't they bringing in the big bucks backing their "beliefs" with bets in Vegas? Call Vegas and find out the odds for BSU winning the NC. Have the writers put their money where their mouth (and pen) is. And look at some of the color commentators like that asshat Lee Corso. How many times does he have to say Alabama is going to lose and then look like an idiot when he's wrong...again before people believe he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Oh, and BTW, you don't win a NC by squeaking by a team in the last minutes.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not impressed with the sportswriters. They follow the trends and don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. If they're so "knowledgeable" why aren't they bringing in the big bucks backing their "beliefs" with bets in Vegas? Call Vegas and find out the odds for BSU winning the NC. Have the writers put their money where their mouth (and pen) is. And look at some of the color commentators like that asshat Lee Corso. How many times does he have to say Alabama is going to lose and then look like an idiot when he's wrong...again before people believe he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Oh, and BTW, you don't win a NC by squeaking by a team in the last minutes. </div></div>
+1, Lee Corso is a douchebag.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not impressed with the sportswriters. They follow the trends and don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. If they're so "knowledgeable" why aren't they bringing in the big bucks backing their "beliefs" with bets in Vegas? Call Vegas and find out the odds for BSU winning the NC. Have the writers put their money where their mouth (and pen) is. And look at some of the color commentators like that asshat Lee Corso. How many times does he have to say Alabama is going to lose and then look like an idiot when he's wrong...again before people believe he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Oh, and BTW, you don't win a NC by squeaking by a team in the last minutes. </div></div>
+1, Lee Corso is a douchebag.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smboudreaux</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
i think if boise wants to be in BCS contention they need to join a BCS conference. strength of schedule is everything. would they win some games in the SEC? without a doubt. would they go undefeated. not a chance. 2 losses at a minimum. </div></div>
Exactly. It isn't always about who has the best talent...it is who can keep the talent healthy. If you play a patsy schedule you have relatively little difficulty keeping guys from getting injured. Try playing in the SEC and maintaining healthy starters...much tougher.
Josh
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smboudreaux</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
i think if boise wants to be in BCS contention they need to join a BCS conference. strength of schedule is everything. would they win some games in the SEC? without a doubt. would they go undefeated. not a chance. 2 losses at a minimum. </div></div>
Exactly. It isn't always about who has the best talent...it is who can keep the talent healthy. If you play a patsy schedule you have relatively little difficulty keeping guys from getting injured. Try playing in the SEC and maintaining healthy starters...much tougher.
Josh
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smboudreaux</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
i think if boise wants to be in BCS contention they need to join a BCS conference. strength of schedule is everything. would they win some games in the SEC? without a doubt. would they go undefeated. not a chance. 2 losses at a minimum. </div></div>
Exactly. It isn't always about who has the best talent...it is who can keep the talent healthy. If you play a patsy schedule you have relatively little difficulty keeping guys from getting injured. Try playing in the SEC and maintaining healthy starters...much tougher.
Josh </div></div>
This is a good point, but it also lends itself to argue that IF, somehow, BSU gets put into the national championship game, they've got an unfair advantage to win it since they won't face the same level of physicality in the run up. You could argue conversely that they may not be ready to face that kind of competition either. Last year's Fiesta Bowl did demonstrate how that match up would turn out because TCU and BSU faced off against each other.
It's easy to be dismissive about sportswriters, but they've obviously got enough street cred that ESPN or SI will pay them for their opinions, and none of us can claim that. Lee "The Asshat" Corso notwithstanding, none of us would stand for being dismissed by amateurs in our respective fields. If an IDPA shooter looked at our opinions on precision shooting and said, "Well if he's so good, why didn't he win Camp Perry?" we'd all jump on the dude because there are far more factors that go into winning Camp Perry, or making it rich in Vegas.
Also, does anyone notice a stark correlation between who a person roots for and how they feel about BSU? It seems if you support SEC or Big 12 teams, you tend to slam BSU. Otherwise, people tend to be more sympathetic. That's just an observation, but it suggests that the powerhouse football conferences are pretty dedicated to protecting their market share. So if you are a Big 12 or SEC fan, would you want BSU to be admitted to your conference?
Incidentally, I agree that BSU would take a couple losses if they played in the big conferences. I'm amazed at the passion some people have against the newcomers though.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smboudreaux</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
i think if boise wants to be in BCS contention they need to join a BCS conference. strength of schedule is everything. would they win some games in the SEC? without a doubt. would they go undefeated. not a chance. 2 losses at a minimum. </div></div>
Exactly. It isn't always about who has the best talent...it is who can keep the talent healthy. If you play a patsy schedule you have relatively little difficulty keeping guys from getting injured. Try playing in the SEC and maintaining healthy starters...much tougher.
Josh </div></div>
This is a good point, but it also lends itself to argue that IF, somehow, BSU gets put into the national championship game, they've got an unfair advantage to win it since they won't face the same level of physicality in the run up. You could argue conversely that they may not be ready to face that kind of competition either. Last year's Fiesta Bowl did demonstrate how that match up would turn out because TCU and BSU faced off against each other.
It's easy to be dismissive about sportswriters, but they've obviously got enough street cred that ESPN or SI will pay them for their opinions, and none of us can claim that. Lee "The Asshat" Corso notwithstanding, none of us would stand for being dismissed by amateurs in our respective fields. If an IDPA shooter looked at our opinions on precision shooting and said, "Well if he's so good, why didn't he win Camp Perry?" we'd all jump on the dude because there are far more factors that go into winning Camp Perry, or making it rich in Vegas.
Also, does anyone notice a stark correlation between who a person roots for and how they feel about BSU? It seems if you support SEC or Big 12 teams, you tend to slam BSU. Otherwise, people tend to be more sympathetic. That's just an observation, but it suggests that the powerhouse football conferences are pretty dedicated to protecting their market share. So if you are a Big 12 or SEC fan, would you want BSU to be admitted to your conference?
Incidentally, I agree that BSU would take a couple losses if they played in the big conferences. I'm amazed at the passion some people have against the newcomers though.
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ZL,
I agree. Boise is a fun team to watch (Oklahoma from a few years ago anyone?). However, I do find it entertaining when they are screaming for NC contention. It becomes harder to justify your case against a 1 loss team that may have been on the losing end of a close game when the other team played 5-6 ranked opponents.
Josh
ZL,
I agree. Boise is a fun team to watch (Oklahoma from a few years ago anyone?). However, I do find it entertaining when they are screaming for NC contention. It becomes harder to justify your case against a 1 loss team that may have been on the losing end of a close game when the other team played 5-6 ranked opponents.
Josh
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What's sad is that I don't think BSU will have that much better of an argument when they're a PAC10 team. If they were in the PAC10 this year, they'd only be worried about Oregon, Stanford, and USC (which is still under sanctions). Oh well, it's better than the WAC anyway.
What's sad is that I don't think BSU will have that much better of an argument when they're a PAC10 team. If they were in the PAC10 this year, they'd only be worried about Oregon, Stanford, and USC (which is still under sanctions). Oh well, it's better than the WAC anyway.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Forty-One</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I just sold over 500 ghillie dream catchers at Burning Man in order to raise enough money to get a Favre Viking jersey. </div></div>
Dood, I could sure use one of those... The dream catcher, that is. Favre jersey... meh.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Forty-One</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I just sold over 500 ghillie dream catchers at Burning Man in order to raise enough money to get a Favre Viking jersey. </div></div>
Dood, I could sure use one of those... The dream catcher, that is. Favre jersey... meh.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's sad is that I don't think BSU will have that much better of an argument when they're a PAC10 team. If they were in the PAC10 this year, they'd only be worried about Oregon, Stanford, and USC (which is still under sanctions). Oh well, it's better than the WAC anyway.</div></div>
Again, you show you don't know what you're talking about. Cal has been a perennial powerhouse in the Pac-10 over the last few years and will hand BSU their ass. Washington is starting to look strong. And either way, they'll be playing much tougher football than the girl's schools they are playing now.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's sad is that I don't think BSU will have that much better of an argument when they're a PAC10 team. If they were in the PAC10 this year, they'd only be worried about Oregon, Stanford, and USC (which is still under sanctions). Oh well, it's better than the WAC anyway.</div></div>
Again, you show you don't know what you're talking about. Cal has been a perennial powerhouse in the Pac-10 over the last few years and will hand BSU their ass. Washington is starting to look strong. And either way, they'll be playing much tougher football than the girl's schools they are playing now.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's sad is that I don't think BSU will have that much better of an argument when they're a PAC10 team. If they were in the PAC10 this year, they'd only be worried about Oregon, Stanford, and USC (which is still under sanctions). Oh well, it's better than the WAC anyway.</div></div>
Again, you show you don't know what you're talking about. Cal has been a perennial powerhouse in the Pac-10 over the last few years and will hand BSU their ass. Washington is starting to look strong. And either way, they'll be playing much tougher football than the girl's schools they are playing now. </div></div>
Again, Mike, we disagree. The PAC10's a joke, especially compared to the SEC. Washington got beat by BYU last week. That's not a great start. USC needs to commit recruiting violations to have a great team (hand that Heisman over, Reggie!). And let's take a look at Cal's history over the past 5 seasons:
2005: Vegas Bowl, vs BYU (W). Season 8-4 (4-4 PAC10), #25
2006: Holiday Bowl, vs Texas A&M (W). Season 10-3 (7-2), #14
2007: Armed Forces Bowl, vs Air Force (W). Season 7-6 (3-6) NR
2008: Emerald Bowl, vs Miami-FL (W). Season 9-4 (6-3) #25
2009: Poinsettia Bowl, vs Utah (L). Season 8-5 (5-4) NR
A "perennial powerhouse" indeed... outside of a stellar year in 2006 (with Lynch and Jackson), they didn't finish above #25 even with bowl wins. Maybe you see something different in the numbers, but I think calling Cal a powerhouse is a gross exaggeration. If that's your stance, then by your own standards BSU should be upstart program of the past century. But hey, you're welcome to your opinions and I'm going to keep mine.
Incidentally, the Golden Bears rugby side is fantastic. I never had the chance to play them in college, but I've seen them play a few times and they live up to the hype.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's sad is that I don't think BSU will have that much better of an argument when they're a PAC10 team. If they were in the PAC10 this year, they'd only be worried about Oregon, Stanford, and USC (which is still under sanctions). Oh well, it's better than the WAC anyway.</div></div>
Again, you show you don't know what you're talking about. Cal has been a perennial powerhouse in the Pac-10 over the last few years and will hand BSU their ass. Washington is starting to look strong. And either way, they'll be playing much tougher football than the girl's schools they are playing now. </div></div>
Again, Mike, we disagree. The PAC10's a joke, especially compared to the SEC. Washington got beat by BYU last week. That's not a great start. USC needs to commit recruiting violations to have a great team (hand that Heisman over, Reggie!). And let's take a look at Cal's history over the past 5 seasons:
2005: Vegas Bowl, vs BYU (W). Season 8-4 (4-4 PAC10), #25
2006: Holiday Bowl, vs Texas A&M (W). Season 10-3 (7-2), #14
2007: Armed Forces Bowl, vs Air Force (W). Season 7-6 (3-6) NR
2008: Emerald Bowl, vs Miami-FL (W). Season 9-4 (6-3) #25
2009: Poinsettia Bowl, vs Utah (L). Season 8-5 (5-4) NR
A "perennial powerhouse" indeed... outside of a stellar year in 2006 (with Lynch and Jackson), they didn't finish above #25 even with bowl wins. Maybe you see something different in the numbers, but I think calling Cal a powerhouse is a gross exaggeration. If that's your stance, then by your own standards BSU should be upstart program of the past century. But hey, you're welcome to your opinions and I'm going to keep mine.
Incidentally, the Golden Bears rugby side is fantastic. I never had the chance to play them in college, but I've seen them play a few times and they live up to the hype.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
Actually, do your research because the Pac-10 matches and beats the SEC in many categories, especially given the fact that the SEC has two more teams than the Pac-10. And we wont even enter into the argument about Scholar athletes because your beloved Vanderbilt will not hold a candle to at least 3-4 schools in the Pac-10. In the Pac-10 you actually have to attend classes and pass to play football.
I also find it a tad bit ironic that you want to point out how Cal did not do well yet post 5 out of 6 bowl victories. Given their rankings I will fall back on an oft used line by delirious SEC fans and that is that "the Pac-10 is so good that we beat ourselves up playing each other"
But alas, I digress as this is not an SEC-Pac-10 discussion, that is for another thread.
I will concede that my use of the word "powerhouse" might have been <span style="font-style: italic">slightly</span> exaggerated however my bias is not without either warrant or foundation.
My point is that BSU does not have a rightful claim to the NC due to their current schedule. I never said they were not a good team, just not good enough to compete in a BCS conference at play for an NC. Let's be clear.
On on a side controversial note, I will say that Cal's rugby team is the best in the country; and having played both sports at that level feel that rugby players(above the beer drinking club level) are tougher than football players. I will also stipulate that of those rugby players, Californians are, by far, the toughest and best followed by a distant second by the US Naval Academy, which shows that the second toughest rugby players are sailors.
Actually, do your research because the Pac-10 matches and beats the SEC in many categories, especially given the fact that the SEC has two more teams than the Pac-10. And we wont even enter into the argument about Scholar athletes because your beloved Vanderbilt will not hold a candle to at least 3-4 schools in the Pac-10. In the Pac-10 you actually have to attend classes and pass to play football.
I also find it a tad bit ironic that you want to point out how Cal did not do well yet post 5 out of 6 bowl victories. Given their rankings I will fall back on an oft used line by delirious SEC fans and that is that "the Pac-10 is so good that we beat ourselves up playing each other"
But alas, I digress as this is not an SEC-Pac-10 discussion, that is for another thread.
I will concede that my use of the word "powerhouse" might have been <span style="font-style: italic">slightly</span> exaggerated however my bias is not without either warrant or foundation.
My point is that BSU does not have a rightful claim to the NC due to their current schedule. I never said they were not a good team, just not good enough to compete in a BCS conference at play for an NC. Let's be clear.
On on a side controversial note, I will say that Cal's rugby team is the best in the country; and having played both sports at that level feel that rugby players(above the beer drinking club level) are tougher than football players. I will also stipulate that of those rugby players, Californians are, by far, the toughest and best followed by a distant second by the US Naval Academy, which shows that the second toughest rugby players are sailors.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
Outside of Bama and Fla maybe Auburn the SEC is just another conference, on par with Big 12 that prob has 3 teams this year. Big 10 is weak, Pac 10 has one team. ACC may have Miami. Big east has no one. The other small conference are gaining stature due to limited scholarships, no one team now can dominate recruits like years past.
What weak team in a weak conference beat the all mighty Bama from the almighty SEC in a bowl game? GA got beat by who? Who had the best bowl conference win record last year? Preceding years? With Colt pulling the trigger last year in the championship, Bama would have gone down, a freshman almost pulled it off. Neb would have beat Bama last year and if Fla and Bama played again Fla would have won. Fla got out coached and out played for one game. But that is what is good about football, its all pinned on one game so anybody can beat anybody on one given day and field.
No body wants to commit to a contract to play BSU. They have tried and are trying to play big power houses but no one will take the offer. So they get punished even though BSU wants to play the big guys. Would Bama beat BSU at home, sure but Bama would lose on the Smurf Turf and teams like SEC want nothing to take away from their prominence in the BCS and BSU would stop them. The conference directors know and understand this, BSU is poison to their stature.
What most hate is how a bunch of under sized, slow nobodies are shocking the BCS with superb coaching, superb fundamentals, play hard, lots of hustle and most of all play as team instead of look at me play and my stats so I can go onto the NFL.
If the SEC, BCS, writers and all the nay sayers in the SEC do not give BSU a shot at the end, then put up by sending the winner into BSU to state your case, win and its all over, lose then shut up.
Outside of Bama and Fla maybe Auburn the SEC is just another conference, on par with Big 12 that prob has 3 teams this year. Big 10 is weak, Pac 10 has one team. ACC may have Miami. Big east has no one. The other small conference are gaining stature due to limited scholarships, no one team now can dominate recruits like years past.
What weak team in a weak conference beat the all mighty Bama from the almighty SEC in a bowl game? GA got beat by who? Who had the best bowl conference win record last year? Preceding years? With Colt pulling the trigger last year in the championship, Bama would have gone down, a freshman almost pulled it off. Neb would have beat Bama last year and if Fla and Bama played again Fla would have won. Fla got out coached and out played for one game. But that is what is good about football, its all pinned on one game so anybody can beat anybody on one given day and field.
No body wants to commit to a contract to play BSU. They have tried and are trying to play big power houses but no one will take the offer. So they get punished even though BSU wants to play the big guys. Would Bama beat BSU at home, sure but Bama would lose on the Smurf Turf and teams like SEC want nothing to take away from their prominence in the BCS and BSU would stop them. The conference directors know and understand this, BSU is poison to their stature.
What most hate is how a bunch of under sized, slow nobodies are shocking the BCS with superb coaching, superb fundamentals, play hard, lots of hustle and most of all play as team instead of look at me play and my stats so I can go onto the NFL.
If the SEC, BCS, writers and all the nay sayers in the SEC do not give BSU a shot at the end, then put up by sending the winner into BSU to state your case, win and its all over, lose then shut up.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 45.308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
What weak team in a weak conference beat the all mighty Bama from the almighty SEC in a bowl game? GA got beat by who? Who had the best bowl conference win record last year? Preceding years? With Colt pulling the trigger last year in the championship, Bama would have gone down, a freshman almost pulled it off. Neb would have beat Bama last year and if Fla and Bama played again Fla would have won. Fla got out coached and out played for one game. But that is what is good about football, its all pinned on one game so anybody can beat anybody on one given day and field.
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This is one of the exact points I contend with from a BSU fan. You contradict yourself. You point out poignant examples of how great teams can be beat by a mediocre team and how any team can be beat on a given day. Yet when you look at the BSU and show how they beat the "big name team" once you cry parody and say you're on the same level. Yet you don't do it week after week after week. The weakness of BSU's schedule is what is keeping it down. You don't entice a big name team to come to that nasty blue field, you petition the NCAA to put you in a real conference. THEN you have a leg to stand on.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 45.308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
What weak team in a weak conference beat the all mighty Bama from the almighty SEC in a bowl game? GA got beat by who? Who had the best bowl conference win record last year? Preceding years? With Colt pulling the trigger last year in the championship, Bama would have gone down, a freshman almost pulled it off. Neb would have beat Bama last year and if Fla and Bama played again Fla would have won. Fla got out coached and out played for one game. But that is what is good about football, its all pinned on one game so anybody can beat anybody on one given day and field.
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This is one of the exact points I contend with from a BSU fan. You contradict yourself. You point out poignant examples of how great teams can be beat by a mediocre team and how any team can be beat on a given day. Yet when you look at the BSU and show how they beat the "big name team" once you cry parody and say you're on the same level. Yet you don't do it week after week after week. The weakness of BSU's schedule is what is keeping it down. You don't entice a big name team to come to that nasty blue field, you petition the NCAA to put you in a real conference. THEN you have a leg to stand on.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 45.308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
What weak team in a weak conference beat the all mighty Bama from the almighty SEC in a bowl game? GA got beat by who? Who had the best bowl conference win record last year? Preceding years? With Colt pulling the trigger last year in the championship, Bama would have gone down, a freshman almost pulled it off. Neb would have beat Bama last year and if Fla and Bama played again Fla would have won. Fla got out coached and out played for one game. But that is what is good about football, its all pinned on one game so anybody can beat anybody on one given day and field.
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And this is ridiculous. The "could of, would of, should of" argument makes you look like a disgruntled, bitter fan. Colt could have stayed in the game and still got his ass whipped. The freshman never even came close to doing it and it was obvious to the millions watching on TV the brown stain in the back of his pants from seeing the Bama defense. Nebraska could have beat Bama if they didn't lose to a bunch of nobodies, and Florida and TT flat out got their asses kicked. It was not close, it was not a nail biter, it was Florida getting their ass stomped by Alabama like they always have.
Please come back when you have a legitimate argument.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 45.308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
What weak team in a weak conference beat the all mighty Bama from the almighty SEC in a bowl game? GA got beat by who? Who had the best bowl conference win record last year? Preceding years? With Colt pulling the trigger last year in the championship, Bama would have gone down, a freshman almost pulled it off. Neb would have beat Bama last year and if Fla and Bama played again Fla would have won. Fla got out coached and out played for one game. But that is what is good about football, its all pinned on one game so anybody can beat anybody on one given day and field.
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And this is ridiculous. The "could of, would of, should of" argument makes you look like a disgruntled, bitter fan. Colt could have stayed in the game and still got his ass whipped. The freshman never even came close to doing it and it was obvious to the millions watching on TV the brown stain in the back of his pants from seeing the Bama defense. Nebraska could have beat Bama if they didn't lose to a bunch of nobodies, and Florida and TT flat out got their asses kicked. It was not close, it was not a nail biter, it was Florida getting their ass stomped by Alabama like they always have.
Please come back when you have a legitimate argument.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
All that talk of PAC 10 is great is making my stomach hurt. Let me throw my two cents in saying.... football is football. Who gives a shit what conference you are in and stop crying about which one is better. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. We are all biased given the team we cheer for is in that certain conference. Now at any given time, any team can lose.
For instance you look at USC. They are PAC10 and are taking heavy loses due to poor management and breaking the rules. SEC vs PAC10 is a hard one to argue for. You have some powerhouse teams in both they also play different games. Could USC beat Bama right now? Absolutely NOT. Could any PAC10 team beat the championship team, at full strength, tonight? No way. They are the champs for a damn good reason.
Get over it. Both great conferences.
All that talk of PAC 10 is great is making my stomach hurt. Let me throw my two cents in saying.... football is football. Who gives a shit what conference you are in and stop crying about which one is better. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. We are all biased given the team we cheer for is in that certain conference. Now at any given time, any team can lose.
For instance you look at USC. They are PAC10 and are taking heavy loses due to poor management and breaking the rules. SEC vs PAC10 is a hard one to argue for. You have some powerhouse teams in both they also play different games. Could USC beat Bama right now? Absolutely NOT. Could any PAC10 team beat the championship team, at full strength, tonight? No way. They are the champs for a damn good reason.
Get over it. Both great conferences.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
Southland Conference (home of my Alma mater) rules!!!
(Savour the jest, as indicated by three exclamation marks)
Southland Conference (home of my Alma mater) rules!!!
(Savour the jest, as indicated by three exclamation marks)
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYshooter338$</div><div class="ubbcode-body">football is football. Who gives a shit what conference you are in and stop crying about which one is better. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. We are all biased given the team we cheer for is in that certain conference. Now at any given time, any team can lose.
For instance you look at USC. They are PAC10 and are taking heavy loses due to poor management and breaking the rules. SEC vs PAC10 is a hard one to argue for. You have some powerhouse teams in both they also play different games. Could USC beat Bama right now? Absolutely NOT. Could any PAC10 team beat the championship team, at full strength, tonight? No way. They are the champs for a damn good reason.
Get over it. Both great conferences. </div></div>
Thats my point, did not Bama get beat by Utah in a bowl game 2 years ago? I think the Big 12 and the SEC are the strongest but over the last few years the PAC10 has the best bowl records. I think Neb ended the year very strong too and could have given anybody a run with their defense. Fla got embarrassed in the SEC championship and was going to bruise anyone in their bowl game.
I want a small team to break up the BSC. I went to the University of Alaska Anchorage, we have no football team, hockey who gets beat regularly and a basketball team who beat #1 Mich about 10 year ago in Mich. I am not a fan of any one program or conference so I am not a bitter fan, I have no dog in the fight other than I love college football, coached 7/8 grade football in Alaska and love to see the under dog guys win unless it was my boys. I do not have much bias, I see TX beating Bama last year if Colt McCoy stays in. The freshman was darn near shredding Bama secondary but SEC fans will not admit to the that...watch the game.
But, I am not an USC fan, I think Carrol had been cheating for years and the NCAA had a blind eye because USC brings in loads of money for the NCAA but they finally had to do something so Pete Carrol left because he knew. Other programs over the last few years had the NCAA on their throats with rules violations but UCS got all the love. If the refs would have done their job 05/06, USC should have lost to Notre Dame with 3 penalties on one play (coach was outside the box, coach was on the playing field during live ball, called timeout while on the field with live ball with no time outs left) but refs failed to flag any one them and put the ball on the 2 yard line. But then again, VY would not have had the chance to prove he was the best player in D1 that year either. That is what makes horse racing!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYshooter338$</div><div class="ubbcode-body">football is football. Who gives a shit what conference you are in and stop crying about which one is better. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. We are all biased given the team we cheer for is in that certain conference. Now at any given time, any team can lose.
For instance you look at USC. They are PAC10 and are taking heavy loses due to poor management and breaking the rules. SEC vs PAC10 is a hard one to argue for. You have some powerhouse teams in both they also play different games. Could USC beat Bama right now? Absolutely NOT. Could any PAC10 team beat the championship team, at full strength, tonight? No way. They are the champs for a damn good reason.
Get over it. Both great conferences. </div></div>
Thats my point, did not Bama get beat by Utah in a bowl game 2 years ago? I think the Big 12 and the SEC are the strongest but over the last few years the PAC10 has the best bowl records. I think Neb ended the year very strong too and could have given anybody a run with their defense. Fla got embarrassed in the SEC championship and was going to bruise anyone in their bowl game.
I want a small team to break up the BSC. I went to the University of Alaska Anchorage, we have no football team, hockey who gets beat regularly and a basketball team who beat #1 Mich about 10 year ago in Mich. I am not a fan of any one program or conference so I am not a bitter fan, I have no dog in the fight other than I love college football, coached 7/8 grade football in Alaska and love to see the under dog guys win unless it was my boys. I do not have much bias, I see TX beating Bama last year if Colt McCoy stays in. The freshman was darn near shredding Bama secondary but SEC fans will not admit to the that...watch the game.
But, I am not an USC fan, I think Carrol had been cheating for years and the NCAA had a blind eye because USC brings in loads of money for the NCAA but they finally had to do something so Pete Carrol left because he knew. Other programs over the last few years had the NCAA on their throats with rules violations but UCS got all the love. If the refs would have done their job 05/06, USC should have lost to Notre Dame with 3 penalties on one play (coach was outside the box, coach was on the playing field during live ball, called timeout while on the field with live ball with no time outs left) but refs failed to flag any one them and put the ball on the 2 yard line. But then again, VY would not have had the chance to prove he was the best player in D1 that year either. That is what makes horse racing!
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
McCoy is who Bama trained for. The reason they gave up what they did to Texas is because they had to adjust their defense to account for a complete unknown. Had McCoy stayed in the game it would have been a worse defeat for them. All Bama fans REALLY wish he had not gotten hurt, then we would not have to listen to the crap about it.
McCoy is who Bama trained for. The reason they gave up what they did to Texas is because they had to adjust their defense to account for a complete unknown. Had McCoy stayed in the game it would have been a worse defeat for them. All Bama fans REALLY wish he had not gotten hurt, then we would not have to listen to the crap about it.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: crumpmd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">McCoy is who Bama trained for. The reason they gave up what they did to Texas is because they had to adjust their defense to account for a complete unknown. Had McCoy stayed in the game it would have been a worse defeat for them. All Bama fans REALLY wish he had not gotten hurt, then we would not have to listen to the crap about it. </div></div>
I totally understand, when I scouted teams always had a game plan for their best player(s) with the D reading formations, keys on their O guard / tackle in high school, had a spy for their best player reading his key so they met in a gap at the line of scrimmage on run formations. Also try to jump X,Y,Z receiver route with best DB. Most teams are very predictable with their formations, guards, and routes. That is why things get interesting when the O scrambles and such when the play is not predictable with reading keys. Saban has very confusing defenses even for D1 college and the TX freshman did very well reading them after half time, Bama could / should had also made adjustments for the freshman but did not like TX did for the D. TX would have scored 7 with McCoy but he got blown up and he would have escaped some of those blitz. I wish he would have stayed in the game also, just saying.
I am a Saban fan, love to decipher or try to his schemes, wish he would have stayed at LSU.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: crumpmd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">McCoy is who Bama trained for. The reason they gave up what they did to Texas is because they had to adjust their defense to account for a complete unknown. Had McCoy stayed in the game it would have been a worse defeat for them. All Bama fans REALLY wish he had not gotten hurt, then we would not have to listen to the crap about it. </div></div>
I totally understand, when I scouted teams always had a game plan for their best player(s) with the D reading formations, keys on their O guard / tackle in high school, had a spy for their best player reading his key so they met in a gap at the line of scrimmage on run formations. Also try to jump X,Y,Z receiver route with best DB. Most teams are very predictable with their formations, guards, and routes. That is why things get interesting when the O scrambles and such when the play is not predictable with reading keys. Saban has very confusing defenses even for D1 college and the TX freshman did very well reading them after half time, Bama could / should had also made adjustments for the freshman but did not like TX did for the D. TX would have scored 7 with McCoy but he got blown up and he would have escaped some of those blitz. I wish he would have stayed in the game also, just saying.
I am a Saban fan, love to decipher or try to his schemes, wish he would have stayed at LSU.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
I think BSU put a dagger in VT heart, VT may recover but I feel it will be a long season with several loses now and this is why BSU will not get any attention, instead of getting the credit for destroying the program this year, all BSU will get is VT was over rated. Another reason why the BCS should stop their insanity with the schedule. You play who who play on any given week and the rating at that week should be in the formula but the BCS will never give credit to the small guys. I think the BCS really fears a TCU, Utah, BSU, etc will beat or at least make a very competitive game. Once that happens, the BCS will have to dissolve and go to a play off losing all their money and power...and the BCS will not let that happen.
I think BSU put a dagger in VT heart, VT may recover but I feel it will be a long season with several loses now and this is why BSU will not get any attention, instead of getting the credit for destroying the program this year, all BSU will get is VT was over rated. Another reason why the BCS should stop their insanity with the schedule. You play who who play on any given week and the rating at that week should be in the formula but the BCS will never give credit to the small guys. I think the BCS really fears a TCU, Utah, BSU, etc will beat or at least make a very competitive game. Once that happens, the BCS will have to dissolve and go to a play off losing all their money and power...and the BCS will not let that happen.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
after the vt loss to james madison do you guys still claim beating vt as a statement of bsu's worthiness?
after the vt loss to james madison do you guys still claim beating vt as a statement of bsu's worthiness?
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
+1, would like to see a rematch with TCU and Boise. Would be a another good game if TCU's qb does not turn out to be Boise"s mvp again.
+1, would like to see a rematch with TCU and Boise. Would be a another good game if TCU's qb does not turn out to be Boise"s mvp again.
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Boise State
Oregon State gave TCU all they wanted, and the Beavers are not BSU by any stretch. It would be a solid match for sure.
Oregon State gave TCU all they wanted, and the Beavers are not BSU by any stretch. It would be a solid match for sure.
