Someone please explain to me what the advantage of the ptg removable pilot reamer is over the solid pilot? Thanks.
Gunsmithing what's the advantage of the removable pilot reamer
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Re: what's the advantage of the removable pilot reamer
The reamer follows the bore more truly, also, it makes the floating rearmer holder work a little better.......in my opinion.
The reamer follows the bore more truly, also, it makes the floating rearmer holder work a little better.......in my opinion.
Re: what's the advantage of the removable pilot reamer
No two bores are the same. By having pilots of several sizes you can match the bore better and reduce the amount of reamer chatter. It just helps to make a better chamber. Most people will never know the difference. Donald
No two bores are the same. By having pilots of several sizes you can match the bore better and reduce the amount of reamer chatter. It just helps to make a better chamber. Most people will never know the difference. Donald
Re: what's the advantage of the removable pilot reamer
the bushing also acts as a bearing for the reamer to spin in,
lessening the chance of damaging/wearing the throat or beginning of the rifling
the bushing also acts as a bearing for the reamer to spin in,
lessening the chance of damaging/wearing the throat or beginning of the rifling
Re: what's the advantage of the removable pilot reamer
Usually you pick your pilots a minus .0002" under a pinned bore diameter check...With 2 tenths, your reamer will stay fairly true to the bore circle.
Usually you pick your pilots a minus .0002" under a pinned bore diameter check...With 2 tenths, your reamer will stay fairly true to the bore circle.
Re: what's the advantage of the removable pilot reamer
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: osuarchitect</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Someone please explain to me what the advantage of the ptg removable pilot reamer is over the solid pilot? Thanks.
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A better question is why anyone would still want to use a non-removable piloted reamer. Everything stated above is right on and no one should even consider using a non-removable piloted reamer in this day and age.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: osuarchitect</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Someone please explain to me what the advantage of the ptg removable pilot reamer is over the solid pilot? Thanks.
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A better question is why anyone would still want to use a non-removable piloted reamer. Everything stated above is right on and no one should even consider using a non-removable piloted reamer in this day and age.
Re: what's the advantage of the removable pilot reamer
Hate, I'm not following you...are you suggesting that the solid pilot is non-piloted?
Hate, I'm not following you...are you suggesting that the solid pilot is non-piloted?
Re: what's the advantage of the removable pilot reamer
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: osuarchitect</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hate, I'm not following you...are you suggesting that the solid pilot is non-piloted? </div></div>
No a solid pilot reamer is piloted but is far inferior to the removable piloted reamers.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: osuarchitect</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hate, I'm not following you...are you suggesting that the solid pilot is non-piloted? </div></div>
No a solid pilot reamer is piloted but is far inferior to the removable piloted reamers.
Re: what's the advantage of the removable pilot reamer
Ah ok, I re-read you post. I am with you now. For the record I am not planning on buying a reamer without the pilot.
I bought a ptg 30-06 removable pilot finish reamer and a solid pilot finish reamer for the 7mmRM. Have not got the reamers yet and was trying to figure out the differences and advantages. Both calibers are not in vogue but I think they are pretty darn solid cartridges, and I want to be able to use the aics 300WM magazines for both calibers...I have a plan at least.
Ah ok, I re-read you post. I am with you now. For the record I am not planning on buying a reamer without the pilot.
I bought a ptg 30-06 removable pilot finish reamer and a solid pilot finish reamer for the 7mmRM. Have not got the reamers yet and was trying to figure out the differences and advantages. Both calibers are not in vogue but I think they are pretty darn solid cartridges, and I want to be able to use the aics 300WM magazines for both calibers...I have a plan at least.
Re: what's the advantage of the removable pilot reamer
Over the years, I have bought 13 reamers for building my own guns, all solid pilot. Each has been used once or twice.
For someone else, I did buy a 7.62x54R reamer from Manson with floating pilot.
I used that floating pilot reamer.
I bought an extra pilot for it.
For me, the floating pilots are not worth it.
But I do buy in between pin gauges for dialing in the bore.
I just used a .2765 -" pin gauge for Lothar Walther 7mm barrel.
Over the years, I have bought 13 reamers for building my own guns, all solid pilot. Each has been used once or twice.
For someone else, I did buy a 7.62x54R reamer from Manson with floating pilot.
I used that floating pilot reamer.
I bought an extra pilot for it.
For me, the floating pilots are not worth it.
But I do buy in between pin gauges for dialing in the bore.
I just used a .2765 -" pin gauge for Lothar Walther 7mm barrel.
Re: what's the advantage of the removable pilot reamer
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Over the years, I have bought 13 reamers for building my own guns, all solid pilot. Each has been used once or twice.
For someone else, I did buy a 7.62x54R reamer from Manson with floating pilot.
I used that floating pilot reamer.
I bought an extra pilot for it.
For me, the floating pilots are not worth it.
But I do buy in between pin gauges for dialing in the bore.
I just used a .2765 -" pin gauge for Lothar Walther 7mm barrel.
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It's not worth it until you get that barrel that the bore is a little tight or worse a little big and your fixed piloted reamer won't work, then that removable piloted reamer might be worth it then.
Knowing enough about reamers and barrels now days I wouldn't chamber any barrel with a fixed piloted reamer and would never let a builder use a fixed piloted reamer on my barrel.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Over the years, I have bought 13 reamers for building my own guns, all solid pilot. Each has been used once or twice.
For someone else, I did buy a 7.62x54R reamer from Manson with floating pilot.
I used that floating pilot reamer.
I bought an extra pilot for it.
For me, the floating pilots are not worth it.
But I do buy in between pin gauges for dialing in the bore.
I just used a .2765 -" pin gauge for Lothar Walther 7mm barrel.
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It's not worth it until you get that barrel that the bore is a little tight or worse a little big and your fixed piloted reamer won't work, then that removable piloted reamer might be worth it then.
Knowing enough about reamers and barrels now days I wouldn't chamber any barrel with a fixed piloted reamer and would never let a builder use a fixed piloted reamer on my barrel.
Re: what's the advantage of the removable pilot reamer
I put a take off 308 Parker Hale sniper trainer bull barrel on a Tokarev pistol in 30 Mauser.
The bore of the Brit barrel is ~ .2985".
My Clymer 30 Mauser reamer fixed pilot would not fit.
I pounded a .3000" pin gauge into the breach.
I pounded it back out with a cleaning rod.
That disgusted the internet gunsmith, Z1R.
But if I own 150 handguns, it is the most accurate at 100 yards.
Other than that, I have never had a fixed pilot not fit.
I put a take off 308 Parker Hale sniper trainer bull barrel on a Tokarev pistol in 30 Mauser.
The bore of the Brit barrel is ~ .2985".
My Clymer 30 Mauser reamer fixed pilot would not fit.
I pounded a .3000" pin gauge into the breach.
I pounded it back out with a cleaning rod.
That disgusted the internet gunsmith, Z1R.
But if I own 150 handguns, it is the most accurate at 100 yards.
Other than that, I have never had a fixed pilot not fit.
