When is enough is enough?

[tomcatmv]

I was frankly floored by our potato-in-chiefs action's yesterday but I guess I shouldn't have been.
He has the gall to show up in Ukraine but can't go to our border here in Texas or the dumpster fire in Ohio. And it was President's Day for fuck sakes.
And like this act isn't going to make things worse with Putin and likely the CCP?
Billions for Ukraine but not a dime for our border security of helping out Ohio, oh well I did just see that finally the EPA is going to involved. If they're as incompetent as the Corps of Engineers, good luck with that.
Good luck America, we're going to need it.

 

[Short-bus]

I'm not surprised. I'm just disappointed that Russia didn't send in a well aimed artillery round of some variety. Even if it missed, I would take great join is watching our "fearless leader" shit his pants.

Branden

 

[MadDuner]

I'm not surprised. I'm just disappointed that Russia didn't send in a well aimed artillery round of some variety. Even if it missed, I would take great join is watching our "fearless leader" shit his pants.

Branden

I'm still waiting for mother nature or karma to take care of the problem for us.

 

[samadisoulcrusher]

Come on man . Mitch the bitch, says it's the most important thing in the world !
Just like his pal obama. Biden has the America last policy in full stride! When you need to launder billions.
War is the best answer .
FJB AND zelensky too! And every shill politician. Who supports the Ukraine laundromat.

 

[acudaowner]

in bidets sorry biden's eyes never . a dumster fire is what he is trying for and so far it's what he is getting .

 

[Hobo Hilton]

I'll over simplify the scenario.
America is focused on "diversions"... Ukraine, Corona, Harry and Megan, Streaming Entertainment, Half Time shows, Yellowstone, Stranger Things, etc.
The diversions have distracted them from watching "Food,Clothing and Shelter"....
One day they will wake up hungry, cold and homeless. Terrible to think about ...

 

[mvphilly]

I'm not surprised. I'm just disappointed that Russia didn't send in a well aimed artillery round of some variety. Even if it missed, I would take great join is watching our "fearless leader" shit his pants.

Branden

No need to waste a missile for him to shit his pants it happens with every step he takes.

 

[NoDopes]

Somebody recently told me that because they already stole 2 national elections they don't give a shit and don't have to pretend any more.

 

[wade2big]

Stop pretending government is composed of men and women that are trying to do what’s best for the people and you won’t be floored again. The people at the top without exception are all sociopathic criminals while the people underneath them are perfectly fine working to their satisfaction all for a paycheck and a promotion. Government doesn’t work for the people. It works to control them.

Something for the confused to watch and learn.

 

[Flyinghunter]

The term bread and circus (panem et circenses) was coined by the ancient Roman poet Juvenal in order to describe a method by which an unresponsive government can placate a population. Basically, for as long as the powerful are able to supply the masses with a rudimentary level of food and a steady stream on entertainment, they will be able to prevent a significant level of civil unrest.

 

[Hobo Hilton]

The term bread and circus (panem et circenses) was coined by the ancient Roman poet Juvenal in order to describe a method by which an unresponsive government can placate a population. Basically, for as long as the powerful are able to supply the masses with a rudimentary level of food and a steady stream on entertainment, they will be able to prevent a significant level of civil unrest.

Continue that story....... What does America's future like when bread and circus comes to an end ?
History repeating ?

 

[tomcatmv]

Well now, surprise, surprise! Now Xi is going to Moscow. So now the Chicom's, our biggest adversary, will likely be supplying the Ruskies with all sorts of fun toys.

 

[MadDuner]

Well now, surprise, surprise! Now Xi is going to Moscow. So now the Chicom's, our biggest adversary, will likely be supplying the Ruskies with all sorts of fun toys.

Axis vs Allies all over again.
Non-woke vs WEF.
How do you pick a side?

 

[Hobo Hilton]

Axis vs Allies all over again.
Non-woke vs WEF.
How do you pick a side?

A bit of recent "History"..... So, here we are, 10 years after this article was written. If you have not picked a side, you are late to the party. You are surrounded by millions of Americans who, long ago, picked their side... They chose the "ME Side".... Look around and see how that has worked out for America.

Generation Me​

10th December 2013 |​

3 minute read ​

​

Marketing to Gen Y is no longer about youth marketing. In 2014 Gen Y (variously dubbed GenMe, The Entitlement Generation, Millennials or NetGen – b. 1980-2000) is today’s new adult consumer. What are their core values, and how do we market effectively to them? Psychologist Dr Jean Twenge’s classic “Generation Me”, provides some essential evidence-led insights – and we add the marketing “So What?” for connecting with today’s new adults. https://brandgenetics.com/human-thinking/generation-me-speed-summary/​

 

[MadDuner]

A bit of recent "History"..... So, here we are, 10 years after this article was written. If you have not picked a side, you are late to the party. You are surrounded by millions of Americans who, long ago, picked their side... They chose the "ME Side".... Look around and see how that has worked out for America.

Generation Me​

10th December 2013 |​

3 minute read ​

​

Marketing to Gen Y is no longer about youth marketing. In 2014 Gen Y (variously dubbed GenMe, The Entitlement Generation, Millennials or NetGen – b. 1980-2000) is today’s new adult consumer. What are their core values, and how do we market effectively to them? Psychologist Dr Jean Twenge’s classic “Generation Me”, provides some essential evidence-led insights – and we add the marketing “So What?” for connecting with today’s new adults. https://brandgenetics.com/human-thinking/generation-me-speed-summary/​

Yes.
I see them all wearing their masks in their cars alone, with their Biden/Harris and Coexist stickers on their bumpers and their Ukraine flags in their email signatures..... all waiting in line at the drive-thru at Starbucks.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

Well now, surprise, surprise! Now Xi is going to Moscow. So now the Chicom's, our biggest adversary, will likely be supplying the Ruskies with all sorts of fun toys.

Chinas economy thrives on selling shit to USA and Europe. Most American and European's every day lives revolve around production coming out of China and the orient, toasters, iPhones, washing machine and what not.

China does that (giving Russia weapons) their economy is fucked. We cut off their oil flow from the Middle East. They are totally fucked. 1.3billion hungry people with no jobs and food get really pissy. We get no more cheap shit at Walmart lose some comfort but still have bread... just not circus. And we still have a powerful over the horizon military and produce enough oil to support it.

I know every one like to call china our advisory, and I get it.... but we do more trade with China than anything. Funny how that, working together to be prosperous, is the glue that could keep the lid on this war that every one seems to want.

 

[MCSO1357]

Until enough citizens wake up to the fact that America as it exists TODAY needs to be DEFEATED before we can restore it to how it was FOUNDED we will all just muddle along until collapse.

 

[wade2big]

Until enough citizens wake up to the fact that America as it exists TODAY needs to be DEFEATED before we can restore it to how it was FOUNDED we will all just muddle along until collapse.

I don’t know what that would take. The covid tyranny didn’t do it. The massive amounts of money being sent and laundered in Ukraine isn’t doing it. The massive gov’t funded and sanctioned foreign invasion of our southern border isn’t budging the needle. Political prisoners and the roundup of american citizens by a criminal DOJ isn’t changing minds. The pieces of shit in power sending people’s loved ones to get maimed and killed in foreign wars under false pretenses and to absolutely no benefit to the people of this country hasn’t done it. There are ongoing threads here in the pit about potential candidates in the next fake election. Damn people are stupid.

 

[NoDopes]

I don’t know what that would take. The covid tyranny didn’t do it. The massive amounts of money being sent and laundered in Ukraine isn’t doing it. The massive gov’t funded and sanctioned foreign invasion of our southern border isn’t budging the needle. Political prisoners and the roundup of american citizens by a criminal DOJ isn’t changing minds. The pieces of shit in power sending people’s loved ones to get maimed and killed in foreign wars under false pretenses and to absolutely no benefit to the people of this country hasn’t done it. There are ongoing threads here in the pit about potential candidates in the next fake election. Damn people are stupid.

You left out the biggest one... uncontested stolen election. Twice. Stick a fork in it.

 

[n2ishun]

Until enough citizens wake up to the fact that America as it exists TODAY needs to be DEFEATED before we can restore it to how it was FOUNDED we will all just muddle along until collapse.

+1
Only problem.
It will never be restored to how it was intended.
It will be restored to even shittier.

 

[cas6969]

Come on now, be fair. He didn't know where he was.

 

[MCSO1357]

I don’t know what that would take. The covid tyranny didn’t do it. The massive amounts of money being sent and laundered in Ukraine isn’t doing it. The massive gov’t funded and sanctioned foreign invasion of our southern border isn’t budging the needle. Political prisoners and the roundup of american citizens by a criminal DOJ isn’t changing minds. The pieces of shit in power sending people’s loved ones to get maimed and killed in foreign wars under false pretenses and to absolutely no benefit to the people of this country hasn’t done it. There are ongoing threads here in the pit about potential candidates in the next fake election. Damn people are stupid.

Agreed. I cannot put into words the disappointment I still feel in my fellow citizens’ willing to mindlessly comply with the COVID bullshit.

 

[Jgault]

I'm not surprised. I'm just disappointed that Russia didn't send in a well aimed artillery round of some variety. Even if it missed, I would take great join is watching our "fearless leader" shit his pants.

Branden

From what I’ve seen of the Russian military of late(and throughout their history really) if thet would have fired a artillery round it probably would have landed a few miles off course, Russian and well aimed has always been a contradiction in terms, but I get the sentiment. What costed 7 million Rubles to develop, weighs 500 pounds, and cuts an apple into 5 pieces? A Russian 6 slice apple cutter. Concerning the question when will it stop, when the 40% of the population who votes based on their favorite Twitter influencer and is generally dumb as a hammer(but less useful than said hammer) either starves to death or at least starves enough to change their world view that all that matters is how something makes someone feel vs what is actual reality.

 

[Lightning8]

From what I’ve seen of the Russian military of late(and throughout their history really) if thet would have fired a artillery round it probably would have landed a few miles off course, Russian and well aimed has always been a contradiction in terms, but I get the sentiment. What costed 7 million Rubles to develop, weighs 500 pounds, and cuts an apple into 5 pieces? A Russian 6 slice apple cutter. Concerning the question when will it stop, when the 40% of the population who votes based on their favorite Twitter influencer and is generally dumb as a hammer(but less useful than said hammer) either starves to death or at least starves enough to change their world view that all that matters is how something makes someone feel vs what is actual reality.

Somehow the Russians defeated the Germans they faced completely and unequivocally in WW2.

 

[theLBC]

it has been a long train of abuses...

 

[chevy_man]

I'm not surprised. I'm just disappointed that Russia didn't send in a well aimed artillery round of some variety. Even if it missed, I would take great join is watching our "fearless leader" shit his pants.

Branden

He shits his pants doing nothing. Why would you think it needs to be special?

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

I'm not surprised. I'm just disappointed that Russia didn't send in a well aimed artillery round of some variety. Even if it missed, I would take great join is watching our "fearless leader" shit his pants.

Branden

No foreign government is killing that potato. They can't believe their luck. The president of the United States of America can't even form a complete sentence or walk without help. They have owned him for decades and he is absolutely ineffective in his own country. They can do whatever they want to, and this barely animated corpse can't even read from a teleprompter. Our enemies will probably contribute to his re-election.

-never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake.

 

[Carlos Danger]

The more he travels by plane the greater the chance gravity will grant my wish.

 

[W54/XM-388]

I don’t know what that would take.

The answer is way beyond looking at the government.

The Global Elites who run things are much smarter than most people think, and are willing to play the long game.

The answer is they can get away with doing nearly anything they want, so long as they do it slow enough and with enough propaganda and make sure that those who could do something about it are either, paid off, too discouraged to do anything, to ostracized to be listened to, or simply have too much still left to lose.

As much as folks will hate me for saying it, you can go all the way back to the old testament and find the route of so many of the problems today.
Lending money for interest, there was a reason it was banned originally.
Having kings, God said they were a bad idea, God warned what would happen. But just like thousands of years ago, sheeple want rulers, they want to be ruled, over, that want that comforting feeling of the boot on their neck.

Things are not going to get better, they are only going to get way worse.
The only real hope of fixing it, is a complete collapse of everything (which would include a massive die off), which leaves nothing, no power structures, no nothing left at all. How that happens could be a number of ways, but barring that you might as well position yourself to live in the new Global Feudal Order as that's what's coming soon and it will be every bit as horrible and life will be every bit as horrible as it was 1000 years ago when that was the standard way the world was run.

 

[UKDslayer]

Things are not going to get better, they are only going to get way worse.
The only real hope of fixing it, is a complete collapse of everything (which would include a massive die off), which leaves nothing, no power structures, no nothing left at all. How that happens could be a number of ways, but barring that you might as well position yourself to live in the new Global Feudal Order as that's what's coming soon and it will be every bit as horrible and life will be every bit as horrible as it was 1000 years ago when that was the standard way the world was run.

This will happen, but it won't get better. It will to a treaaty with the AC.

 

[Jgault]

Somehow the Russians defeated the Germans they faced completely and unequivocally in WW2.

Winter defeated the Germans aided by the Italian collapse at Stalingrad leaving the Germans surrounded. Until winter came Germany was running through Russia like a freight train. The Russian military mindset has always been to use men(and women and children for that matter) as cannon fodder drawing a opposing army deeper into Russia, burning their own towns and supplies and to let winter take its toll, then attack a depleted adversary. Russia is the definition of overwhelming force losses be damned, not precision. Not to mention Germany didn’t do itself any favors by trying to fight a war on 3 fronts a thousand miles apart against the rest of the world.

 

[Oldloser]

Winter defeated the Germans aided by the Italian collapse at Stalingrad leaving the Germans surrounded. Until winter came Germany was running through Russia like a freight train. The Russian military mindset has always been to use men(and women and children for that matter) as cannon fodder drawing a opposing army deeper into Russia, burning their own towns and supplies and to let winter take its toll, then attack a depleted adversary. Russia is the definition of overwhelming force losses be damned, not precision. Not to mention Germany didn’t do itself any favors by trying to fight a war on 3 fronts a thousand miles apart against the rest of the world.

Russia was doomed until the West agreed to logistically support it.

All the food, clothes, trucks and avgas for the Red Army came from the West. Western Steel, Russian Blood.

Lend Lease doomed Germany. The Iran corridor allowed the West to deliver a massive and sustained log trail right into the front lines.

Fox Connor and Marshall got Roosevelt to abandon the New Deal and had him Hire Knudsen to run the re-armament.

Arch Capitalist helps Commies beat Socialists. The irony!

 

[UKDslayer]

Chinas economy thrives on selling shit to USA and Europe. Most American and European's every day lives revolve around production coming out of China and the orient, toasters, iPhones, washing machine and what not.

China does that (giving Russia weapons) their economy is fucked. We cut off their oil flow from the Middle East. They are totally fucked. 1.3billion hungry people with no jobs and food get really pissy. We get no more cheap shit at Walmart lose some comfort but still have bread... just not circus. And we still have a powerful over the horizon military and produce enough oil to support it.

I know every one like to call china our advisory, and I get it.... but we do more trade with China than anything. Funny how that, working together to be prosperous, is the glue that could keep the lid on this war that every one seems to want.

We are not gong to stop importing from China. The shortages after the Pandemic and with shipping supply chain disruption should have been a massive wake-up call that we are not manufacturing critical items here, and we will pay for it much it. Pharmaceutical and medical equipment manufacturing should have been started immediately across the US, but it wasn't. Biden has made commitments to Xi, that's why the balloon wasn't destroyed, anything else is lip service. But Americans can't give up thereap stuff. Yes, its hard.

So, last night I was in Target, and I happened to go by a stack of Levi's clearanced off at 80%, and in my size no less. Then I remembered that POS heir and what he said at one of the recent hearings. I will never support him in any way, and did not purchase the Levi's. Realistically, much of what we consume comes from (and whom the profit goes) to those we morality object to. But for now, when I can make a direct connection, I will try to exercise decisions as best I can.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

We are not gong to stop importing from China. The shortages after the Pandemic and with shipping supply chain disruption should have been a massive wake-up call that we are not manufacturing critical items here, and we will pay for it much it. Pharmaceutical and medical equipment manufacturing should have been started immediately across the US, but it wasn't. Biden has made commitments to Xi, that's why the balloon wasn't destroyed, anything else is lip service. But Americans can't give up thereap stuff. Yes, its hard.

So, last night I was in Target, and I happened to go by a stack of Levi's clearanced off at 80%, and in my size no less. Then I remembered that POS heir and what he said at one of the recent hearings. I will never support him in any way, and did not purchase the Levi's. Realistically, much of what we consume comes from (and whom the profit goes) to those we morality object to. But for now, when I can make a direct connection, I will try to exercise decisions as best I can.

Don’t get me started on the Barroon… But not like we aren’t doing the same shit. China doesn’t have near as much of a naval or airborne surveillance presence off our coast as we do off the cost of China so we need to keep that in perspective. We spy on them, so getting your panties in a wad when they do it… thats called being a hypocrite.

I guess what I am getting at is we are connected to China. In some ways that can be a good thing. I would prefer we keep the peace and positive relationship when possible. That doesn’t mean we won’t have disputes and disagreements. That doesn’t mean we should allow people like this guy to sell them our secrets. Or sell off chunks of our industry, like has happened

Engineer gets 32 years in prison for military secrets sale | US news | The Guardian

Prosecutors said Gowadia helped China design stealth cruise missile to help pay $15,000-a-month mortgage on luxurious home overlooking ocean on Maui

amp.theguardian.com

Remember, there is a benefit to keeping china as an ally.

 

[RPN]

France's biggest trading partner in both 1913 and 1938 was........ Germany.

Draw your own conclusions about how secure that made the relationship.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

France's biggest trading partner in both 1913 and 1938 was........ Germany.

Draw your own conclusions about how secure that made the relationship.

Was Vichy France a Puppet Government or a Willing Nazi Collaborator?

The authoritarian government led by Marshal Pétain participated in Jewish expulsions and turned France into a quasi-police state

www.smithsonianmag.com

I had a Spanish teacher in highschool who was from the South of France. Very pro German anti US solider teaching in an American High School… a large portion of France was not into war with Germany. Ole Vichy French…

 

[W54/XM-388]

Was Vichy France a Puppet Government or a Willing Nazi Collaborator?

The authoritarian government led by Marshal Pétain participated in Jewish expulsions and turned France into a quasi-police state

www.smithsonianmag.com

I had a Spanish teacher in highschool who was from the South of France. Very pro German anti US solider teaching in an American High School… a large portion of France was not into war with Germany. Ole Vichy French…

France invades Germany, Germany invades France and so on and so forth.
3000+ years of European history is everyone taking a turn doing the invading, slaughtering, pillaging and raping.
Everybody gets to take a turn being the recipient.
Plenty of survival of the fittest, or the best able to breed or the best able to work.

So of course when the Europeans happened to start taking their favourite pastimes to other countries, everyone soon found out the Europeans were some of the best there was at the whole thing...

 

[nikerret]

I don’t know what that would take. The covid tyranny didn’t do it. The massive amounts of money being sent and laundered in Ukraine isn’t doing it. The massive gov’t funded and sanctioned foreign invasion of our southern border isn’t budging the needle. Political prisoners and the roundup of american citizens by a criminal DOJ isn’t changing minds. The pieces of shit in power sending people’s loved ones to get maimed and killed in foreign wars under false pretenses and to absolutely no benefit to the people of this country hasn’t done it. There are ongoing threads here in the pit about potential candidates in the next fake election. Damn people are stupid.

I‘m convinced nothing major will happen while the US citizenry has electricity, running water, and internet.

The COVID BS didn’t work because it wasn’t enforced in a lot of areas that wouldn’t put up with it and many in the areas that had the most BS demanded more.

The true effect of our southern border isn’t realized, by those not living by it. It’s a slow change and everyone is well distracted.

The January 6th political prisoners are a relatively few number of people. I don’t know anyone who has mentioned knowing anyone who was there-let alone know someone confined for going.

You left out the biggest one... uncontested stolen election. Twice. Stick a fork in it.

This is like the issues I addressed from Wade’s post. Not enough people care, for whatever reason.


Now, there are a lot of people who do care and see problems. What do we do? I don’t even know where to start that will actually matter.

I contact my representatives, but they are generally already going close to what I consider the correct direction. If my contribution does affect their decision (unlikely), I’m still from a State that doesn’t matter (in regard to votes at the federal level).

Supporting associations and groups like GOA and other pro-2A stuff is great, but that’s only as good as the government allows and doesn’t do anything for the issues mentioned.

 

[nikerret]

Now, there are a lot of people who do care and see problems. What do we do? I don’t even know where to start that will actually matter.

I’m quoting myself, in case someone came up with something other than bitching about it.