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Why are liberals so violent?

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    Interesting read. Not fully comprehensive but worth the time.


    Why Are Liberals So Violent?

    By Craig Shirley and Scott Mauer | July 3, 2018 | 12:35 PM EDT



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    Congresswoman Maxine Waters (Screenshot)
    “I’m going to find the Congressman’s kids and kill them.”
    These words weren’t written in a novel from some evil villain, hell-bent on destroying a politician’s life. They weren’t said in a movie where the FBI or CIA track down some domestic terrorist.
    They were allegedly said by a man named Laurence Wayne Key, from Florida. The target were the children of House Representative Brian Mast, Republican.
    The motive? Purely political: Key continued, allegedly calling Mast’s office, “If you’re going to separate kids at the border, I’m going to kill his kids. Don’t try to find me because you won’t.” It’s an ironic twist of fate that he would be worried about the children of illegal aliens, since he volunteered at a local Planned Parenthood for much of his time. Of course, maybe that explains everything. Apparently, to Key, killing children is no different from killing a fly.
    Senator Rand Paul was assaulted by his next door neighbor, not for the way he trimmed his hedges, but for his conservatism.
    Last week, the congresswoman Maxine Walters called for leftists to get out and “create a crowd, and you push back on them [the Trump administration]. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.” She claimed she did not urge them to do violence, but does anybody doubt she in fact was?
    Can anyone forget the ugly and twisted look on the face of the female college professor, calling for some “muscle” to get rid of someone she disagreed with? On a public campus?
    Such is the modern Democratic and liberal party, where violence trumps dialogue, where calls for the heads of politicians and their kin are more than just words, they’re actual threats.
    You could write a book on the violence of liberalism, going back centuries. The French Revolution of the 1780s, which saw the overthrow of the near millennium-old monarchy, quickly turned from a noble cause, inspired by the success of the American Revolution, to a violent slaughter. The appropriately-named Reign of Terror saw the deaths of nearly 17,000 people in one year’s time. Anyone remotely suspected of being a Loyalist, or even not actively supporting the Revolution, were sentenced to death: beheading, hanging, drowning, any means to silence the non-revolutionary cause. Catholic nuns and priests, seen as nothing more than the religious elite and arm of the French Crown, were murdered. Some of them fled, especially to the newly-formed United States of America, which looked at the bloodshed with horror from such a recent ally. Leader Maximilien Robespierre saw nothing wrong with it: “Terror is nothing more than speedy, severe and inflexible justice,” he said.



    Fast forward, and the Reign of Terror continued in other left-leaning countries. The Soviet Union, the supposed beacon of communism and workers’ rights, where the dictatorship of the proletariat was to rule over the dictatorship of the bourgeoise, was directly responsible for millions of deaths. All for “counter-revolutionary” activities, which included anything from criticizing the state to worshipping an unsanctioned god (which was them all; in an atheistic society, there is no god except the State). Joseph Stalin, the paranoid madman, personally saw to the Great Purge, killing his own officials and about a million others deemed undesirable. Though the worst was behind them, the policies of the Soviet Union more or less continued until its dissolution in 1991. Millions, sometimes for the most mundane reasons, or no reason at all, were tried in a kangaroo court and shipped off to gulags, places where no human was to live, for slave labor. If you didn’t meet your quota for the day, you had a cut in your already-depleted rations, which, ultimately, made you lose your quota again, which saw a further depletion. The so-called “workers’ paradise” hardly seemed that way for its inhabitants. Socialist countries around the world – Cuba, Venezuela, China, the Iron Curtain states, you name it – had this same procedure: arrest, jail, execute anyone who dare criticized the communist state or ideology.
    And we know all about Hitler, the National Socialist, who institutionalized violence against anyone who earned his ire to an art form, at least in Nazi Germany.
    But hey, nothing like that can happen here, right?

    Well, blame it on the President himself, the rise of anti-intellectualism, the “me generation” and obsession of victimization, but it certainly can. Antifa, the band of hooligans, justify their own vandalism, their own assault on persons and rights, for their “anti-fascist” ideology. Wherever they were, so too were riots. Graffiti at the University of California, Berkeley College appeared everywhere: “Kill Trump” was one of the more prominent messages displayed on buildings.
    A history lesson for any members of Antifa reading this: If your protests end up looking more like Kristallnacht in 1938, then you aren’t “anti-fascists” at all.
    Let’s face it, most liberals are perpetually dyspeptic, perpetually unhappy that the world is not following their edits. Deep down, they know collectivist is a failed ideology, which makes them even more angry.
    Let’s list other instances of American “tolerant” liberalism through the decades. There’s Lee Harvey Oswald, the failed Soviet asylum seeker and murderer of President John Kennedy. There’s the eco-terrorists like the Unabomber, the antiwar Weathermen, responsible for bombings, including the U.S. Capitol in February 1971. There’s James Hodgkinson, who attempted to murder on a beautiful June day several Republican congressmen, nearly killing Steve Scalise. He had been a crazed supporter of Bernie Sanders (is there any other kind?) so it was no secret what his motives were. There’s Floyd Lee Corkins, who in 2012, taking his cue from the Southern Poverty Law Center’s designation, broke into the Family Research Council, guns blazing. And now there’s Maxine Waters, who said the following: “f you see anybody from that cabinet [the Trump administration] in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”
    Both individual and state-sponsored terrorism and murder and violence is nothing new, but there’s something to be said when an ideology places the collective over the individual. To place the group before the individual is to deny the humanity of the person, where the means of achieving a “utopia” is justified. Violence, murder, slave labor – all is right in the collectivists’ minds.
    Craig Shirley is a presidential historian and author of four bestsellers on President Ronald Reagan, his latest being “Reagan Rising: The Decisive Years, 1976-1980.” He also has a political biography on Newt Gingrich, “Citizen Newt.” Scott Mauer is Craig Shirley’s researcher.
     
    because they borrowed $100k-200k to attend a 4 year long communist indoctrination camp thinking they were getting an education, only to find out that unless they were STEM they will be on welfare the rest of their lives getting laughed at by their HS drop out cousins making $100-200k /yr as an electrition or plumber with no student debt.

    They are not violent they are bitterly angry
     
    I dunno man, I blame the internet, specifically the concept of echo chambers for what we see today. The us vs them attitude is more prevalent then ever. No one likes to discuss and argue anymore. They just want to plug their ears and yell at others.
    To be fair whenever antifa comes out to counter protest they are usually protesting alt-right neo-nazis, not your run of the mill conservatives. But their violence shouldn't be tolerated just because people (neonazis) think they're better because they are white. I don't know why antifa validates such stupendously retarded ideas by counterprotesting. Maybe it explains how dumb stupendously retarded antifa is as well.
     
    ...To be fair whenever antifa comes out to counter protest they are usually protesting alt-right neo-nazis, not your run of the mill conservatives...
    In theory I agree with you but in practical application ANTIFA sees anyone and everyone that doesn’t 100% agree with them as acceptable targets, anyone on the right and even moderate liberals are targets. Last year at a rally in Dallas ANTIFA attacked Black Lives Matter
     
    The Liberal has a Guru who promises the solution to all life's problems, but you mist do as he says. It is a given that it would be good to solve all problems so anyone who does not do as the guru commands must be evil. By definition the followers of the guru are good. Good must fight evil so anything they do to us is justified.
     
    Why are liberals so violent ?
    Well, they arent...... really....
    ISIS is violent.
    Liberals are grown up people, who,
    in diapers, pitched tantrums when they didnt get their way, broke their toys, threw food, and acted pure asses.
    Whose parents failed to discipline them, who failed to learn self discipline, who practice no restraint in trying to get their way, crying, whining, tantrum, screaming, throwing shit, bullying, just being asses to get their way.
    Pre adolescent adults in need of a real spanking and discipline....
    ISIS is violent. Just sayin...
     
    Birds of a feather as far as I’m concerned. Can you name a single leftist policy proscription that does not involve using force against the governed?

    You don’t even have to know the question to know how a leftist will answer. The answer is ALWAYS force.
     
    When your entire ideology goes counter to 100,000 years of human evolution and nature, the only way you can win is by killing your opponents... or cowing them.

    Humans got to where they are by being acquisitive, inquisitive, independent-minded, tool-making, wealth-acquiring, questioning, creative, critters... Liberalism demands everyone fitting into a lowest-common-denominator, ruled over by an educated elite. They won't tell you that, but anyone with two synapses firing knows that is the end game of the Communists/Progressives/Liberals/Democratic Party. It is apparent, 100 percent, in their actions. And outcomes.

    So when your message is not resonating, you get violent. See Robespierre, above.

    ANTIFA is the very definition of Facist. That they are calling themselves the protectors of Democracy and the vangard of the Democratic Party is a sick joke. They are the Brownshirts, the Schutstaffel, the NKVD, the KGB, the DGI, the Stasi... all rolled into one. Closer, though, to the Brownshirts, historically. If their commie bosses ever get into power, they will instantly be the SS et. al. Right now, they are 100 percent a recreation of the Brownshirts.

    And that ended well.

    Cheers,

    Sirhr
     
    Their behavior is that of a person who has no way to control themselves or environment by rational, intelligent reasoning based on real-life experience. It’s primal behavior. Because they have no tools to cope with a reality they are learning has been a lie their entire life.
     
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    Perhaps I should have titled it "Why are the liberals so STUPID.

    But they're not! They're educated, for the most part erudite. Many very wealthy...

    Then again, in the last century, a people who were the most technologically-advanced, had the best scientists, the industrial might of the Western World, culture dating back centuries, philosophers, amazing musicians, artists, and a cosmopolitan society...

    Succumbed to Socialism... well, National Socialism... and managed to turn 6 million Europeans into air pollution, kill tens of millions more... and leave their nation with hardly two bricks standing on top of each other. Because they were stupid?

    No... because they believed a dog and pony show led by an Austrian Housepainter-ex-corporal who used his brownshirts to quell opposition while promising Bread, jobs and the trains running on time. He achieved all three. Right before he destroyed an ancient Germanic culture, leaving nothing behind by Dresden Fun-boys and Angela Merkel.

    They are not stupid. They are gullible, misled and, in the case of the ANTIFA-types... pure psychos who just need a cause at which to direct their sociopathic personalities and failure at anything they did in life. The Brownshirts were not the best and the brightest. They were the most-violent and easiest to program.

    History may not repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme a lot!

    Cheers,

    Sirhr
     
    Perhaps I should have titled it "Why are the liberals so STUPID.

    Modern Progressive Liberals are far from stupid. However, there's a big difference between being book smart and being street smart. These college Antifa fags are very book smart about selective things, but have no street smart in them at all. When I see them Antifa shitheads protesting and being violent, I don't see a crowd against Fascism. I see straight up Fascism in action! This is what happens when you coddle kids their whole lives. Their temper tantrums become much more violent when they're adults (and I use that word rather loosely). I'd bet anything that them Antifa punks never got a trip behind the woodshed from their daddys.
     
    Watching the BLM vs ANTIFA video was interesting. I will admit that if an ANTIFA member, male or female, yells into my face to hit them, they are going to get hit, multiple times. They hide behind masks because they are afraid the people they bully will find them one on one and the narrative would then change. Cowards and pack animals.
     
    @Maser & Sirh...

    Again, Stupid may not have been the best choice of words.

    However:

    I dont (necessarily) equate education with intelligence. Nor wisdom. You can teach a dog tricks. Remember KoKo the gorilla? Some of the most educated people I know are some of the least intelligent. They have some knowledge and they think they have it all.

    So allow me to paint with a broad brush and a bit of poetic license.

    Anybody who wants to bring communism to their home is:

    FUCKING STUPID.
     
    They sure are working #8. Dividing between black, white, Hispanic, liberal, conservative, wealthy, poor. Theyre leaving no seam un torn.

    Race and "class" divides have been being used to usurp the foundation of this country for over 100 years, it seems everybody forgets all of history and blindly follows the pied piper to their next set of heavier chains once the music of "Race" or "Rich people with too much money" starts playing, it's almost funny how many times it's been pulled off successfully over the past 110 years.
     
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    @Maser & Sirh...

    Again, Stupid may not have been the best choice of words.

    However:

    I dont (necessarily) equate education with intelligence. Nor wisdom. You can teach a dog tricks. Remember KoKo the gorilla? Some of the most educated people I know are some of the least intelligent. They have some knowledge and they think they have it all.

    So allow me to paint with a broad brush and a bit of poetic license.

    Anybody who wants to bring communism to their home is:

    FUCKING STUPID.

    Actually now that I think of it, I take back what I said about Progressive Liberals not being stupid. I was confusing stupidity with ignorance. Ignorance simply means that you're uneducated about something, but are willing to learn if you wanted to such as me being ignorant about Pokemon. Stupidity on the other hand pretty much means you lack common sense. Such as touching a hot stove and then wonder why it hurt. So yeah, being against Fascism while engaging in Fascist tactics is as Mr. Maggot says, "FUCKING STUPID"!
     
    In theory I agree with you but in practical application ANTIFA sees anyone and everyone that doesn’t 100% agree with them as acceptable targets, anyone on the right and even moderate liberals are targets. Last year at a rally in Dallas ANTIFA attacked Black Lives Matter
    The culture the U.S. used to have IS better than the culture of all the shithole countries we keep importing democrat voters from.
     
    They sure are working #8. Dividing between black, white, Hispanic, liberal, conservative, wealthy, poor. Theyre leaving no seam un torn.
    I watched the movie The Purge last night and the rich white folks in Hollywood could not have done a much better job of vilifying rich white folks, maybe they will be the first to get purged.
     
    I watched the movie The Purge last night and the rich white folks in Hollywood could not have done a much better job of vilifying rich white folks, maybe they will be the first to get purged.

    Are you kidding me?! If there was a spot higher than #1, Antifa would be on that spot of folks to be purged first. There are plenty of folks out there who think of Antifa as the American version of ISIS. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if we start seeing beheading videos from them showing up on the net.
     
    The Libs are violent because

    When people won't accept their Commie philosophy, they will shove it down their throats.
     
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    When your entire ideology goes counter to 100,000 years of human evolution and nature, the only way you can win is by killing your opponents... or cowing them.

    Humans got to where they are by being acquisitive, inquisitive, independent-minded, tool-making, wealth-acquiring, questioning, creative, critters... Liberalism demands everyone fitting into a lowest-common-denominator, ruled over by an educated elite. They won't tell you that, but anyone with two synapses firing knows that is the end game of the Communists/Progressives/Liberals/Democratic Party. It is apparent, 100 percent, in their actions. And outcomes.

    So when your message is not resonating, you get violent. See Robespierre, above.

    ANTIFA is the very definition of Facist. That they are calling themselves the protectors of Democracy and the vangard of the Democratic Party is a sick joke. They are the Brownshirts, the Schutstaffel, the NKVD, the KGB, the DGI, the Stasi... all rolled into one. Closer, though, to the Brownshirts, historically. If their commie bosses ever get into power, they will instantly be the SS et. al. Right now, they are 100 percent a recreation of the Brownshirts.

    And that ended well.

    Cheers,

    Sirhr

    You post some good stuff. Maybe not really good but really truthful and shows how all the puzzle pieces fit together. Dark times ahead.
     
    The entire liberal ideology is based on emotions, feelings, not logic or factual data.
    That's why the only freedoms they are concerned with are crotch-centric.

    When they are confronted with logical factual data that huffpo didn't prepare them for, the first emotion to surface is anger.
     
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    The entire liberal ideology is based on emotions, feelings, not logic or factual data.
    That's why the only freedoms they are concerned with are crotch-centric.

    When they are confronted with logical factual data that huffpo didn't prepare them for, the first emotion to surface is anger.

    That is an excellent point. If you ever watch and argument between liberals and conservatives it usually goes down the same path. As soon as logic starts to win terms like racist, sexist, homophobe or xenophobe are used to switch the argument to emotional and then it becomes a shouting match.
     
    All the idiot terrorists that post beheading videos are such scum, they can't even post a decent beheading.
    They seem to think they should be proud of their stupid taking forever to cut off someone's head with a dull knife.

    If you can't figure out to behead someone in one clean smooth stroke, then you should be hiding your head in shame, not posting your stupidity and lack of skill for all your fellow stupid terrorists to see how stupid of a sand monkey you are.
     
    All the idiot terrorists that post beheading videos are such scum, they can't even post a decent beheading.
    They seem to think they should be proud of their stupid taking forever to cut off someone's head with a dull knife.

    If you can't figure out to behead someone in one clean smooth stroke, then you should be hiding your head in shame, not posting your stupidity and lack of skill for all your fellow stupid terrorists to see how stupid of a sand monkey you are.

    Whole purpose of dull knife and crudeness, is to inflict further pain on the watching families of hostages, and terrorize the other sheep into fear paralysis. It's not stupidity, its intentional. And they are enjoying it..... getting off on it.
     
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    Whole purpose of dull knife and crudeness, is to inflict further pain on the watching family, and terrorize the other sheep into fear paralysis. It's not stupidity, its intentional.

    I guess if you are an idiot with no imagination which I guess is them.
     
    Whole purpose of dull knife and crudeness, is to inflict further pain on the watching families of hostages, and terrorize the other sheep into fear paralysis. It's not stupidity, its intentional. And they are enjoying it..... getting off on it.

    You have to remember that the ISIS/ISIL vids we have seen are all propaganda vids where they act as brutal as humanly possible to inflict fear on the viewers. Not trying to sound like a Billy Badass here, but I personally don't think of fear when I see people being burned alive in cages or sawing off the heads of people who are tied up. The word I think is cowards.
     
    The problem is that Muslims today see Christians as pacifist pussies who can be scared into submission with a bit of low class brutal violence.

    Some of us on the other hand could hold our own in discussions with the most martyrdom fanatical Shiites in regards to the historical suffering glory of those that died for our faith and the possibility of future martyrdom as well as the relative relation between horrible martyrdom and Rank hath it's privileges in the place of the prophets. That and some of us could debate with the 13th Imam believers that their version of the final battle between good and evil is pretty lame and skips most of the most fun brutal parts..... I mean they don't even clearly define the input parameters of the river of blood that is supposed to result...

    Once upon a time when the first great wars were fought between Christians and Muslims, the Muslims understood the Christians were ruthless, brutal, sadistic, bloodthirsty religious zealots just as much to be feared as them.

    Then somebody starts preaching peace, love, forgiveness and next thing you know you don't get any respect in savage town.
     
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