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Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

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  • Jul 27, 2007
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    Forget those phishing emails that attempt to get your credit card or bank sign-in information. When crooks want to know how to get into your bank account, they post a message on Facebook. These messages appear so innocuous and so appropriate in the Facebook setting that you are likely to not only get conned, but pass on the scam.


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    Facebook is the new frontier for fraud, says Tom Clare, head of product marketing at Blue Coat, an Internet security company that does annual reports on web threats. In just this past year social networks have soared to 4th from 17th most treacherous web terrain -- behind porn and software-sharing sites, which you probably know to avoid.

    What makes Facebook so treacherous? Us.

    It starts with the fact that we are inundated with requests to set up passwords to get into our work computers, our online bank accounts, Facebook and every other web-based subscription. So what do we do? We use the same password.

    "Crooks understand that most users use the same password for everything," says Clare. "If they can get your user credentials for your Facebook account, there's a good chance that they have the password for your bank account."

    If you are smart enough to have separate passwords for Facebook and your financial accounts, crooks get at you through a variety phishing attempts that you might think are Facebook games and widgets. But look closely and you'll realize that they deliver answers to all of your bank's security questions -- and possibly clues to your passwords -- right into the hands of the crooks.

    Think it couldn't happen to you? Let's see if you recognize any of these recent Facebook messages that jeopardize your security. All of these came from my Facebook friends in just the past few weeks:

    1. Who knows you best?

    The message reads:

    Can you do this? My middle name __________, my age ___, my favorite soda _______, my birthday ___/___/___, whose the love of my life ______, my best friend _____, my favorite color ______, my eye color _______, my hair color ______ my favorite food ________ and my mom's name __________. Put this as your status and see who knows you best.

    How many of these are the same facts your bank asks to verify your identity? Put this as your status and everybody -- including all the people who want to hijack your bank account and credit cards -- will know you well enough to make a viable attempt.

    2. Your friend [Name here] just answered a question about you!

    Was it possible that an old friend answered a question about me that I needed to "unlock?" Absolutely. But when you click on the link, the next screen should give you pause: 21 Questions is requesting permission to ... (a) access your name, profile picture, gender, networks, user ID, friends and any other information shared with everyone ... (b) send you email ... (c) post to your wall ... and ... (d) access your data any time ... regardless of whether or not you're using their application.

    Can you take that access back -- ever? It sure doesn't look like it. There's no reference to how you can stop them from future access to your data in their "terms and conditions." Worse, it appears that to "unlock" the answer in your friend's post, you need to answer a bunch of questions about your other friends and violate their privacy too. I didn't give 21 Questions access to my information, but the roughly 850 people who joined "People Who Hate 21 Questions on Facebook" apparently have and can give you insight into just how pernicious this program can be.

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    3. LOL. Look at the video I found of you!

    This is the most dangerous of all the spam messages and it comes in a variety of forms, says Clare. It's actually a bid to surreptitiously install malware on your computer. This malware can track your computer keystrokes and record your sign-in and password information with all of your online accounts.

    How does it work? When you click on the link, it says that you need to upgrade your video player to see the clip. If you hit the "upgrade" button, it opens your computer to the crooks, who ship in their software. You may be completely unaware of it until you start seeing strange charges hit your credit cards or bank account. Up-to-date security software should stop the download. If you don't have that, watch out.

    Better yet, if you really think some friend is sending you a video clip, double-check with the friend to be sure before you click on the link. When I messaged my high-school classmate to ask if she'd really sent this, she was horrified. Her Facebook account had been hijacked and anyone who clicked through was likely to have their account hijacked too. That's how this virus spreads virally.

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    4. We're stuck!

    It started out as an email scam, but now the "We're stuck in [Europe/Asia/Canada] and need money" scam has moved to instant messages on Facebook, where it can be more effective. Most people have learned not to react to the email, but instant messages help crooks by forcing you to react emotionally -- They're right there. They need help, now. A friend got one of these messages last week from the parents of a close friend. Her reaction was the perfect way to deal with it: She immediately called her friend and said "Have you talked to your parents lately?" The response: "Yeah. They're right here."

    Facebook has launched a security system to combat account hijacking that allows crooks to send messages and posts through your account. You can get updates on what they're doing at Facebook's security page, where they've also got a nice little security quiz that's definitely worth taking.
     
    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    People are always going to be stupid with their passwords.

    Facebook and the like can only do so much in trying to protect you from yourself.
     
    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    I've seen more than one idiot fired for Facebook postings, especially for unauthorized pictures and videos.

    Never had it, never will.
     
    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    I have been in IT Security for a while and Facebook is a honeypot for social attacks. For business I see the need, for a person -- delete
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    (none what so ever)delete. The closest I get is Linked in which is a business forum.
     
    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For business I see the need, for a person -- none what so ever.</div></div>

    I do. I use Facebook to keep track of my friends and family, and to allow them to keep track of me. I restrict my friends list to people I actually know, for the most part.

    As for phishing and social network attacks - that can be a problem if you don't pay attention to what you're doing. The remedy is to pay attention. That's true about many activities in life. Lots of things will simply kill you if you do them without paying attention.
     
    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    Any place that has 500 million members online is going to attract crooks.
    Facebook is doing better, but there has to be some personal responsibility in play too.
     
    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    As for phishing and social network attacks - that can be a problem if you don't pay attention to what you're doing. The remedy is to pay attention. That's true about many activities in life. <span style="font-weight: bold">Lots of things will simply kill you</span> if you do them without paying attention.
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    Lindy.....There are times when you say that certain something, at certain times, in that "special way" of yours, that makes me feel real warm and fuzzy about life.....Gee thanks!

    Edit: After which; you will have a beer with lunch and take a nap.

    -Pat
     
    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    Lindy I agree that if you pay attention you should not have an issue. Unfortunatly, most do not and it has led to a lot of issues that could have been avoided. I am not saying that Facebook has no use and i am sorry if it came out that way.

    Just recently (yesterday) RSA (owned by EMC) who makes Secure ID tokens was a victim of an Advanced Persistant Threat attack where critical information was stolen. The primary method of this attack was the use of Social Engineering- where a group of people use a wide spectrum of tools to target individuals or groups to harvest data that will allow them to steal information. This type of an attack was not for financial gain and was not a run of the mill virus. It was a coordinated attack. Please keep in mind that RSA is not a small company and there security measures are top notch. These ID tokens use 6 digit numbers that rotate every 60 seconds and still require a 4-8 digit PIN number. What I am saying is that being part of "FaceBook" type social media makes your profile much higher to be targeted. With Iran activly recruiting "Cyber Warriors" and China spoonsoring more and more Identity theft, we need to do more to lower our profile not increase it.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    Apophas: I have some knowledge of Internet security - before I was smart enough to retire, I managed the global network of a Fortune 10 company, which included not only a dual-homed Internet connection but firewalled connections to more than 45 other companies.

    Nothing in life is without risk. A woman laying in her bed in Alabama was struck in the thigh by a meteorite which pierced her roof.

    Many people have very poor perceptions of risk. Right this minute, on the west coast of the United States, people are driving to pharmacies to buy potassium iodide tablets - and they aren't wearing their seat belts. <shrug>

    I agree that many people do not pay attention, and I further agree that visibility on the Internet increases risk. I have a presence on the web which increases my risk: http://www.arcanamavens.com.

    George Savile, Lord Halifax, said many years ago, "He that leaveth nothing to chance will do few things ill, but he will do very few things."

    Pat: I had just returned from my morning ride along Aransas bay, and had already had my beer when posting that note. Lunch and the nap came immediately after. Happy Hour starts in about 10 minutes...
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    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    Lindy....what kind of scotch do you drink? I owe you at least one bottle while I'm there for the Cup, your posts always entertain and impress.
     
    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    Jason: Thanks for your kindness, and your kind words. However, I wouldn't want such a gift to be misinterpreted as an attempt to bribe the match staff.
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    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    This is why I use 123456 as my password, now one ever asks that!
     
    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    Lindy-- Yup agreed nothing ventured nothing gained ... I just like to measure my gains and lower my risk ... now on to more importaint topics -- What Scotch do you like? ... Blend, Single Malt ...? You can tell a lot about a man by the scotch that he drinks...
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    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jason: Thanks for your kindness, and your kind words. However, I wouldn't want such a gift to be misinterpreted as an attempt to bribe the match staff.
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    Is that an option? I'm not above bribery!!
     
    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    You can avoid FB all you want but being on the HIDE will SHOW info about you. This site might not be as popular as FB but more of it's users feel just fine revealing every little detail about their life here. If your going to avoid "social network" then you also need to avoid FORUMS. They were the first social network we had.
     
    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goldie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    Why I avoid social networks like Facebook
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    Didn't I just get a friend request from you?
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    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    Still, it is a step up from MySpace.

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    Best description of Myspace - "It's like someone puked in HTML."
     
    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goldie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    Why I avoid social networks like Facebook
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    Didn't I just get a friend request from you?
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    yep, but all the information, which is only my birthdate, is phoney.
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    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    I have what I consider to be an excellent solution although a lot of people don't care for it. Bank accounts are set up with NO internet access allowed. Nobody can get to that information unless they are at one of the banks terminales. Puts all the responsiblity if someone gets into my account, via internet, on the banks shoulders.
     
    Re: Why I avoid social networks like Facebook

    Facebook is an identity thief's playground. It's amazing to me how many people will post details to things they think is insignificant, never thinking that such information could be used to social engineer more info from someone else.
     
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    123456! Wow! That's the same combination an idiot would use on his luggage!
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