WTB: Sartorius Scale

[GungHo]

Hey just got a broken sartorius in the mail. I think it was damaged during shipment. So im here again looking for one. Willing to do 650$~ or so for a sartorius. However, let me know what you would like.

autotrickler setup welcome .

 

[GungHo]

Bump. Anyone have scale? Save me some money $$

 

[Backcountryguy]

Not sure if you know but you can buy the A&D FX120i brand new for around $475

 

[ed308]

Michael, I was wondering what happen with your scale. Won't they send you a new one since your's was delivered damaged? Or the damage should be covered by the shipper I would think. The Sartorius is a great scale. I'm not sure I shoot well enough for it.

 

[GungHo]

Not sure if you know but you can buy the A&D FX120i brand new for around $475

ohhh didn't know the price. I saw 725. I might end up buying new then. However, I'd like the increased precision with the sartorius

Michael, I was wondering what happen with your scale. Won't they send you a new one since your's was delivered damaged? Or the damage should be covered by the shipper I would think. The Sartorius is a great scale. I'm not sure I shoot well enough for it.

You say "they" but it was just an ordinary member on here. He didn't want to do any of those things you mentioned so I had to return it(forcibly return it) with Paypal goods and services dispute.

 

[Backcountryguy]

A&D FX-120i - 122g x 0.001g

A&D FX-120i is the ideal scale for your reloading bench. Superior accuracy and speed, at an affordable price for this laboratory grade scale. Always in stock. $580.00 USD - Free Shipping to The Lower 48

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Make sure you enter discount code CAMBRIDGE. It will drop the price to $470.

The FX120i reads a single kernel of Varget and H4350...honestly not sure how much more precise one needs to be than that, but that’s just my opinion

 

[GungHo]

A&D FX-120i - 122g x 0.001g

A&D FX-120i is the ideal scale for your reloading bench. Superior accuracy and speed, at an affordable price for this laboratory grade scale. Always in stock. $580.00 USD - Free Shipping to The Lower 48

ceproducts.shop

Make sure you enter discount code CAMBRIDGE. It will drop the price to $470.

The FX120i reads a single kernel of Varget and H4350...honestly not sure how much more precise one needs to be than that, but that’s just my opinion

i read on here it sometimes cant read a single kernel of h4350 since it can be .015

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[Backcountryguy]

I measure using grams instead of grains.

 

[Prophet78]

Varget is even finer.

 

[ed308]

You could also consider the A&D Fx200i scale. Basically the same scale. The A&D scale with Auto Trickler and Auto Throw is a great system. Fast and accurate. But the Auto Trickler and V3 Throws are taking around 2 months to ship due to demand. But worth the wait.

 

[GungHo]

Bump

 

[GungHo]

Bump!

 

[NamibHunter]

I use the FX120i with the autotrickler and this combo is superb. In both milligram and grain mode the scale has more resolution than a single kernel of extruded powder. Yes milligram mode is slightly better than grain mode, about 30% more resolution.

Unless you intend to cut kernels in half (a totally OCD idea - avoid!), you will not benefit enough from the more expensive Sartorius to justify the price differential.

Just my opinion.

 

[NamibHunter]

Btw: In the latest Brian Litz book, he compared the SD of muzzle velocity for different scales: A milligram scale (0.02 grain resolution, just a bit less than one kernel of H4350) was only slightly better than a scale like the RCBS 1500 that has 0.1 grain resolution (about 3-4 kernels of powder). Clearly there are seriously diminishing returns beyond 0.05 grain resolution.

Other factors like concentricity and neck tension variance plays a bigger role than getting the weight correct to a single kernel.

Edit: And case capacity.

 

[codym]

My FX 120i reads one kernel of 4350

 

[GungHo]

Bump

 

[Prophet78]

There is a sartorius on Accurate Shooter. Probably out of your budget.

 

[GungHo]

There is a sartorius on Accurate Shooter. Probably out of your budget.

The man is insane. You can almost buy new for that price. Bump

 

[Prophet78]

Xxtg

The man is insane. You can almost buy new for that price. Bump

I think you are a wee bit unrealistic. If you can find a Entris for $650, I’ll take two.

 

[NamibHunter]

Have not tracked Sartorius scale specs or prices the past few years. What is the preferred Sartorius scale for weighing powder?

Found this one, around $1,000.

Sartorius Entris 64-1S Balance 60 x 0.0001 g

Start Weighing Right Practum ® - the laboratory balance that enables you to start weighing right! Unmatched reliability attained by the Sartorius weighing technology featuring quality made in Germany. Innovative housing design and rugged weigh cell for easy weighing, whatever you weigh...

www.scalesgalore.com

So not cheap.

 

[Prophet78]

64-1S. I think I got mine 3 months ago for $950 with the v2 auto trickler.

 

[GungHo]

Xxtg


I think you are a wee bit unrealistic. If you can find a Entris for $650, I’ll take two.

I bought a supposedly working one on here for 675 and got an offer for 620 on ebay. The one on ebay had a bid war and sold for 650. Sadly i didn't accept the offer. Then the one i bought on here broke during transit or perhaps it was already broken before it was sent.

Here it is: the Sartorius you wanted for 650$ that i could've gotten for 620$

Sartorius Entris 64-1S Analytical Balance | eBay

Sartorius Entris 64-1S Analytical Balance 60g x 0.1mg.

www.ebay.com

Bump

 

[Prophet78]

I bought a supposedly working one on here for 675 and got an offer for 620 on ebay. The one on ebay had a bid war and sold for 650. Sadly i didn't accept the offer. Then the one i bought on here broke during transit or perhaps it was already broken before it was sent.

Here it is: the Sartorius you wanted for 650$ that i could've gotten for 620$

Sartorius Entris 64-1S Analytical Balance | eBay

Sartorius Entris 64-1S Analytical Balance 60g x 0.1mg.

www.ebay.com

Bump

With all due respect. You are an idiot for not buying it.

 

[NamibHunter]

Oh boy. Sorry to hear about your troubles.

 

[NamibHunter]

The top end Sartorius scales are excellent, but pricey. Super accurate - but probably way more than you need for reloading.

I use an A&D FX120i, and very happy with the 0.02 gn resolution. In milligram mode you gain a little more resolution, but you don’t need it for powder charge measurement (one kernel of powder reads 2-3 milligram).

The FX120i settles to the right nr very quickly because it uses force restoration technology. It is not just about scale resolution.

After much experimentation, i have come to the conclusion that a scale with 0.05 grain resolution is good enough (2 kernels of powder, about equivalent to 3-5 fps) - if you shoot at steel targets. An F- class or long range BR competitor might need a bit more.

There are other sources of variation that dominate your ES, like variable neck tension, slightly difference amounts of primer compound, a gradual rise in barrel temperature and progressive barrel fouling, faint carbon rings, etc.