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Night Vision WTS - Skeet and UTC

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Up for sale, my personal Skeet and UTC. These are both the 320 units, but due to enhanced elements in the optical train, offer images so close to the 640s, that when I first got them (and even still) I have to double check whether I brought out the 640 or the 320 versions!

The UTC is clear up to 10x, but starts to get a little fuzzy over 10x. Whereas the UTC-x/xii starts to get similarly fuzzy at around 16x on the day scope. That's the primary difference, this ones good up to 10x (and you can squeeze it higher if needed). But for me, 10x on the day scope is a LOT of magnification at night.
Also, the UTC is prism collimated and can be moved from rifle to rifle with no POI shift. In POI shift testing, this unit actually beat its bigger brothers UTC-x and UTC-xii recording exactly no POI shift after a remount (evidence to follow below).

Likewise, the skeet is amazing on 1x. On 2x digital it's gained some detectable fuzz but usable ... The skeet does have a ir aiming laser and its pretty powerful, it looks like its FP to me, certainly has tiny beam divergence and reaches way far out there.

Both of these units have HPR (Heading, Pitch and Roll) display options, which I leave on, but they can be turned off.

I'm selling to raise cash for a personal / family funds requirement. I will definitely try to replace one day, but for now, have to sell some of the crown jewels to raise cash.

So, no trades please.

Payment terms, given the amounts, I don't think paypal or other similar means will work, so I'd ask for check or money order. Any check or money order will do as long as it clears.

Skeet, SPF

UTC, asking $10,500.

Shipping to CONUS is included in sales price.

Skeet
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UTC (from bottom to top, UTC, UTC-x, UTC-xii)
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More pics shortly
 
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Skeet (note the HPR)

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And for comparison purposes, same night, Patrol 640
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And Nox-18 640, again, same night
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Somehow, to my eye, the skeet actually looks a little more "sensitive" though, all I can guess is image processing difference. All the images were taken same night within about a 15 min window of time, so it isn't "thermal conditions".

Anyway, they are all close, which is surprising, since one of them is a 320 and the other two are 640s.

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UTC POI comparison.


Here's two 3 rd groups from the UTC-xii with a remount in between. Sorry for the out of focus.

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Same test, two 3 rd groups from the UTC-x with a remount in between.

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And last but not least, same test with the UTC, two 3 rd groups with a remount in between.

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In hind sight, I realized thermal bleed most likely accounts for the apparent shift. But the UTC did not disappoint regardless. The aiming point in all cases was the center of the handwarmer (apparent center anyway, allowing for thermal bleed) at 100yds, prone.

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UTC field test
These images were from the very first field test of the UTC when I first got it last year. Those yotes are ~350yds

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(the fuzzy in this shot is not the thermal, its me wiggling the camera trying to hurry and catch the "action" :D
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That little white rectangle showing above a center line from right between the yotes is a 1 by 1 foot solar panel powering an electric fence, protecting some bales in this pasture from the cattle.

For this shot, I figured out how to turn on the azimuth (H) display and optimized the image a little more. The bales (at about 450yds) are a little clearer now.
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More magnification on the solar panel and a bale
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Comparing to the UTC-x 640 same night, same scene (for the 640 both pitch and roll are activated, whereas just Heading for the 320)
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The 320 unit, cattle from 250 to 400

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And cow same night, same scene, with the 640. Cow at about 300yds
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PM for questions. Thanks for looking !!!
 
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If the utc is prism collimated, then how does the skeet work? Especially poa/poi shifts when mounted/remounted in conjunction with something like a 1-6 lpvo?

also… are either affected by a scope thats in a mount with built in cant?

sorry for the newby questions
 
The skeet is really a head mounted spotter. That's its sweet spot.
It can secondarily be used as a TWS and has adjustments to move the reticle so you can zero.
Tertiary function is as a clipon and I've tried this a few times, but the results didn't seem to be worth the trouble. I had to make adjustments on the ACOG to match POI/POA and it wasn't repeatable. I'd say about 4 MOA POI shift from remount to remount. I wanted to use it on .22LR for barnyard patrol (vs coons/ opossum, etc. but wind up shooting a lot of rats and mice). I hit two baby mice with it at 25 yds ... those mice were tiny ! They look huge in the pics :D

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But again, not repeatable. Adjustments must be checked after each remount if desiring sub-moa accuracy.

So, if I primarily wanted a clipon, I'd get something else, like maybe a breach. The breach has adjustments to enable it to be collimated to a given rifle/scope combination. Used with a mum-mount on a .22LR it works, though there is some wobble on the mum mount. I've also shot it with a 556, but I can't guarantee the breach could stand up to sustained recoil from a 556. Its fine on a 22.

After that, the price goes up. But as always, it depends on what you're trying to do.

The skeet I'm selling it great as a head mounted (or hand held) spotter, its tiny and light and has a powerful laser pointer.

And it can secondarily be a TWS and has adjustments for that. But its not a great clipon!

Keep asking away and I'll try to answer.

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I've used the UTC on a 300WM with a 20 MOA base and a 0 MOA saddle mount and had no issues. But I always try to avoid such situations just to remove variables.
 
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(see post #1 for all details)


Thanks for looking !!
 
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Weekend almost over :(

Thx for looking !!
 
Shipping to CONUS is included in sales price.

See post #1 in this thread for further details.

Thanks for looking !
 
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Thanks for looking !!
 
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PRICE DROP $10,750 for UTC

( skeet is SPF )

Price includes shipping to CONUS
 
PRICE DROP $10,500 for UTC

( skeet is SPF )

Price includes shipping to CONUS
 
UTC is SFP. Thanks for all the participation in these !!