has anyone used this suppressor with the yhm muzzle break? How did it shoot? How was the sound, and recoil?
Suppressors YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
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Re: YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
I can let you know in a month or two, in the meantime KYS338 will probably chime in here at some point, sounds like hes been very happy with his. Also saw a guy over on the new SilencerForum thats very impressed/happy with his.
The build is definitely stout. The can itself only weighs 1oz more than my 7.62 phantom, but when you add on the muzzle brake it goes upwards of 40oz, at least all that weight is right at the muzzle though.
I can let you know in a month or two, in the meantime KYS338 will probably chime in here at some point, sounds like hes been very happy with his. Also saw a guy over on the new SilencerForum thats very impressed/happy with his.
The build is definitely stout. The can itself only weighs 1oz more than my 7.62 phantom, but when you add on the muzzle brake it goes upwards of 40oz, at least all that weight is right at the muzzle though.
Re: YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
i just got one in... it looks good... built like a tank... but haven't shot one yet.
i just got one in... it looks good... built like a tank... but haven't shot one yet.
Re: YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jonaddis84</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can let you know in a month or two, in the meantime KYS338 will probably chime in here at some point, sounds like hes been very happy with his. Also saw a guy over on the new SilencerForum thats very impressed/happy with his.
The build is definitely stout. The can itself only weighs 1oz more than my 7.62 phantom, but when you add on the muzzle brake it goes upwards of 40oz, at least all that weight is right at the muzzle though. </div></div>
They are excellent cans for the money especially if you want to go the 338 route. You wont find one on the market that is QD and at this price point, they are over built and last forever. I have thousands of rounds on my YHM Phantoms and still going strong.
I am going to be putting my 338 Phantom onto my 338 Edge build soon though, just waiting on GAP to finish it up.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jonaddis84</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can let you know in a month or two, in the meantime KYS338 will probably chime in here at some point, sounds like hes been very happy with his. Also saw a guy over on the new SilencerForum thats very impressed/happy with his.
The build is definitely stout. The can itself only weighs 1oz more than my 7.62 phantom, but when you add on the muzzle brake it goes upwards of 40oz, at least all that weight is right at the muzzle though. </div></div>
They are excellent cans for the money especially if you want to go the 338 route. You wont find one on the market that is QD and at this price point, they are over built and last forever. I have thousands of rounds on my YHM Phantoms and still going strong.
I am going to be putting my 338 Phantom onto my 338 Edge build soon though, just waiting on GAP to finish it up.
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The AAC Titan is a substantially better performer, and AAC dropped the MSRP on the stainless Titan to $1195 this year, with street prices bound to be lower than that. I would rather drop a few hundred extra on that than pay, say, $800 for the YHM.
The AAC Titan is a substantially better performer, and AAC dropped the MSRP on the stainless Titan to $1195 this year, with street prices bound to be lower than that. I would rather drop a few hundred extra on that than pay, say, $800 for the YHM.
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While the Titan can be had for less than $1195, the YHM can also be had for less than $795 msrp, and its quick detach, roughly the same weight (although the YHM can only weighs 31oz and the rest is in the qd brake centered over the muzzle).
Have you heard them side by side to quantify your opinion?
While the Titan can be had for less than $1195, the YHM can also be had for less than $795 msrp, and its quick detach, roughly the same weight (although the YHM can only weighs 31oz and the rest is in the qd brake centered over the muzzle).
Have you heard them side by side to quantify your opinion?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The AAC Titan is a substantially better performer, and AAC dropped the MSRP on the stainless Titan to $1195 this year, with street prices bound to be lower than that. I would rather drop a few hundred extra on that than pay, say, $800 for the YHM. </div></div>
1. Which AAC Titan is the better "performer"?
2. What do you base your opinion on? Have you heard them each?
Because I will disagree. I own a AAC Titan and it in no way "out performs" the YHM. Sound wise they are different but not louder then one another. Everyone perceives sound in a different manner. I've had more issues out of AAC Gear then YHM, I give the leg up to YHM so far in the durability test. My first AAC Titan was threaded crooked and had to wait almost a year to get it replaces and go thru the NFA process again.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The AAC Titan is a substantially better performer, and AAC dropped the MSRP on the stainless Titan to $1195 this year, with street prices bound to be lower than that. I would rather drop a few hundred extra on that than pay, say, $800 for the YHM. </div></div>
1. Which AAC Titan is the better "performer"?
2. What do you base your opinion on? Have you heard them each?
Because I will disagree. I own a AAC Titan and it in no way "out performs" the YHM. Sound wise they are different but not louder then one another. Everyone perceives sound in a different manner. I've had more issues out of AAC Gear then YHM, I give the leg up to YHM so far in the durability test. My first AAC Titan was threaded crooked and had to wait almost a year to get it replaces and go thru the NFA process again.
Re: YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aussiegolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">has anyone used this suppressor with the yhm muzzle break? How did it shoot? How was the sound, and recoil?</div></div> My only gripe with YHM is their choice to stay in such an anti gun state, so I don't buy their products since that funds their state politicians. I have an SRT suppressor (made in the free state of Az) on my .338 Lapua and it makes a huge difference in recoil. It kicks like a shotgun, not bad at all. The sound is also amazingly quiet, especially considering there are 94 grains of powder in the case. Be aware though, the can gets very, very hot, and it does so very quickly. I keep a spare pair of leather work gloves in my gear bag to be able to remove the can when at the range.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aussiegolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">has anyone used this suppressor with the yhm muzzle break? How did it shoot? How was the sound, and recoil?</div></div> My only gripe with YHM is their choice to stay in such an anti gun state, so I don't buy their products since that funds their state politicians. I have an SRT suppressor (made in the free state of Az) on my .338 Lapua and it makes a huge difference in recoil. It kicks like a shotgun, not bad at all. The sound is also amazingly quiet, especially considering there are 94 grains of powder in the case. Be aware though, the can gets very, very hot, and it does so very quickly. I keep a spare pair of leather work gloves in my gear bag to be able to remove the can when at the range.
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I just put my. 338 Phantom and brake on my savage 110BA and it actually recoils the same or less than my 700 .308 you will love it.
I just put my. 338 Phantom and brake on my savage 110BA and it actually recoils the same or less than my 700 .308 you will love it.
Re: YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jonaddis84</div><div class="ubbcode-body">While the Titan can be had for less than $1195, the YHM can also be had for less than $795 msrp, and its quick detach, roughly the same weight (although the YHM can only weighs 31oz and the rest is in the qd brake centered over the muzzle)</div></div>
X2, I ordered mine for $670
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jonaddis84</div><div class="ubbcode-body">While the Titan can be had for less than $1195, the YHM can also be had for less than $795 msrp, and its quick detach, roughly the same weight (although the YHM can only weighs 31oz and the rest is in the qd brake centered over the muzzle)</div></div>
X2, I ordered mine for $670
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1. Which AAC Titan is the better "performer"?
2. What do you base your opinion on? Have you heard them each? </div></div>
1. The thread-on versions are quieter than the QD, as they don't lose volume to the muzzle brake mount. Not sure which one you are using.
2. Yes.
Can't speak to your problem with Titan threading, but I do know that an N of 1 does not prove anything either way.
I own cans from both YHM and AAC, I have no real dog in this fight. My general experience is that YHM cans are good performers at a very good price, but also that if you are willing to pay a premium, you can get more performance from other brands.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1. Which AAC Titan is the better "performer"?
2. What do you base your opinion on? Have you heard them each? </div></div>
1. The thread-on versions are quieter than the QD, as they don't lose volume to the muzzle brake mount. Not sure which one you are using.
2. Yes.
Can't speak to your problem with Titan threading, but I do know that an N of 1 does not prove anything either way.
I own cans from both YHM and AAC, I have no real dog in this fight. My general experience is that YHM cans are good performers at a very good price, but also that if you are willing to pay a premium, you can get more performance from other brands.
Re: YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1. Which AAC Titan is the better "performer"?
2. What do you base your opinion on? Have you heard them each? </div></div>
1. The thread-on versions are quieter than the QD, as they don't lose volume to the muzzle brake mount. Not sure which one you are using.
2. Yes.
Can't speak to your problem with Titan threading, but I do know that an N of 1 does not prove anything either way.
I own cans from both YHM and AAC, I have no real dog in this fight. My general experience is that YHM cans are good performers at a very good price, but also that if you are willing to pay a premium, you can get more performance from other brands. </div></div>
Well I have both cans. I have the steel thread on version of the Titan and it is not more quiet then the 338 Phantom from YHM. Im just trying to decipher what you classify as "better performance" which you have not answered yet.
The sound difference between the Ti and Steel versions is the fact that Ti is thinner walled and resonates more sound on the tube. The tubes really need to be thicker but they were trying to hit a certain weight and reduction node. They did it but I would not have paid $3500.00 for a can that sounds like that. I still have trouble justifying a can that sounds like the Ti Titan for $1850.00
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1. Which AAC Titan is the better "performer"?
2. What do you base your opinion on? Have you heard them each? </div></div>
1. The thread-on versions are quieter than the QD, as they don't lose volume to the muzzle brake mount. Not sure which one you are using.
2. Yes.
Can't speak to your problem with Titan threading, but I do know that an N of 1 does not prove anything either way.
I own cans from both YHM and AAC, I have no real dog in this fight. My general experience is that YHM cans are good performers at a very good price, but also that if you are willing to pay a premium, you can get more performance from other brands. </div></div>
Well I have both cans. I have the steel thread on version of the Titan and it is not more quiet then the 338 Phantom from YHM. Im just trying to decipher what you classify as "better performance" which you have not answered yet.
The sound difference between the Ti and Steel versions is the fact that Ti is thinner walled and resonates more sound on the tube. The tubes really need to be thicker but they were trying to hit a certain weight and reduction node. They did it but I would not have paid $3500.00 for a can that sounds like that. I still have trouble justifying a can that sounds like the Ti Titan for $1850.00
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The Titan sounds quieter to me. It does not to you. Fair enough. I have seen test data on the Titan which is very good, I have not seen test data for the Phantom.
Your statement about the differences between the Ti and steel versions makes little sense. Yes, Ti resonates differently, but until recently there were NO thread-on Ti Titans, only QD, and the difference in sound is FAR more likely to be the result of substantial volume taken up by the TiTan QD's mount inside the can.
The Titan sounds quieter to me. It does not to you. Fair enough. I have seen test data on the Titan which is very good, I have not seen test data for the Phantom.
Your statement about the differences between the Ti and steel versions makes little sense. Yes, Ti resonates differently, but until recently there were NO thread-on Ti Titans, only QD, and the difference in sound is FAR more likely to be the result of substantial volume taken up by the TiTan QD's mount inside the can.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Titan sounds quieter to me. It does not to you. Fair enough. I have seen test data on the Titan which is very good, I have not seen test data for the Phantom.
Your statement about the differences between the Ti and steel versions makes little sense. Yes, Ti resonates differently, but until recently there were NO thread-on Ti Titans, only QD, and the difference in sound is FAR more likely to be the result of substantial volume taken up by the TiTan QD's mount inside the can. </div></div>
Your saying you cant understand the fact that the tube on the steel version is thicker then the Ti version? Until I can hear the thread on Ti version I still think the QD model is loud for the price point. The thread on can may be more quiet..... but I cant say because I have not had one in front of me.
My time with large cal cans is that the Stainless versions are just more of a muffled thud then with the Ti cans. They have a louder ping character, being a character of the metal used. I think that the argument about QD cans being louder then thread on cans is valid, to an extent. I have 762 cans that are QD and sound just the same to me as most of the thread on cans. Yes the lost volume does hurt it some but they usually make up for it in abundance of materials. Its all pick and choose your materials in accordance to your attachment method.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Titan sounds quieter to me. It does not to you. Fair enough. I have seen test data on the Titan which is very good, I have not seen test data for the Phantom.
Your statement about the differences between the Ti and steel versions makes little sense. Yes, Ti resonates differently, but until recently there were NO thread-on Ti Titans, only QD, and the difference in sound is FAR more likely to be the result of substantial volume taken up by the TiTan QD's mount inside the can. </div></div>
Your saying you cant understand the fact that the tube on the steel version is thicker then the Ti version? Until I can hear the thread on Ti version I still think the QD model is loud for the price point. The thread on can may be more quiet..... but I cant say because I have not had one in front of me.
My time with large cal cans is that the Stainless versions are just more of a muffled thud then with the Ti cans. They have a louder ping character, being a character of the metal used. I think that the argument about QD cans being louder then thread on cans is valid, to an extent. I have 762 cans that are QD and sound just the same to me as most of the thread on cans. Yes the lost volume does hurt it some but they usually make up for it in abundance of materials. Its all pick and choose your materials in accordance to your attachment method.
Re: YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Titan sounds quieter to me. It does not to you. Fair enough. I have seen test data on the Titan which is very good, I have not seen test data for the Phantom.
Your statement about the differences between the Ti and steel versions makes little sense. Yes, Ti resonates differently, but until recently there were NO thread-on Ti Titans, only QD, and the difference in sound is FAR more likely to be the result of substantial volume taken up by the TiTan QD's mount inside the can. </div></div>
Well now I am confused..... you said above that you have not seen test data for the YHM but you can comment on how they sound side by side. So, how are you hearing them side by side but cannot comment on the test data? As you stated, each person perceives sound differently, would you be shocked if the YHM tested greater DB reduction then the Titan QD? We are comparing QD to QD model, yes?
If you want to comment on thread on models I think you would be hard pressed to beat the TBAC 338P-1. Which is bar far the quietest 338LM suppressor I have shot/owned.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1. Which AAC Titan is the better "performer"?
<span style="color: #FF0000">2. What do you base your opinion on? Have you heard them each?</span> </div></div>
1. The thread-on versions are quieter than the QD, as they don't lose volume to the muzzle brake mount. Not sure which one you are using.
<span style="color: #FF0000">2. Yes.</span>
Can't speak to your problem with Titan threading, but I do know that an N of 1 does not prove anything either way.
I own cans from both YHM and AAC, I have no real dog in this fight. My general experience is that YHM cans are good performers at a very good price, <span style="color: #3366FF">but also that if you are willing to pay a premium, you can get more performance from other brands.</span> </div></div>
I know where you are coming from, but I don't buy a can that is rated for high performance because based on its high price. I have no ill will for AAC products but a Ti can that is QD for $3500.00 (now $1850 with price reductions) in NO WAY is out performing a $750.00 QD can from YHM. That is why I disagreed with you. TBAC is also releasing their QD version of their 338P-1 and I expect it to do great things and test very well, like all their other cans they have put out.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Titan sounds quieter to me. It does not to you. Fair enough. I have seen test data on the Titan which is very good, I have not seen test data for the Phantom.
Your statement about the differences between the Ti and steel versions makes little sense. Yes, Ti resonates differently, but until recently there were NO thread-on Ti Titans, only QD, and the difference in sound is FAR more likely to be the result of substantial volume taken up by the TiTan QD's mount inside the can. </div></div>
Well now I am confused..... you said above that you have not seen test data for the YHM but you can comment on how they sound side by side. So, how are you hearing them side by side but cannot comment on the test data? As you stated, each person perceives sound differently, would you be shocked if the YHM tested greater DB reduction then the Titan QD? We are comparing QD to QD model, yes?
If you want to comment on thread on models I think you would be hard pressed to beat the TBAC 338P-1. Which is bar far the quietest 338LM suppressor I have shot/owned.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1. Which AAC Titan is the better "performer"?
<span style="color: #FF0000">2. What do you base your opinion on? Have you heard them each?</span> </div></div>
1. The thread-on versions are quieter than the QD, as they don't lose volume to the muzzle brake mount. Not sure which one you are using.
<span style="color: #FF0000">2. Yes.</span>
Can't speak to your problem with Titan threading, but I do know that an N of 1 does not prove anything either way.
I own cans from both YHM and AAC, I have no real dog in this fight. My general experience is that YHM cans are good performers at a very good price, <span style="color: #3366FF">but also that if you are willing to pay a premium, you can get more performance from other brands.</span> </div></div>
I know where you are coming from, but I don't buy a can that is rated for high performance because based on its high price. I have no ill will for AAC products but a Ti can that is QD for $3500.00 (now $1850 with price reductions) in NO WAY is out performing a $750.00 QD can from YHM. That is why I disagreed with you. TBAC is also releasing their QD version of their 338P-1 and I expect it to do great things and test very well, like all their other cans they have put out.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Your saying you cant understand the fact that the tube on the steel version is thicker then the Ti version? </div></div>
No, I'm saying that attributing the ~5dB difference in performance to the tube material when the blast chamber on the Ti version is completely filled up with a muzzle brake is silly. Compare the AAC 762SD to the Cyclone - they are within 1/4" or so in length, and use the same baffle design, but the Cyclone meters substantially quieter.
As I said above, yes, it's well known that Ti tubes often have a higher "tone" than SS tubes. But that is usually a question of frequency, not one of dB performance.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Your saying you cant understand the fact that the tube on the steel version is thicker then the Ti version? </div></div>
No, I'm saying that attributing the ~5dB difference in performance to the tube material when the blast chamber on the Ti version is completely filled up with a muzzle brake is silly. Compare the AAC 762SD to the Cyclone - they are within 1/4" or so in length, and use the same baffle design, but the Cyclone meters substantially quieter.
As I said above, yes, it's well known that Ti tubes often have a higher "tone" than SS tubes. But that is usually a question of frequency, not one of dB performance.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, how are you hearing them side by side but cannot comment on the test data?</div></div>
I'm not sure why this is hard for you to comprehend. I have heard them side by side. I have not seen them tested side by side on a B&K 2209 or similar Mil Std 1474-D SPL testing setup to provide measurements of A-weighted pressure. I doubt you have either.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, how are you hearing them side by side but cannot comment on the test data?</div></div>
I'm not sure why this is hard for you to comprehend. I have heard them side by side. I have not seen them tested side by side on a B&K 2209 or similar Mil Std 1474-D SPL testing setup to provide measurements of A-weighted pressure. I doubt you have either.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no ill will for AAC products but a Ti can that is QD for $3500.00 (now $1850 with price reductions) in NO WAY is out performing a $750.00 QD can from YHM</div></div>
This is probably my failure to communicate. I have been talking about the thread-on version, not the QD. I thought I made that clear in my first post where I mentioned the MSRP ($1195) which refers to the SS thread-on version, but perhaps I should have been more clear.
For a .338LM precision rifle, I prefer thread-on silencers to QD silencers. If you compare the performance of the Phantom to the SS thread-on Titan, yes, I would be shocked if the Phantom metered better. And I would rather spend $1000 on the SS Titan than $700 on the Phantom.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no ill will for AAC products but a Ti can that is QD for $3500.00 (now $1850 with price reductions) in NO WAY is out performing a $750.00 QD can from YHM</div></div>
This is probably my failure to communicate. I have been talking about the thread-on version, not the QD. I thought I made that clear in my first post where I mentioned the MSRP ($1195) which refers to the SS thread-on version, but perhaps I should have been more clear.
For a .338LM precision rifle, I prefer thread-on silencers to QD silencers. If you compare the performance of the Phantom to the SS thread-on Titan, yes, I would be shocked if the Phantom metered better. And I would rather spend $1000 on the SS Titan than $700 on the Phantom.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, how are you hearing them side by side but cannot comment on the test data?</div></div>
I'm not sure why this is hard for you to comprehend. I have heard them side by side. I have not seen them tested side by side on a B&K 2209 or similar Mil Std 1474-D SPL testing setup to provide measurements of A-weighted pressure. I doubt you have either. </div></div>
I am down for real world testing. I want to hear them shot side by side from the shooters stand point. A meter is not my ears nor yours. The military may rely on that meter to pick which one they want, but hey, I will go with what "performs" the best for me.
I comprehend just fine, I just find that your are looking at this from one angle. The QD mount is the focal point of your argument. When this thread started as a question regarding a QD vs. QD can.
You stated that for the money and performance the AAC Titan Ti was a better performer then the YHM Phantom. It is NOT when it comes to sound and reduction. Case closed in my book. Silencerresearch.com and silencerforum.com all offer testing and numbers with the equipment you specified, check the numbers out.
For your money.... the YHM 338 will sound better to your ears then the AAC Titan QD for half the price.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, how are you hearing them side by side but cannot comment on the test data?</div></div>
I'm not sure why this is hard for you to comprehend. I have heard them side by side. I have not seen them tested side by side on a B&K 2209 or similar Mil Std 1474-D SPL testing setup to provide measurements of A-weighted pressure. I doubt you have either. </div></div>
I am down for real world testing. I want to hear them shot side by side from the shooters stand point. A meter is not my ears nor yours. The military may rely on that meter to pick which one they want, but hey, I will go with what "performs" the best for me.
I comprehend just fine, I just find that your are looking at this from one angle. The QD mount is the focal point of your argument. When this thread started as a question regarding a QD vs. QD can.
You stated that for the money and performance the AAC Titan Ti was a better performer then the YHM Phantom. It is NOT when it comes to sound and reduction. Case closed in my book. Silencerresearch.com and silencerforum.com all offer testing and numbers with the equipment you specified, check the numbers out.
For your money.... the YHM 338 will sound better to your ears then the AAC Titan QD for half the price.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no ill will for AAC products but a Ti can that is QD for $3500.00 (now $1850 with price reductions) in NO WAY is out performing a $750.00 QD can from YHM</div></div>
This is probably my failure to communicate. I have been talking about the thread-on version, not the QD. I thought I made that clear in my first post where I mentioned the MSRP ($1195) which refers to the SS thread-on version, but perhaps I should have been more clear.
For a .338LM precision rifle, I prefer thread-on silencers to QD silencers. If you compare the performance of the Phantom to the SS thread-on Titan, yes, I would be shocked if the Phantom metered better. And I would rather spend $1000 on the SS Titan than $700 on the Phantom. </div></div>
Again, I agree with that. The Titan in SS that is thread on is probably going to meter different. I have one, works well. But if your on a budget the YHM is hard to beat.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no ill will for AAC products but a Ti can that is QD for $3500.00 (now $1850 with price reductions) in NO WAY is out performing a $750.00 QD can from YHM</div></div>
This is probably my failure to communicate. I have been talking about the thread-on version, not the QD. I thought I made that clear in my first post where I mentioned the MSRP ($1195) which refers to the SS thread-on version, but perhaps I should have been more clear.
For a .338LM precision rifle, I prefer thread-on silencers to QD silencers. If you compare the performance of the Phantom to the SS thread-on Titan, yes, I would be shocked if the Phantom metered better. And I would rather spend $1000 on the SS Titan than $700 on the Phantom. </div></div>
Again, I agree with that. The Titan in SS that is thread on is probably going to meter different. I have one, works well. But if your on a budget the YHM is hard to beat.
Re: YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You stated that for the money and performance the AAC Titan Ti was a better performer then the YHM Phantom.</div></div>
I did NOT state this. Go back and look at my first post. Nowhere does it reference the Ti version. It references, by name, the $1195 stainless version. And it looks like you are agreeing with me that the SS Titan is probably the better performer.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You stated that for the money and performance the AAC Titan Ti was a better performer then the YHM Phantom.</div></div>
I did NOT state this. Go back and look at my first post. Nowhere does it reference the Ti version. It references, by name, the $1195 stainless version. And it looks like you are agreeing with me that the SS Titan is probably the better performer.
Re: YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
I own the TITAN SS 2" thread on can. It rocks. I have heard in person the Phantom 338 and it is noticeably louder.
I own the TITAN SS 2" thread on can. It rocks. I have heard in person the Phantom 338 and it is noticeably louder.
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boltripper has seen and shot three different SHARK .33cal cans all TI......as always they are superior by design and function quite well....decently quite also......just sayin
boltripper has seen and shot three different SHARK .33cal cans all TI......as always they are superior by design and function quite well....decently quite also......just sayin
Re: YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
here's the YHM .338 phantom on my .308 700 with home rolled subsonics, We shot my 110BA with .338 match ammo and the YHM and nobody around needed ears. Very happy with the YHM went with the .338 so I could use it on both my .308's and my .338. I won't run anything AAC due to their warranty replace policy. <object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/gHSdNTfbGk0"></param> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/gHSdNTfbGk0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> </embed></object>
here's the YHM .338 phantom on my .308 700 with home rolled subsonics, We shot my 110BA with .338 match ammo and the YHM and nobody around needed ears. Very happy with the YHM went with the .338 so I could use it on both my .308's and my .338. I won't run anything AAC due to their warranty replace policy. <object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/gHSdNTfbGk0"></param> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/gHSdNTfbGk0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> </embed></object>
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I guess maybe its just because I cant afford any of the high end Ti cans....but I just cant see how they can be justified against the low price YHM.
For example, Jaws, msrp $1995, weighs what..38oz I believe (definitely was not expecting a Ti can to be that heavy when I picked one up the first time)? Ive heard it, its definitely quiet, but not magical.
YHM, msrp $795 (and Im pretty sure you can get YHMs for a higher percentage off msr than Shark), can weighs 31oz, brake weighs 9oz, and based on KYS it is super quiet right with the rest.
The YHM is also quick detach, and pretty sure they have very good repeatability as long as you tighten it the same each time.
Please dont try to argue they are worth the extra money because you can take them apart, please.
Im just not seeing the big deal, I guess sure the Ti is completely corrosion proof...but has anyone rusted out a SS can to the point it was junk before?
I guess maybe its just because I cant afford any of the high end Ti cans....but I just cant see how they can be justified against the low price YHM.
For example, Jaws, msrp $1995, weighs what..38oz I believe (definitely was not expecting a Ti can to be that heavy when I picked one up the first time)? Ive heard it, its definitely quiet, but not magical.
YHM, msrp $795 (and Im pretty sure you can get YHMs for a higher percentage off msr than Shark), can weighs 31oz, brake weighs 9oz, and based on KYS it is super quiet right with the rest.
The YHM is also quick detach, and pretty sure they have very good repeatability as long as you tighten it the same each time.
Please dont try to argue they are worth the extra money because you can take them apart, please.
Im just not seeing the big deal, I guess sure the Ti is completely corrosion proof...but has anyone rusted out a SS can to the point it was junk before?
Re: YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
Nice! Im hoping to do paperwork sometime soon and get mine in and start shooting.
Nice! Im hoping to do paperwork sometime soon and get mine in and start shooting.
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I shot a 20' 308 DTA with the 338 YHM can on it and it recoiled very nice and was very... quiet. We ended up running just shy of 150rds of full speed 175smks that days without plugs or muffs and my ears were fine. I know my buddy paid in the ball park of 680-700$ for his YHM .338 can.
I shot a 20' 308 DTA with the 338 YHM can on it and it recoiled very nice and was very... quiet. We ended up running just shy of 150rds of full speed 175smks that days without plugs or muffs and my ears were fine. I know my buddy paid in the ball park of 680-700$ for his YHM .338 can.
Re: YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
With our SH group buy going on right now, you can get a 338P-1 for about $1385 if you buy it through Sotexhunter (STS). 25 oz. All Ti. Fully welded core. Etc.
With our SH group buy going on right now, you can get a 338P-1 for about $1385 if you buy it through Sotexhunter (STS). 25 oz. All Ti. Fully welded core. Etc.
Re: YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With our SH group buy going on right now, you can get a 338P-1 for about $1385 if you buy it through Sotexhunter (STS). 25 oz. All Ti. Fully welded core. Etc. </div></div>
Where is the group buy info?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With our SH group buy going on right now, you can get a 338P-1 for about $1385 if you buy it through Sotexhunter (STS). 25 oz. All Ti. Fully welded core. Etc. </div></div>
Where is the group buy info?
Re: YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
Over in the SH Group Buy PX area, naturally:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=25&page=1
Over in the SH Group Buy PX area, naturally:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=25&page=1
Re: YHM .338 lapua mag suppressor
Wow, I got the chance to shoot the 338 through the phantom yesterday and I am very very impressed.
I really dont think it is any louder than my 308 with the 7.62 phantom on it! The only other 338 Ive heard is a shark on a TRG and it doesnt sound any different to me, granted I have not heard them side by side yet but still impressed for how dirt cheap I got this thing.
Wow, I got the chance to shoot the 338 through the phantom yesterday and I am very very impressed.
I really dont think it is any louder than my 308 with the 7.62 phantom on it! The only other 338 Ive heard is a shark on a TRG and it doesnt sound any different to me, granted I have not heard them side by side yet but still impressed for how dirt cheap I got this thing.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300zero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey ky338 let's test mine. I haven't shot through it yet. </div></div>
Ready when you are.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300zero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey ky338 let's test mine. I haven't shot through it yet. </div></div>
Ready when you are.
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I called them before ordering mine to ask, I didnt want to buy this and then a few months later find out they have a Ti 338. He said not to worry about it, there is nothing in the works right now, and if there ever was it would be over a year before they even started designing.
I used my 338 on my 308 this past week a few times and it is very impressive, notably quieter than my 7.62 phantom which already does a great job.
I called them before ordering mine to ask, I didnt want to buy this and then a few months later find out they have a Ti 338. He said not to worry about it, there is nothing in the works right now, and if there ever was it would be over a year before they even started designing.
I used my 338 on my 308 this past week a few times and it is very impressive, notably quieter than my 7.62 phantom which already does a great job.
