Which short action magnum?

[wind gypsy]

I only use N540 in my hunting rifles with very low rounds, burns really hot.

I've heard of that one being really hard on throats yet by the temp ratings varget and h4895 are just a step down and they certainly get a lot of use in high volume guns.

 

[Im2bent]

I was under the impression the powder rate charts had to do with speed off propagation or the " burn rate" not how hot temperature wise it gets. Seems to be a known thing the V5 powders are double base and are hotter temp wise and can decrease barrel life whereas the V1 series are not. Or am I miss informed?

 

[Clownbuster]

I was under the impression the powder rate charts had to do with speed off propagation or the " burn rate" not how hot temperature wise it gets. Seems to be a known thing the V5 powders are double base and are hotter temp wise and can decrease barrel life whereas the V1 series are not. Or am I miss informed?

Correct, the chart that everyone miseads runs <Faster-Slower> It has nothing to do with burn "temperature". Like all the VV and other double-base high pressure powders, they will burn throats at an accelerated rate.

 

[st1650]

Correct, the chart that everyone miseads runs <Faster-Slower> It has nothing to do with burn "temperature". Like all the VV and other double-base high pressure powders, they will burn throats at an accelerated rate.

Another thing is that the chart can be quite misguiding
For example it shows that N540 is a bit slower than XBR but in Quickload and GRT it's very close (at least in Dasher/Grendel sized case).
Powder burn rates aren't linear and theres a lot of variables ( single, double base, flake, ball, granule size, density, temperature, effect when compressed, etc etc)
I'd never select a powder/charge just by looking at the chart.

 

[Geno C.]

Don’t worry about those RL powders for a while

 

[roostercogburn98]

Don’t worry about those RL powders for a whileView attachment 8414272

The same company that is considering selling Lake City ammo to the Chechs? What a bunch of American hating, pice of shit communist they are turning out to be.

 

[Clownbuster]

The same company that is considering selling Lake City ammo to the Chechs? What a bunch of American hating, pice of shit communist they are turning out to be.

Yep, same ones

 

[Clownbuster]

Don’t worry about those RL powders for a whileView attachment 8414272

Yeah, cuz they're the only company that produce their powder with nitro lol, what a joke. If you didn't want to sell to the public, just say so, you don't have to make shit up. As if them hiking their prices weren't enough...
I bought enough of their shit when prices were ok, definitely not interested any more

 

[wind gypsy]

Copy/pasted from AS

Powder------ Burn Temp
VV N165--- 3500
H100v ------ 3545
VV N135------ 3590
VV N160------ 3620
H1000------ 3630
VV N133------ 3630
IMR 7977------ 3660
ACC 4064------ 3700
VV N170------- 3700
VV N555——— 3700
Retumbo------ 3710
IMR 4831------ 3720
VV N140------ 3720
H4350------- 3760
IMR 4350------- 3760
RL23 ------- 3770
VV N130------- 3770
VV N150------- 3780
RL16 ------- 3800
IMR 7828------- 3850
H4198------- 3860
H4831------- 3870
IMR 4064------- 3880
RL26------ 3905
IMR 8208------- 3920
IMR 4166 ------- 3920
IMR 4955------- 3950
Ramshot Tac------- 3950
VV N570------- 3950
RL19------- 3980
H335------- 3980
RL15------ 3990
RL17------ 3990
RL22------ 3990
IMR 4451------ 3990
RL10x ------- 4000
VV N560------ 4020
Varget------ 4050
VV N550------ 4050
H4895------ 4060
VV N530------ 4100
VV N540------ 4100

 

[mi223]

Would a 168-175 class of bullet fit in an aics mag keeping the bullet out of the neck shoulder junction of a 300wsm?

 

[moosemeat]

Should with SMK bullets. Let's say they fit in my m70 featherweight fine. The boat tail may have protruded below the neck/shoulder junction. I sold the rifle a couple years ago so I can't check.

 

[Forrest84]

I’ve been banging my head over this myself for 3 years and finally decided on a 300wsm mostly because I can by brass. I really wanted a 7wsm but I’m not going to jack with all the work and extra stuff I’ll need to convert brass from 300wsm to 7. Also I shoot 6 creed and have a bunch of 4350 so all I need was brass and bullets and dies for the 300. Your real problem like mentioned above is trying to make it a hunting/ target gun which I don’t see happening. Your gunna have to choose 1 or the other

 

[HerCoStarNTheBeaverPictur]

I try to make objective based decisions, and really define the purpose. You mention steel out to 1700 and hunting elk/deer in the PNW.

Two very different objectives.

6.5 PRC, 7 SAUM and 300 SAUM/WSM are good options, but the rifle configuration will determine how much you like the rifle.

An 8lb WSM will be great to pack in the woods and put the hurt on elk, but would be a pain to shoot on steel all day. Sure a few rounds, walking out to distance is doable, but it won't be pleasant all day.

If your goal is to shoot more steel, and occasionally hunt, then you could build something around 10lbs and shoot the 6.5 or 7mm. Mild mannered on the range but manageable in the field.

I’ve come to this conclusion as well. I built a 6.5PRC for hunting/range fun. It’s 8.5lbs and I have no issue shooting it for hours at the range but the issue is I’m burning up the barrel on my hunting rifle while having fun shooting steel.

Need 2 different rifles or at least multiple barrels to accomplish both goals imo.

 

[The D]

I’ve come to this conclusion as well. I built a 6.5PRC for hunting/range fun. It’s 8.5lbs and I have no issue shooting it for hours at the range but the issue is I’m burning up the barrel on my hunting rifle while having fun shooting steel.

Need 2 different rifles or at least multiple barrels to accomplish both goals imo.

Bolt guns are almost the same firearm legos as the AR platform now. All it takes are a few tools to do the barrel swap