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Interesting. Casting aspersions on mil “icons”

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    Video seems to take some hard shots at some big name SEALs.

    Is this old. Have I lead a sheltered life?

     
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    I've seen a few videos pop up lately shitting on a few warriors . Don't know if they're legit or liberal shit talk . Hard to decipher these days .
     
    The dude doing the podcast claims Army Green Beret lineage.

    Not a doubter, just looks real young. Not familiar with Army stuff but I assume you have to at least have two enlistments to get through basics, the special schools and in order to give some return on investment you hang around for awhile than it gets to the point that retirement is pretty close so you stay.

    The allegations are pretty disturbing if true and would be an issue.

    Makes you almost wonder if it’s an op to destroy more trust.

    Currently our institutions can’t be brought lower than they already are so now to continue the demoralization they are going to go at individuals.
     
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    As an aside Jocko could have got a cover that actually fit.
     
    Is this old. Have I lead a sheltered life?

    It's been slowly leaking out for a while as more people are coming forward and telling the behind the scenes stuff about some big names like Jocko, Chris Kyle, and others.
     
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    We all have known “hero’s” that have been presented as Christ returning that sure didn’t measure up in our personal experience. Once the cult of “internet warrior fame” has ramped up, its very hard to believe anyone is that perfect. We like pure angelic hero’s. People aren’t that way.
     
    No real surprise, SEALS left an Air Force PJ named Chapman (I think that's correct)to die in Afghanistan. The fucking cowards said he was dead and ran away. USAF watched him fight to the death against the Taliban from a Predator drone. SEALS REFUSED to support his MOH recommendation unless one of their gutless cowards got one as well.

    At some point it comes out. No matter how brave you are you still probably had other days.
     
    Chris Costa and Nathan Algren are the only icons whose military exploits can never be tainted.
     
    That's the first time I've heard anything negative about Chris Kyle.
     
    No real surprise, SEALS left an Air Force PJ named Chapman (I think that's correct)to die in Afghanistan. The fucking cowards said he was dead and ran away. USAF watched him fight to the death against the Taliban from a Predator drone. SEALS REFUSED to support his MOH recommendation unless one of their gutless cowards got one as well.

    At some point it comes out. No matter how brave you are you still probably had other days.

    They bring that up in the video. The party the host is interviewing is a SEAL member.

    Wonder what Don Shipley thinks.
     
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    John Chapman was a combat coordinator. Who is Jocko?

    Jocko's fame comes from his podcast.

    I see he has some sort of "leadership" business and does tours of battlefields to speak of communications, operations, coordination all the buzzwords.

    He was the Commander of "Bruiser" which I guess is the unit Chris Kyle worked in and seems to have gone rogue.

    They worked in the midst of the are my old unit, 3/8 (1980's) patrolled in. An officer from 3/8 tried to rein them in with no results.

    The Marines were trying to win hearts and minds but the heavy handed tactics of Bruiser blew that effort to pieces and made the Marines targets.
     
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    I haven’t listened to the Jocko response to it, don’t really care. Don’t really give a shit either way, but I do enjoy Jocko’s interviews with the MACV SOG guys he had on. If I had to guess, given the time frame 05/06 Ramadi, the seal unit was given a pretty lax ROE. The marines were doing their job and seals thought they were doing theirs. Just another clustershit of “nation building”. I did listen to both of the Green Beret Chronicle episodes and it sounds like Kyle was shooting anything that moved and everybody on the seal side was aware of it.
     
    I didn’t watch the vid, but I’m always leery of those tearing others down to build themselves up. If this guy is trying to get “cred” by “casting aspersions,” I’m viewing with a jaundiced eye.
     
    That's the first time I've heard anything negative about Chris Kyle.

    Chris was killing terrorists at gas stations and using his special ID that allowed him to murder people to get released by cops and having barfights with Jesse Ventura when he wasn't saving the world. He told a few whoppers in his time. Being full of shit is part and parcel to the Navy SEAL way of life. That does not detract from what he accomplished but it is a flaw common to their career field.

    Didn't we just do years of SEAL bullshit for that idiot who claimed he stabbed a terrorist to death with his knife? Eddie Gallagher? This one apparently started because these queers were stealing snacks from each others care packages or some such faggotry.

    This is why I like submariners, the fucking SILENT service. To bad the SEALS cannot follow suit. They are all over TV hocking fucking flashlights and shilling for shit TV shows or making fitness videos with Richard Simmons. What is the point of having secret special ops troops who post their bullshit on Facebook, get tracked by their Fitbits as the sneak into countries and get discovered by the enemy because they are fighting over who ate who's protein bar.
     
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    The SEAL was on that same podcast as in the OP and says that Operation Red Wings was a sham as far as Marcus' story goes. To summarize, he states that Marcus left his guys on that mountain when the shooting started. He was found in that village fully clothed with all his mags and told Army Rangers that all his guys were dead. He also mentions Jocko and Chris. He stated that he was doing this to try to make things right in the teams. There was a bunch of lies that the government had made up and it was causing tentions and disarray with the members. This is all with his face not covered or voice changed.
     
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    Chris was killing terrorists at gas stations and using his special ID that allowed him to murder people to get released by cops and having barfights with Jesse Ventura when he wasn't saving the world. He told a few whoppers in his time. Being full of shit is part and parcel to the Navy SEAL way of life. That does not detract from what he accomplished but it is a flaw common to their career field.

    Didn't we just do years of SEAL bullshit for that idiot who claimed he stabbed a terrorist to death with his knife? Eddie Gallagher? This one apparently started because these queers were stealing snacks from each others care packages or some such faggotry.

    This is why I like submariners, the fucking SILENT service. To bad the SEALS cannot follow suit. They are all over TV hocking fucking flashlights and shilling for shit TV shows or making fitness videos with Richard Simmons. What is the point of having secret special ops troops who post their bullshit on Facebook, get tracked by their Fitbits as the sneak into countries and get discovered by the enemy because they are fighting over who ate who's protein bar.
    Is “protein bar” a double entendre?