No, honestly it is an absolute blast. I've been learning the last two winters from a neighbor. And around here everything comes pre frozen.
But it's not much for eating, unfortunately.
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But it's not much for eating, unfortunately.
My Paternal Grandparents came here from Belgium just after WWI - as a kid in the 60's and '70's I realized that Grandma's entire backyard in the city was a garden. She saved stuff for compost, saved the water from the house gutters, and raised pigeons for sale and meat. She didn't buy groceries except for coffee and tea. Even grew grapes and made her own wine.
A person living in town can be self/family sufficient if they are of a mind to do that. We can even have up to 6 chickens (no roosters) in town now and the guy next door raises rabbits for meat/trade. I have a big garden planned for this year and The Wife is working on chickens. We'll get by. We own the house, we own the vehicles and we have enough dried beans, rice, salt, oil, and canned meat to live probably a year with absolutely no additional input of food. We are eating tomatoes her mom canned in 2008 right now as my MIL has gone to assisted living. I never knew home canned food could last for decades in a cool/dry spot in the basement.
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A person living in town can be self/family sufficient if they are of a mind to do that. We can even have up to 6 chickens (no roosters) in town now and the guy next door raises rabbits for meat/trade. I have a big garden planned for this year and The Wife is working on chickens. We'll get by. We own the house, we own the vehicles and we have enough dried beans, rice, salt, oil, and canned meat to live probably a year with absolutely no additional input of food. We are eating tomatoes her mom canned in 2008 right now as my MIL has gone to assisted living. I never knew home canned food could last for decades in a cool/dry spot in the basement.
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Gardens are a hard sell in our little neighborhood. We wind up harvesting jsut about anything we grow on the hoof. (The deer in our area are so plentiful, they wipe out anything they think is edible, so, we harvest our garden in the fall and early winter when it is legal to bag deer and squirrels).
Fish is plentiful and earth worms are everywhere, so Protein from bass and brim will never be a worry. BlackBerrys are also numerous.
My big regret was not planting fruit trees when we built our home 30 years ago.
Fish is plentiful and earth worms are everywhere, so Protein from bass and brim will never be a worry. BlackBerrys are also numerous.
My big regret was not planting fruit trees when we built our home 30 years ago.
You are on the right track....... Don't let all the propaganda de-rail you.
What ever plan you have for yourself, is much better than the plan the government has for you.
Find some happiness along the way.
Hope everyone has a way to cook their lentils…
I don’t watch the news. I do not have cable. When i saw this thread title i was thinking “huh, wonder what country they are talking about?” Surprise, its here. Shelves are stocked at my local, no hint of anything being short. Luckily i have plans for a garden and many other things, and my house gets paid off today.
This is mostly about soil. It fits in this thread nicely.
TL/DL he claims that our topsoil has less than 20 years of productivity left. And we're fucked.
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This one is about how shitty vegetables are for nutrition. Surprising to me.
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TL/DL he claims that our topsoil has less than 20 years of productivity left. And we're fucked.
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This one is about how shitty vegetables are for nutrition. Surprising to me.
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This one is about how shitty vegetables are for nutrition. Surprising to me.
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We use the manure from our cattle for our garden. They have free range mineral blocks for them too lick. Best tomatoes grow in that shit
And that's why that home grown stuff actually has taste and the genetically modified stuff has no taste.... The young people don't know there is a difference.
Most people are vitamin deficient now with everything at their fingertips. A shtf period would be so much worse. Very good point!
We use the manure from our cattle for our garden. They have free range mineral blocks for them too lick. Best tomatoes grow in that shit
I watched a documentary on gardening once, and it brought up the point that vegetables are grown/cultivated/ developed towards yield instead of flavor or nutrient content.
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This is true.
Most modern food has much less nutrients than just 30 years ago. It's discussed in the above podcasts.
This is hit and miss in my area. I’ll use this as an example.
If I go to Walmart, target or the local big grocery store there will be bare shelves in places. Now this is not as bad as it was a year ago.
Now it I stop at the independent grocery store in a small city that not far from me the store is always stocked. There might be a rare occasion that something isn’t on the shelves but it’s a night and day difference.
Farmers markets in little towns are a good place to find locals that grow food. There are things like candles and honey that should be on everyones list. Honey is not just good eats, you can use it on cuts.This is hit and miss in my area. I’ll use this as an example.
If I go to Walmart, target or the local big grocery store there will be bare shelves in places. Now this is not as bad as it was a year ago.
Now it I stop at the independent grocery store in a small city that not far from me the store is always stocked. There might be a rare occasion that something isn’t on the shelves but it’s a night and day difference.
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Went to Costco in the big city.
No “cheap eggs” but all the brown shell organic eggs a guy could want.
There freezers were full on on the front facing stuff but the INSIDE was not full. Several items were missing so they filled those spots w that they had. How do I know? Well when there’s 5 doors of one item and all 5 doors have different items signs and pricing….that’s how.
No “cheap eggs” but all the brown shell organic eggs a guy could want.
There freezers were full on on the front facing stuff but the INSIDE was not full. Several items were missing so they filled those spots w that they had. How do I know? Well when there’s 5 doors of one item and all 5 doors have different items signs and pricing….that’s how.
No, trapping is not. However, snaring is faster, cheaper and very effective. One can do a lot with a spool each of 1/16th and 3/32 snare cable. A snare can even be made without any locks, ferrules or clamps.
A properly made foot snare correctly placed in a trail will hold fair sized edibile critters. A strategically placed 330 conibear will hold a fair sized two legged critter.
To all those saying something along the lines of there is no nutrition in vegetables.
I strongly suggest learning the difference between modern seed crops and what is called 'Heirloom'.
There is a vast difference.
I strongly suggest learning the difference between modern seed crops and what is called 'Heirloom'.
There is a vast difference.
It's not that there's no nutrition, it's that the amount you have to consume to get a similar amount of nutrition from beef/meat is quite drastic. It's visible when comparing meat eaters to vegetable eaters. Areas where meat is extremely limited i.e. 3rd World Countries, etc. They also touch on how bad the health is for an actual strict vegetarian. They have to supplement and even then they are not getting proper nutrition and it causes all kinds of serious health issues. Listen to the podcast. I learned a lot listening to that particular podcast.
The reason you see the difference in empty shelves in the big citys vs small towns is the difference in the people. In the big city you have the dregs of society, simple people, the clay of the land, you know......morons. They will panic at the drop of a hat and start hording. Small town people are more self sufficient and have more common sense hence no panic buying.This is hit and miss in my area. I’ll use this as an example.
If I go to Walmart, target or the local big grocery store there will be bare shelves in places. Now this is not as bad as it was a year ago.
Now it I stop at the independent grocery store in a small city that not far from me the store is always stocked. There might be a rare occasion that something isn’t on the shelves but it’s a night and day difference.
Small town people already know to keep more than 1 can of beans on the shelf....
I am not aware of any genetically engineered fruits or vegetables that people eat.
This is mostly about soil. It fits in this thread nicely.
TL/DL he claims that our topsoil has less than 20 years of productivity left. And we're fucked.
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This one is about how shitty vegetables are for nutrition. Surprising to me.
I would compare that claim to Floda being underwater by 2010. We have tons of ground that could be broken open, not to mention we use fertilizer to farm in areas where there is no top soil left. On top of that there are places farming that still have feet of topsoil, and they loosing like .1" per year on average or something like that.[/url]
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Hybrid is not GMO.
You have no idea what your eating when it's bought in a grocery store...
Is it safe to eat GM crops? | Royal Society
There is no evidence that a crop is dangerous to eat just because it is GM. Before any GM food is permitted onto the market a variety of tests have to be completed.
royalsociety.org Link won't open. Also, not my claim. Just sharing info. I also find it hard to believe ALL the soil will be "dead" as I live on the High Plains and there's so much untouched soil. But, his claim is the top 6-8" is where all the nutrients are at.
If you're curious, listen to the podcast. Or don't. I'm just sharing information. I haven't lost any sleep over it.
Well GMO certainly starts and ends here.
Just because it's not common knowledge and is not pasted all over the place, EVERY vegetable and fruit you purchase in your grocery store is genetically modified in some way or another.
Monsanto and Dow are the biggest offenders.
Here, read this fancy bullshit from them:
I would not call either of them a big city. Ones population is 19,000 the other is 6000.
Not me, honey is to tasty to waste it on a bit of bleeding. heck, throw some water on it to wash away the mess and I’m good to go. (Until Brenda Lea finds out, then out come the soap, hydrogen peroxide, anti-septics, bandages. heck, you’d think I was about to die. That table saw wound isn’t so bad… (true story))Farmers markets in little towns are a good place to find locals that grow food. There are things like candles and honey that should be on everyones list. Honey is not just good eats, you can use it on cuts.
Edit: To add-
Honey on Wounds: When, How, Safety, and Effectiveness
Is it true you can use certain honey on wounds? We look at when it’s appropriate for wound care. How the pros use it safely. And what can make honey effective for healing.
It's more for when those things are gone.
No its not. Not even close, and like I said i bet you can't find a GMO that is approved for human consumption.
It wasn't a link but somehow got screwed up. fixed it and the response is there now.
About the only difference is that an heirloom is a stable hybrid that grows true to seed.
Good thing I actually did my job when deployed and learned a lot of shit as a medic while I was in. These skills will take me far as far as wounds and such. And I have a nice supply of meds and more.
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The nutrients are throughout the soil profile all the way to the center of the earth. Fertilizer seeps all the way to the ground water. Every mineral and macro is there theoretically, but needs something to put it in a plant available form. Fungus can make enzymes to dissolve almost anything. Plants form symbiosis with fungus and exchange sugars for nutrients they need.
Roots will grow much deeper than is often claimed as long as they don't meet a compaction layer. Driving a car on a field causes a compaction layer to form a foot or so down. Plowing or tilling cause a compaction layer a foot or so below the till depth. This is what traps roots in the top layers of soil.
These alarmist retards all play the same song to a different tune. My first thought would be what is he selling. My second is I am not going to waste my time listening to him when his very first claim is utter verifiable bullshit.
The plains aren't going to yield shit for food without irrigation.
Learn to brew. I just bottled a year’s supply of wine, made from wild berries picked in our suburban neighborhood. I’ve got another batch waiting on bottles. And, it is picking season…
I cannot believe the idiocy in your post.
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That's one way to look at it.
I look at things a bit different. If my family were starving would I care if the only corn left to eat was GMO, Hybrid or Heirloom ? No
Protean is going to go down that same road...
That’s what subsoiler’s are for. Pretty much a requirement in cotton country. Bring yoru A-Game. It takes a real horse to pull one of these. Our Brother-in-law used his largest tractor to pull his when he was growing cotton. Don’t know what they are using now that they are growing corn and beans. (like pretty much everyone else)
Just put about a half ac of sweet corn in te ground. Planted around 3/8 cause it's still a little cool. Also put in a couple rows of bush greenbeans. Flip a coin on if they come up. Going to be in the low 30's next week and not hotter than hell like out in Kansas and Nebraska and the rest of those hotass places.
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