Time to get NFA thrown out as unconstitutional.
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ATF shuts down E-forms
- Thread starter NoDopes
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Time to get NFA thrown out as unconstitutional.
We didn't receive any email notifications regarding a shutdown of that system.
Of course, that doesn't mean schit.
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Of course, that doesn't mean schit.
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I think I’d like to see verification from a source that isn’t looking for click numbers.
Several articles out there... I have not verified them at this point.
bnnbreaking.com
www.ammoland.com
ATF eForms Shutdown Sparks Concerns Amid Fast-Track Approvals and Budget Issues
Explore the sudden shutdown of the ATF's eForms system, its effects on gun shops, NFA applicants, and the future of firearms licensing.
bnnbreaking.com
ATF eForms System Shut Down Claims Budgeting Concerns
By shutting down the system, it appears that the ATF is ignoring the wishes of Congress and breaking the law.
www.ammoland.com
Okay, here’s the reasoning behind it then. Political pressure on the Republocrats.Several articles out there... I have not verified them at this point.
ATF eForms Shutdown Sparks Concerns Amid Fast-Track Approvals and Budget Issues
Explore the sudden shutdown of the ATF's eForms system, its effects on gun shops, NFA applicants, and the future of firearms licensing.
ATF eForms System Shut Down Claims Budgeting Concerns
By shutting down the system, it appears that the ATF is ignoring the wishes of Congress and breaking the law.
“The system, crucial for processing applications for silencers, short-barrel rifles, and other NFA items, reportedly closed due to Congressional budgeting concerns, leaving many to question the timing and reasoning behind the decision.”
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“In the months leading up to the shutdown, the eForms system saw a notable increase in the speed of application approvals. This efficiency led to speculation that the ATF might have been attempting to clear a backlog of applications before taking the system offline. The sudden halt in operations has transformed initial excitement over rapid approvals into concern over future delays and the impact on customer service. Congressional records emphasize the importance of prioritizing funding for the NFA Division to enhance processing times and address mounting backlogs, highlighting the critical nature of the eForms system to the firearms licensing process.”
Biden admin is using it to try and force a vote in their favor. There has been no government shutdown despite all the hue and cry that there will be.
It’s just politics as usual.
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And round two of the e form bulls hit is here. It was just a matter of time before they fabricated a reason to stop it AGAIN.
Of course this happens one day after I read about all the 3-4 day approval times, decide to jump on the bandwagon, and buy another suppressor.
Just got this pop-up when accessing my SilencerShop account.
Just got this pop-up when accessing my SilencerShop account.
I just got email notification from the ATF a form 4 submitted in Oct was approved today. The email included a pdf with the approved form and stamp. The site might be down but they’ll working.
Fucking useless politicians. I literally have a gunbroker auction going on right fucking now to fund my first suppressor; and now this shit!? The only things that need shut down are congressional salaries!
Some idiot programmer couldn’t figure out how to add 2/29 as a date and it crashed the system.
It’ll take the GayTF a month or two to figure it out.
It’ll take the GayTF a month or two to figure it out.
It's more direct to actually view the contents of the live link than rely on some 3rd party website to generate an article telling you if the link works.
Oh, and fuck those guys. This is exactly like when 0bama was dealing with budget shutdown and that MF'r went out and chained up all the parks.
Dammit!!!!
I just ordered a TBAC takedown .22 last night from Mike High!!!!!
FJB!!!!!
I just ordered a TBAC takedown .22 last night from Mike High!!!!!
FJB!!!!!
Yeah, I literally paid for a new huxwrx 7.62 Flow can less than 48 hours ago. I just got one approved last week after waiting over a year, and I was hearing about all of the fast approvals.
Figures.
Figures.
I have two Sakers in for a guy. Sequential serial numbers submitted minutes apart on eforms. One approved in about 90 days and the other still pending 2 weeks later.
Wait…WAIT ONE DAMN MINUTE. You posted an actual fact!!
How the hell am I supposed to hyperventilate over nothing if you post the actual facts.
The horror…the horror.
If you’re in the system you have nothing to worry about. This really only screws people trying to submit new forms right now.
It will be worth the wait….
I’ve got a Keltec P17 I’m picking up tomorrow. Can’t wait to put the TBAC on it and blow through some of this less than stellar 22 ammo I’ve been sitting on for years.
From the ATF Site: "While you may submit a paper application, you are encouraged to wait until the eForms system is back online."
Sit your ass down, STFU, and either wait or wait longer
Sit your ass down, STFU, and either wait or wait longer
I’m not sure that line was on there earlier today.
"encouraged to wait until the eForms system is back online."
Like they give a fuck if that's 6 months.
Like they give a fuck if that's 6 months.
At least you can buy solvent filters on Facebook without waiting.
These people seriously need to get their shit wired and stop overworking their people who are only 25% of what they actually need.
mine was submitted friday and got the approved email this morning
They have been underfunded for a long time. I've heard it's intentional.
had a friend get one back in three days last week. i still have one i did manually not with silencer shop on eforms thats at a year
This^^^ Didn't source a decent date library (and the lowest bidder most like built their own) and when the automated update hit the front end shit the bed. As an aside, I withdrew a Form1 and got the verification e-mail about 5 hours after the outage started so stuff is still getting processed but trying to certify? Well, we are fucked for the moment!Maybe the programmers didn't program a Feb. 29 into the platform
Hope they are back up soon, most commercial SaaS contracts have minimum uptime requirements...
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one glaring flaw in this statement is that they aren't clearing any backlogs at all. I'm still sitting on a shit ton of form 4's from mid last year, and all the new submissions are getting approved in days or weeks.
If I had to guess, and just a guess, the blitzkrieg on new form approvals is just them trying to skew their numbers in the "approval wait times" aggregate.
None of me believes these assholes just finally decided to start doing their job for our benefit.
Swell, I submittted mine 2/21. We pay a GD generous fee. Figured it should self funded program mostly
"Impatient" is my middle name
Seriously, I don't need another can but when I saw these fast approvals I figured I'll get another one and take advantage. But it seems no one really knows what is going on. I realize eforms has regular maintenance outages, but those videos make it seem like this is NOT just a planned maintenance outage. I hope they are wrong.
This all has to do with the .gov shutdown that was looming. They will shutdown stuff, sites etc, a few days prior. I saw a continuing resolution was passed yesterday. I would guess the site will be back up on Monday.
eForms is back up. So much for the conspiracy theories.
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