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Create a channel Learn moreCan you share anything on timeline? Similar price point?New stuff coming. They learned some really good lessons with these optics.
The next Gen stuff looks really cool!
Can you share anything on timeline? Similar price point?
Did Burris every have a 640 core? If they don’t have a 640 core I won’t be as excited. Maybe Steiner will do that though?The items I'm aware of are similarly priced, tough to say where pricing will land in this market. Burris's MO has always been value based pricing.
Not sure on the timeliness for release. I saw some items some time ago, so my money is on its close.
What I've seen looks pretty bad ass. Completely redesigned and improved.
I'm going to assume all Chinese that's "assembled" in Germany (someone has to screw on the mount).Redesigned like their own design or relableing Chinese thermals?
Moral of story, skip Steiner.I have no imput on unreleased products but have a Burris scanner and did have a Steiner S35 briefly.
For the money, the scanner works well. I use it for a loaner or let whoever is accompaning me hunting use it so they are literally not just sitting in the dark.
The S35 was a letdown. But to be honest it turned out to have had issues so I returned it.
For me thermal turned out to be a buy once cry once endeavor.
Ended up spending twice as much but much happier with my current setup.
Man, I thought the Steiner was a great buy. Only issue I've got with the Steiner is I wish battery life was better.Moral of story, skip Steiner.
Ended up spending twice as much but much happier with my current setup.
Steiner came into the thermal game to late with overpriced rebranded chyna thermals.I was very interested in the Steiner clip on until I saw info stating the sensor was chinese made. Wouldn't be surprised if they had issues with quality and obtaining parts in the last few years. I hope they move in the right direction seeing as I own two of their scopes and wouldn't like the brand to deteriorate into an empty worthless shell of its former self.
MSRP on the C35 was originally like 4 or 5K.Steiner was overpriced? Are there other 640 thermals that were $2000?
Steiner came into the thermal game to late with overpriced rebranded chyna thermals.
Steiner still makes other great products, so they'll be around for a long time.
SJC
I got a 640 pulsar handheld with rangefinder for scanning and a iRay Bolt TH50 for the rifle.What did you end up with?
How so?I got a 640 pulsar handheld with rangefinder for scanning and a iRay Bolt TH50 for the rifle.
The rifle scope is much more useful for me than the S35 was.
YMMV
The image quality is better. The display is HUGE on the Bolt.How so?
That is good to knowThe image quality is better. The display is HUGE on the Bolt.
California allows thermals? Guess governor Nuisance hasn't gotten the memo yet.I'm in California so a traditional rifle scope package type thermal works better on a bolt gun.
If you read the relevant law's text, it seems like whomever wrote it had spent more time watching Predator than investigating what actual I^2 & thermal weapon sights actually existed and what features they have... to quote CPC 468:California allows thermals? Guess governor Nuisance hasn't gotten the memo yet.
So an active IR illuminator is required and the telescope has to be electronic. So thermal clip-on's and dedicated thermal scopes as well as NV clip-on's without the presence of any integral or accessory illuminator (and since they're talking about possession being a violation it's probably a good idea to not even have an IR illuminator with you) are totally fine. NV clip-on's with a day scope and an illuminator are pretty questionable but since the telescope, which gets the canonical definition which includes a specification for >1x magnification and thus can't be classed as the NV clip-on itself, is not electronic. Dedicated NV, while in possession of an infrared illuminator, could probably be a violation but without any illuminator you're golden.Any person who knowingly buys, sells, receives, disposes of, conceals, or has in his possession a sniperscope shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than one year, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
As used in this section, sniperscope means any attachment, device or similar contrivance designed for or adaptable to use on a firearm which, through the use of a projected infrared light source and electronic telescope, enables the operator thereof to visually determine and locate the presence of objects during the nighttime
They get all their information from Hollywood movies, including thermal able to see through brick walls, heck, it can’t even see through glass. It’s pretty clear the morons who are writing these laws have no clue what actually exists. Colorado’s 15 round magazine ban was written poorly as well and you could go to a specialty shop and buy 30 round standard capacity magazines without issue.If you read the relevant law's text, it seems like whomever wrote it had spent more time watching Predator than investigating what actual I^2 & thermal weapon sights actually existed and what features they have... to quote CPC 468:
So an active IR illuminator is required and the telescope has to be electronic. So thermal clip-on's and dedicated thermal scopes as well as NV clip-on's without the presence of any integral or accessory illuminator (and since they're talking about possession being a violation it's probably a good idea to not even have an IR illuminator with you) are totally fine. NV clip-on's with a day scope and an illuminator are pretty questionable but since the telescope, which gets the canonical definition which includes a specification for >1x magnification and thus can't be classed as the NV clip-on itself, is not electronic. Dedicated NV, while in possession of an infrared illuminator, could probably be a violation but without any illuminator you're golden.
It's especially funny to me that they call it a "sniperscope" because, that not being an actual word with any broadly agreed upon definition, forced them to define the term and their own definition then rendered what could have been a very onerous ordinance which could have easily kept me from owning all the NV and thermal that I do into a toothless nothing burger.