2 form 4’s both on trusts
Silencer shop kiosk
Mailed 8/29/21
Approved 1/28/22
Picked up on 2/15/22
Silencer shop kiosk
Mailed 8/29/21
Approved 1/28/22
Picked up on 2/15/22
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Create a channel Learn moreLol my mistake had another day count on wrong datethats 271 days not 322
Is it even worth while calling in?Hate to say it, but you still got a while... I've got 2 Sandman-S cans still pending, and the first was cashed on 4/9, and the 2nd one on 5/21. Called yesterday, still pending on the first one, so I didn't even ask about the 2nd one. Should be getting REAL close though...
For you with a 5/24 cash date? No... Not for at least another 2 months, IMO. But it never hurts to call at least once and make sure it's still "Pending" and that everything is fine with your Form-4.Is it even worth while calling in?
HOW??? That's ridiculously fast!2 form 4’s both on trusts
Silencer shop kiosk
Mailed 8/29/21
Approved 1/28/22
Picked up on 2/15/22
I have no idea. I had 4 items that were in my name on a form 4 that I moved to my kids trust. All those forms showed up in my mailbox 4 days before my dealer called me on the 2 supressors. I don’t know if that had anything to do with it.HOW??? That's ridiculously fast!
And yet, I'm almost 11 months in on 2 Sandman-S cans, and already been approved for 3 other cans between middle of 2021 and Jan 2022... It's like, folks...I've already passed your background check 3 times in less than a year...What's taking so damn long?I have no idea. I had 4 items that were in my name on a form 4 that I moved to my kids trust. All those forms showed up in my mailbox 4 days before my dealer called me on the 2 supressors. I don’t know if that had anything to do with it.
All 6 of the forms were signed by the same examiner.
Yes, you can purchase, and then have them send it to your local SOT. But your local SOT will have to email/fax a copy of their FFL/SOT (if it's not already on file with the online store) to the online dealer before they can Form 3 it to them. Then once it arrives at your local dealer, then you go in and do your SS paperwork on the kiosk from there.I finally got my micro30 today after just over a year! Already planning my next.
Question though, if I purchase a suppressor from a smaller shop online and they transfer to my local FFL that has a silencer shop kiosk, can I do the rest of the process on the kiosk? Or is there any way I can do the new efile that they’re claiming is going to take only 3 months?
It’s such BS. I too held security clearances in both mil and as a contractor but those extensive background checks are absolutely not considered in favor of some low level FBI civil servant doing a fucking computer database check on you.Starting to see submissions come back -- "RETURN WITHOUT ACTION - Open FBI File". Never seen that before. Guy has a Secret Clearance for GodsSake..
You are completely correct. We have had dozens of customers since the e-file went live struggle with it in some way, proceed to take their anger out on us, demand a refund, and have taken business elsewhere. While on the dealer end it takes hours or usually days to hear back from either ATF or SilencerShop dealer sales to help resolve issues because everything is for the most part automated....From a Dealer's point of view - this E-file is a MESS.
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Sometimes I can get in... sometimes I can't. Trust submissions now require coordination so that the dealer and the customer are both signed in at the same time which I cannot make happen.
They took a broken system and broke it. I've still got submissions for customers that are 13 months in the pipeline and we are both wondering how their clearances fit in with the ones who will now only take 90 days max.
Starting to see submissions come back -- "RETURN WITHOUT ACTION - Open FBI File". Never seen that before. Guy has a Secret Clearance for GodsSake...
Mess...
FFS...is there any type of appeal process or ability to get access to why no action so they can clear it up...whatever the fuck those assholes in ATF/FBI think is out there?We have got a couple back "RETURN WITHOUT ACTION" and 1 denial, which is kinda funny because they are all current CCW permit holders, retired LE or MIL, and don't even has a much as a speeding ticket....
I had a buddy do it that was PCSing overseas. It took a letter and a copy of his orders showing a need to be expedited. There has to be a reason to expedite it for military service, or they won't do it.What's that? How does that work?
I had a buddy do it that was PCSing overseas. It took a letter and a copy of his orders showing a need to be expedited. There has to be a reason to expedite it for military service, or they won't do it.
So now I have to join the military? Man this supressor business is getting out of hand.I can confirm this, I had 5 stamps come back in less than a week back in 2016.
All you have to do is join and catch one of the upcoming trips to the com bloc to get your supressors expedited.So now I have to join the military? Man this supressor business is getting out of hand.
I just picked mine up yesterday. I don't remember the exact day, but it was early February 2021 when I purchased it through Silencer Shop and they efiled it for me.How long is the wait time on a form 4 to date? Post how long you have been waiting or how long you recently waited before it was completed and sighned.
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I'm waiting to see (hopefully soon) the efiles come back. Especially the early ones. Rumor of the 29 day one, that would be very nice.Yup... been pretty quiet around this thread. I'm at 336 days. The SOT is saying 12-14mo. Called the ATF again and I'm still pending. Not sure if they tell you if it's been assigned to an examiner or not. Sucks because we had been seeing mid March cash dates and I'm march 29th..
Order Placed - February 24, 2021Called the ATF and the nice person told me that my stamp was approved January 13th. Now to track down my FFL who moved.
Haha, for sure, I have two of those already....I'm counting 10 mos on that. If you want to talk about dates of purchase try buying a Thunderbeast can
Mosey over to the Form 1 mass denial thread. Plenty to complain about in there…Batch approval! Now that I don't have any cans in jail WTF am I going to complain about?
Form 4 - YHM Resonator K
Trust (2 RP)
Pending: 3/18/21
Approved: 2/23/22
Standardized wait: 343 days
State: NC
Form 4 - Griffin GP5
Trust (2 RP)
Pending: 4/9/21
Approved: 2/23/22
Standardized wait: 321 days
State: NC
Form 4 - Dead Air Sandman K
Trust (2 RP)
Pending: 6/2/21
Approved: 2/23/22
Standardized wait: 267 days
State: NC
Form 4 - Rugged Oculus
Trust (2 RP)
Pending: 9/8/21
Approved: 2/23/22
Standardized wait: 169 days
State: NC
Form 4 Trust (1 Responsible Person)
State: Indiana
Rugged Oculus 22
Purchased: 3/26/2021
Check Cashed: 4/8/2021
Approval: 2/27/2022
Received: 3/5/2022
Rugged Obsidian 45
Purchased: 3/26/2021
Check Cashed: 4/6/2021
Approval: 2/27/2022
Received: 3/5/2022
YHM Resonator R2
Purchased: 3/26/2021
Check Cashed: 4/6/2012
Approval: 2/27/2022
Received: 3/5/2022
I'm just impressed that the norm is 1 - 2 weeks slower than the slowest USPS option.Not my job, I'm just stating what has happened
It's because ATF sends out the approvals in batches, it doesn't get mailed as soon as it's approved so wherever your approval falls between mailings will control how long you have to wait, I was lucky enough to have mine approved right before a batch shipment.I'm just impressed that the norm is 1 - 2 weeks slower than the slowest USPS option.
Mine was approved 2-28-22. Since you got yours and I haven’t maybe I just missed a batch mailingIt's because ATF sends out the approvals in batches, it doesn't get mailed as soon as it's approved so wherever your approval falls between mailings will control how long you have to wait, I was lucky enough to have mine approved right before a batch shipment.
Highly possible, they might've mailed the batch out Monday morning and yours got approved during the day?Mine was approved 2-28-22. Since you got yours and I haven’t maybe I just missed a batch mailing