I have a Geissele SD-C, SD-E, and SD-3G, absolutely love all three.
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Create a channel Learn moreHey - you seem like a really smart guy.
Why don’t you go ahead and school us all with your in depth trigger engineering knowledge and experience.
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Get your eyes checked. There are noticeable differences. Then get your head checked.Geiselle
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AR Stoner 2 stage milspec
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Someone PLEASE tell me the difference between them.
It's almost impossible to tell from this angle.
FIFY.Get your eyes checked. There are BARELY noticeable differences.
Put Mark Larue’s triggers in all my ARs. You put one in yours you will not be disappointed.My AR varmint gun has had a Jewel 2 stage trigger for over twenty years. It is worn out and now is basically a three round burst. I have to admit that I did have fun at the range today shooting the 400 yd steel plates with 3 round burst! I'm looking for either a singe or two stage trigger that is reliable and has a light enough trigger pull for shooting small groups with a heavy barrel varmint gun. What is available these days?
I absolutely love my AR TT triggers as much as the ones in my bolt guns. I think I have 6 total TT triggers and every one of them is flawless. The adjustability is outstanding and the most crisp break of anything I've shot. I haven't shot an Elftman match but basically all of the other big name ones I have.I’ve got the Geisselle SDE in a rifle. It’s two stage and I’ve been really pleased with it.
I’ve also got a Rise trigger and it too has been pretty good.
I’ve never had an issue with either of them.
I’ve got TT Diamonds in my bolt guns and I wouldn’t hesitate to put one in an AR.
Haaaa the chick on the right looks really pissed lulz. But never mind that bullshit is the tri burst trigger still available?Ok you bunch a fudds.
Turns out n2ishun is right! I don’t mind admitting when I’m wrong. His astute observations made me start looking at it harder and it’s not just the triggers!
There are all sorts of barely noticeable differences people are trying to pass off as something special.
Just look at these tires! They are basically the same. Only difference is those grove thingys.
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And look at these red dots. Virtually identical other than that logo!
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And look at these lady swimmers! All the same except for that little dangly bit!!!
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Thanks for showing us the error of our ways! Glad I didn’t spend any more money on that marketing hype.
You’ll enjoy the 434. It’s become my favorite trigger. I literally have one in every AR I have built right now.For this AR, I ordered a RISE RA-434. It is a fully adjustable single stage with some nice features. I'm going to build another one and I'll try one of the other triggers mentioned, Trigger Tech, Timney or Gissele. It will be nice to finally be rid of the Jewel trigger. That thing has been a mess since Smack the Smiley was first started. I would drive to the desert to shoot it, and on the cold bore shot it would double and ruin the target. More than once it happened.
I'll trade you the trigger of your choice for yours!!!My AR varmint gun has had a Jewel 2 stage trigger for over twenty years. It is worn out and now is basically a three round burst. I have to admit that I did have fun at the range today shooting the 400 yd steel plates with 3 round burst! I'm looking for either a singe or two stage trigger that is reliable and has a light enough trigger pull for shooting small groups with a heavy barrel varmint gun. What is available these days?
Twas a time I had them in all my rifles, match rifles and general BS jobbers. Little by little I replaced most of them, not for any shortcoming, but just to experiment and try something new. First was a Hyperfire 24C when they first came out, then a Timney (..eh), most recenlty the Triggertech. That was mostly as an excuse. I wanted to try them, and the rifle I'd just put together for my nephew had a horrible stock trigger. But I couldn't see spending MORE money on him, but buying myself something new and suddenly having a CMC I no longer needed and could give him seemed like a viable excuse/lie.CMC single stage triggers for my AR rifles.
I wish I would have known yesterday before I bought the RISE!.I'll trade you the trigger of your choice for yours!!!
Another vote for Larue MBT 2SGeissele SSA-E or Larue MBT-2S
The Larue MBT 2S triggers are okay for slow precision shooting but they have the worst reset of any AR trigger I have used. They are a no-go for carbine use as far as I am concerned but would work and be the best bang for the buck for the OP’s varmint rifle use.Another vote for Larue MBT 2S
I haven't tried a Geissele single stage yet, but I've heard good things.I generally like Geissele triggers, but I really like the feel of a good single stage like CMC or Rise Armament. The Rise and CMC are a little easier to install and the feel great. I haven’t shot any of them yet, but only dry fired them after installing them.
I realize I’m late, but after reading two pages I’m shocked how under rated/represented TriggerTech is!If you're willing to spend a bit more, TriggerTech's top tier triggers are their Adaptable (2.5 - 5.0 lbs) and Diamond (1.5 - 4.0 lbs) that rarely go on sale, but are well worth the money if you're chasing that last bit of precision.
used 2 top shelf triggers for decades. settled on GiselleMy AR varmint gun has had a Jewel 2 stage trigger for over twenty years. It is worn out and now is basically a three round burst. I have to admit that I did have fun at the range today shooting the 400 yd steel plates with 3 round burst! I'm looking for either a singe or two stage trigger that is reliable and has a light enough trigger pull for shooting small groups with a heavy barrel varmint gun. What is available these days?
Same here. These are all I ever build my guns with. If you wait for the holidays you can pick up Geissele SSA-E (2-stage) triggers for 170-180 bucks at Palmetto, AR Discounts and Primary Arms. Brownells occasionally sells 'em for ~ $190 during the same holiday sales but you get their unbeatable no questions asked lifetime guarantee. SSA-E triggers are normally ~$240. Can't beat 'em.Geissele SSA-E or Larue MBT-2S
Repackage your trigger and sell it as a Binary Trigger.My AR varmint gun has had a Jewel 2 stage trigger for over twenty years. It is worn out and now is basically a three round burst. I have to admit that I did have fun at the range today shooting the 400 yd steel plates with 3 round burst! I'm looking for either a singe or two stage trigger that is reliable and has a light enough trigger pull for shooting small groups with a heavy barrel varmint gun. What is available these days?
CMC. Single stage flat. 2.5 lb. Have em in several AR platform. So far no problems. Super easy install. $189.00
I have both of those. Completely different in almost every way. Have you ever fired a rifle with either one of them?Geiselle
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Someone PLEASE tell me the difference between them.
It's almost impossible to tell from this angle.
The G2S is an SSA with a different method of holding the trigger pin in. Absolutely no difference otherwise in manufacture, feel, function, or pull weight. I run SSAs in all my ARs with one G2S mixed in somewhere (which is no issue since I also run KNS anti rotate pins in them all). I do not consider a single stage light pull trigger as a good match for an AR-15 or any other tactical rifle for that matter.No their ALG (QMS quality mil spec & ACT advanced combat trigger) triggers are basically enhanced/polished mil spec. Then they have their budget G2S triggers. Everything else including their SSP aren't even remotely close to a milspec trigger. A ssp 3lb break with no take up isn't comparable to a bubba'd milspec and I highly doubt Bill said it was.
You would be the only person I've ever seen refer to cheaper drop ins as "MUCH" better than a SSA-E or SSP. You can say Geissele is over priced but they are still easily some of the finest triggers made. I find it hard to believe you have quality trigger time behind a SSA-E and came to the conclusion it's not that great.
What do you consider a light single stage? The SSA-E two stage has a 3 1/2lb overall pull so I’m guessing anything less than 3 1/2lbs in a single stage.The G2S is an SSA with a different method of holding the trigger pin in. Absolutely no difference otherwise in manufacture, feel, function, or pull weight. I run SSAs in all my ARs with one G2S mixed in somewhere (which is no issue since I also run KNS anti rotate pins in them all). I do not consider a single stage light pull trigger as a good match for an AR-15 or any other tactical rifle for that matter.
Where's your sense of adventure? Trying new things is what life is all about.When it comes to AR triggers- I'm not willing to be a beta tester.
I just installed the RISE RA-434. It looks very well made. It has no perceptible take-up or creep. A very clean 3lb break with no noticeable over travel. Pretty impressive. I'll shoot it Monday.