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I was just laid off from my job yesterday. The wife and I moved to WA from the midwest just over a year ago. Her and I have missed home for a while once we got over the new great things to do in WA state. We love the outdoors, hiking, and camping; the cost of living is expensive here. We are paying $1500/mo for a 1bdrm apartment in the puget sound area.

We still have 5 months left on our lease agreement for this place. The cons about going back home is we have to deal with the brutal winters, flat landscape, and we would have to travel for our hiking/camping adventures to even come close to what WA offers. My loss of employment has created an obvious stressor to obtain income, but we also feel it has given us an opportunity to evaluate our situation and see if we really want to stay here long-term.

An added perk of going back home with the cheaper cost of living would be she could use her GI bill and attend school after I find work. Doing that here would be much more difficult.

Has anyone been in a similar situation?
 
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You will probably do better in teh long run in Wa state, depending on which MW state they tend to pay less there unless you are union trades. Stick with the search out there. Perhaps some on here can give you guidance where the openings are. Definite turn this into an opportunity though, have wife get her degree in a stem and you will be set.

 
Obviously, I'm not having a CLUE as to what the situation/predicament is, but are there any other venues for your LEO qualifications to fit in? Or, are you still looking for a job in LE, or,,,,,?

Way too many vagueness's, without any specifics's, so answers are pretty-much non-existent.
 
I live in occupied CO. Commies everywhere.

I would make less in IA, but an acreage is 1/4 of the cost of a nice place here. And the cost of living is less and quality of life better.

Without kids and shared custody from divorces keeping us here, I would move ASAP to a free RED state.

And I love the outdoors. All that stuff plus skiing and whitewater.
But the commies and the traffic are killer here.
 
I don't see why your wife can't use the GI bill now. If she's damaged (VA rated) she may qualify for Chapter 31 where they pay you to go to school. Also, they play LOOSE with those GI Bills, my buddy, his was SUPPOSED to expire five years ago, told him he fucked up. Well, they just paid for him to go to truck driving school and they pay a lot more than they used to and told him if he wants to go to another school to let 'em know. Holy shit. She should look into it. For a 4 year degree she could start at say a CC to make it easier and transfer after she gets her AA or AS. That's what I did.

I'm thinking about calling 'em to see if they'll just say fuck it and send me back for my math Phd seeing as how they quit giving a shit.

I went to school here and lived in Seattle. It ain't easy, but it can be done. I also had a 3bdrm. house with a basement in Greenlake for $50 less than you're paying for that apartment when I lived there. My ex rents those apartments, they're a fucking RIPOFF. Same two companies own almost all of 'em.

You need to buy a house here. It's what I've been working toward since the divorce last year. It's the only way you'll be able to live here. Unless you like throwing cash away. It's a fucking sin I have to rent my own house from my ex now as it is, still 3bdrm. and less than what you're paying with over an acre. Seriously, if you stay here, start looking for a home. You'll have to be patient to get what you want, then you can refinance it later for lower payments.

I thought they were needing cops here. Have you looked at ICE or Border Patrol? BP you gotta learn to speak to mexicans even if you live on the Canada border. "Vamanos" and "No habla" ain't gonna cut it. But it's an option I guess. You may or may not qualify for vet preference for the job, if you do it's worth looking into. Hell, that or the Post Office! I don't know what Navy does for security, Army used to contract it out but have soldiers doing it again. There are federal police jobs at the federal building. I'm just trying to come up with ideas...

Portland wouldn't be a bad idea though either. Ever been there? It's kinda like Seattle. On drugs. And I believe you can find stuff cheaper there.
 
How about this? I know a guy.....

for sale by owner.
If you know of anyone that is looking for a good starter house that sits right between Naval Base Bangor and Bremerton and close to everything, let them know.
Asking $295,000
A 3 bedroom, 2 bath house with a very open floor plan at 1096 sq feet. The living/family and dining room are divided by a 3 sided gas fire place that provides most of the heat for the house. The master bedroom has a master bath. The 2nd bathroom is located centrally. The kitchen has lots of storage with stove, microwave and refrigerator included. Storage in attic above garage and back bedroom. Two car garage. Large paver stone patio with cover over half of it. Small cement patio off Master Bedroom. Fenced yard with storage shed in back. Many mature plants throughout the property. New hot water heater just installed. Commons area with play ground and gazebo. RV storage in secure lot.
 
Come to Eastern Washington. Tri-Cities area. Hanford area is always looking for security guards, and so are the local PDs. Cheaper housing and not far from the Blues or Cascades. Columbia Basin Collage can help your wife with the education.
 
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Wa is great if you can choke down the politics/ libs/ commies.
Hunting/fishing/hiking/boating, etc plus pro sports and everything else a major metro has to offer.
There are several PDs looking to hire, plus the Wa state patrol, border patrol. You might check with the major Dams (power plants) they have security and it can be a great gig once you're in.
 
I live in SW Washington in a little podunk down, housing is reasonable, paid 207k for a 3 bed 2 bath 1400 sq ft house with a 30x36 shop on half an acre. There none of that big city bs here. The local city is looking for a LEO right now. It wouldn’t be a bad place to relocate to just don’t tell anyone ?
Eastern Washington would definitely be my next choice.
 
Can't say much either way about staying or going, that's on your needs. As someone who has moved several times, including last year clean across the country just to get back to the west where I'm from, my blood pressure is lower and my happiness is way higher as a result.

As for the GI Bill, I'm assuming you're talking about Post 9/11 type, that's something I do know a good bit about. Your wife can take online school at pretty much any US college and get the online BAH (Basic Allowance for Housing which is non-taxed) rate of around $900/mo (with all classes paid for 100%). If she takes just one additional class at the local junior college or wherever and it's both seated in class and counts towards her degree, she gets a BAH payment at E-5 With Dependents rate for your zip code area. For Seattle, that's $2808/mo, so a hefty chunk of change to go to college for free otherwise. Check your own zip code here if you're outside the SEATAC area: https://militarybenefits.info/bah-calculator/

In any case, best of luck to you and your lady, as I don't wish any fellow shooter to be unhappy.
 
I've thought about eastern WA. I used to live in MN, and LE gets paid pretty decently compared to the cost of living. It's all department based of course, but even the smaller PD's pay enough to live comfortably out there. I have a BS in business admin, but I graduated two years ago and have been in LE since graduation. I don't remember how to make pie charts and solve data analysis problems on excel anymore lol.

WA has been pressing for more gun control. Now that I-1639 has passed, you have to take a class on "assault weapons" in order to purchase one. You can buy a AR pistol or stripped lower without the class, but that is absolutely ridiculous. They tried to ban "high capacity magazines" but that failed. It's becoming more and more like CA.
 
Hey, Portland Oregon PD is hiring. It's close to where you are now.

Yea they need people bad... like only 3 out of the last 100 they interviewed passed the tests and background check then one guy went to another agency. If you want to talk to a officer that works there and give you a scoop on climate or other agencies in the area let me know.
 
I think both of us moving to another new state and not knowing anyone again would just be too much. Portland would just be another Seattle, and I would not want to work for SPD. Their hands are so tied up due to politics. The only benefit is they get paid really well because of it.
 
I think both of us moving to another new state and not knowing anyone again would just be too much. Portland would just be another Seattle, and I would not want to work for SPD. Their hands are so tied up due to politics. The only benefit is they get paid really well because of it.
What about washington fish and wildlife?
 
I’m very sorry for job issue.

As for moving, you could just pick another midwestern state that meets your requirements.

I’m in St. Louis and there are a ton of hiking hunting and other outdoorsy things to do within minutes. And lots of hills.

Also the cost of living is pretty low and gun laws are heavily in your favor. I.e. constitutional carry. I have property about two hours south and unless you really go looking, you could go days without seeing another person.

I was just laid off from my job yesterday. The wife and I moved to WA from the midwest just over a year ago. Her and I have missed home for a while once we got over the new great things to do in WA state. We love the outdoors, hiking, and camping; the cost of living is expensive here. We are paying $1500/mo for a 1bdrm apartment in the puget sound area.

We still have 5 months left on our lease agreement for this place. The cons about going back home is we have to deal with the brutal winters, flat landscape, and we would have to travel for our hiking/camping adventures to even come close to what WA offers. My loss of employment has created an obvious stressor to obtain income, but we also feel it has given us an opportunity to evaluate our situation and see if we really want to stay here long-term.

An added perk of going back home with the cheaper cost of living would be she could use her GI bill and attend school after I find work. Doing that here would be much more difficult.

Has anyone been in a similar situation?
 
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I was just laid off from my job yesterday. The wife and I moved to WA from the midwest just over a year ago. Her and I have missed home for a while once we got over the new great things to do in WA state. We love the outdoors, hiking, and camping; the cost of living is expensive here. We are paying $1500/mo for a 1bdrm apartment in the puget sound area.

We still have 5 months left on our lease agreement for this place. The cons about going back home is we have to deal with the brutal winters, flat landscape, and we would have to travel for our hiking/camping adventures to even come close to what WA offers. My loss of employment has created an obvious stressor to obtain income, but we also feel it has given us an opportunity to evaluate our situation and see if we really want to stay here long-term.

An added perk of going back home with the cheaper cost of living would be she could use her GI bill and attend school after I find work. Doing that here would be much more difficult.

Has anyone been in a similar situation?

I have been in a similar situation relative to layoffs twice in 33 years of working. There are a lot of positives you have going for you
  1. You have no kids which really adds to the financial stress.
  2. You have no house that chains you until you sell it.
  3. Sounds like you are relatively young
I know it is easy to say but you should enjoy the time-off versus stressing, if you are. Financial circumstances will work themselves out. Use the time constructively.
  1. Make a pro/con list of your last job. Put some thought into it so you know what you want to look for in your next job.
  2. Don't mope around the house without purpose. Go through your daily routine and keep busy.
  3. Make a budget so that you don't go into debt.
  4. Build a resume of your accomplishments
  5. Spend no more than a few hours (4 max) per day looking for a job. Do it every day. Spend the rest of the time doing positive things you enjoy.
  6. Assuming that the wife is working. If not, she needs to get a job.
  7. You can pick up security work part time to augment unemployment.
  8. If you don't have benefits or can't afford them, file for assistance. You put into the system and there is nothing wrong with taking something in return while you need it.
You will find a job soon enough. Think of it as an adventure and keep stress between you and the Mrs. low. You both should be committed to getting through this short term bump
 
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I have been in a similar situation relative to layoffs twice in 33 years of working. There are a lot of positives you have going for you
  1. You have no kids which really adds to the financial stress.
  2. You have no house that chains you until you sell it.
  3. Sounds like you are relatively young
I know it is easy to say but you should enjoy the time-off versus stressing, if you are. Financial circumstances will work themselves out. Use the time constructively.
  1. Make a pro/con list of your last job. Put some thought into it so you know what you want to look for in your next job.
  2. Don't mope around the house without purpose. Go through your daily routine and keep busy.
  3. Make a budget so that you don't go into debt.
  4. Build a resume of your accomplishments
  5. Spend no more than a few hours (4 max) per day looking for a job. Do it every day. Spend the rest of the time doing positive things you enjoy.
  6. Assuming that the wife is working. If not, she needs to get a job.
  7. You can pick up security work part time to augment unemployment.
  8. If you don't have benefits or can't afford them, file for assistance. You put into the system and there is nothing wrong with taking something in return while you need it.
You will find a job soon enough. Think of it as an adventure and keep stress between you and the Mrs. low. You both should be committed to getting through this short term bump


Yeah, I have been doing my best to stay productive. There are some appointments that have been put on hold and now those are scheduled. I made copies of my training records and started putting together a file for that. She is working, so that really helps. We are renting an apartment and we have 5 months left on our lease. We figured worst case scenario I could find work back home and she could either stay in WA until the lease ends or we/I can stay with friends/family while back home until the apartment lease is expired instead of paying for two places and living in one.

The unfortunate part of LE careers is the time delay between the hiring process and being hired. Even fast agencies still take about 3-4 months to process everything from application to start date. The good thing is we have enough to get by for a couple months in savings before I absolutely have to get a job, but we don't want to exhaust our savings either.

I have been trying to relax, but it's always on my mind. I am definitely using the time to stay in shape though. I can't let this just destroy me.
 
Take your time , dont rush if you dont have to,,, Lirne up some options,,, but definite send your gal to school so she can take care of you later in life
 
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