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Unertl Scope Manual

BasraBoy

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Found this....hope it may help some of you guys with these old scopes:

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Re: Unertl Scope Manual

Thanks for posting this- been looking for more information to add to my data bank on the old style scopes.
 
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I have an J.Unertl 19in scope with the number 49653 on it 12 power. It has J Unertl mounting rings and is mounted on a Belgium made 243 with # 4450. Riflr says NF action. Can anyone tell me about this setup
 
Re: Unertl Scope Manual

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: theyeag1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have an J.Unertl 19in scope with the number 49653 on it 12 power. It has J Unertl mounting rings and is mounted on a Belgium made 243 with # 4450. Riflr says NF action. Can anyone tell me about this setup </div></div>

Post photos and you`ll get some help-
 
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this is great, basraboy - my 1917 build is awaiting parts. barrel is on the way, mounts are awaiting a trip to the PO.

gotta find a bag of money for the glass, but now i know what to do with it when it get here....
 
Re: Unertl Scope Manual

I have a 14X Unertl sitting on top of a Winchester 52C heavy barrel with a single shot adaptor currently in it. Thanks for posting this information, it is very helpful to me.
 
Original link or file wasn't in this old thread. Is there any chance anyone else has it? I just inherited a 20x Unertl bought in 1949 by my wife's grandfather. Not sure what year the scope actually is, but the original sales receipt is dated 6/11/1949. $80.00

Thanks!
 
They are pretty simple.

Looks like you have the more common capped top mounts rather than the screw top.

Clockwise = down and left.

For cap top zero.....

1. Focus rear ocular with scope head on infinity setting to get clear reticle on white background.

2. Set parallax to your distance using scope head. Don't expect markings to be exact but you will find them close.

3. Zero as usual. Id suggest getting on paper at 25 yds.

4. Set zero stop on drum. Look for two small straight blade screws on the numbered elevation or windage drum. Loosen those two small screws and rotate the drum to your zero. Retighten tiny screws. Don't Mongo the screws.

5. Shoot and enjoy.

The USMC removed the recoil spring on the tube. Their belief was that with heavy recoil (30-06) they wanted to limit the forces the scope was exposed to.

With no spring when the rifle is fired the scope sits in space while the gun moves rearward under it. After firing the shooter has to pull the scope back into battery.

It sounds like a good theory to me and besides using my Unertl on a USMC clone gun I removed the spring as insurance against harming the scope. You could get the same effect by taking all tension off the spring.

What caliber is your rifle. Looks center fire.

My .22 Unertl

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My 30-06 Unertl

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My other 30-06 in need of a Unertl

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Thanks pmclaine . I am unsure of the rifle's caliber, as it's not the original barrel, and the original owners (wife's grandfather & then father) are now deceased. He used it at Camp Perry in the 50's & 60's, so I think it must be a .30-06.

I want to put it back in as original form as possible. I have what I believe is the original barrel, but need a stock. Any leads would be appreciated. This historical stuff is all new to me, but I love it.

Edit: here's another shot of it -
https://www.instagram.com/p/BdPsQAnFFiM/
 
Id say its in its original form now - an original Perry match rifle from the time period.

You would lose something special bringing it back to mil spec A3 config.

Id guess 30-06 also but never know until its checkedfor certain.
 
Id say its in its original form now - an original Perry match rifle from the time period.

You would lose something special bringing it back to mil spec A3 config.

Id guess 30-06 also but never know until its checkedfor certain.

Ok, interesting. I may do that. I did acquire another 1903, not sure which model, but it is unaltered, but for the stock: same sights as the one in your top photo, no scope mounts. I would like to convert one back to an original stock.
 
It's the top one in this picture.
 

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Neither is in mil configuration.

The bottom receiver has been drilled up front for the scope block but the rear ring appears to maintain the dovetail for the original A3 peep sight, Barrel and stock appear non GI.

Unsure if top is A# or 03 but it has been drilled for sights, barrel and stock, non GI.

It would take a lot of effort to bring them back to GI Im sorry to say. They look like nice match rifles of their era as is. They would lose value bringing back to "restored" GI - yet cost you a good dime.
 
Ok. Sounds like I have a lot of research to do on these. All the parts for the stocks, and sights for the one with the scope, are in a cigar box....I just can't find the stocks themselves. Probably long gone.

She also gave me a 1917 Lee Enfield that has been converted for Camp Perry shooting. Really heavy barrel, hand-stop and scope mounts. Traced it to being built in February 1918. Granddad paid $5 for it just after WWII. He saved the sales receipts for all of it. If I can find the 1911 he paid $17 for stashed somewhere, I'll be one happy camper.
 
All these rifles were just considered tools, not historical collector pieces.

They were reasonably cheap and well made receivers to build on with plenty of surplus ammo. The rifles your Granddad made are of the higher quality for these "sporters".

They were all built for purpose, some to hunt, ones like yours for marksmanship - maybe both.
 
That's a nice 1-1/4 inch combination target just what Im looking for but of the less expensive civilian variety.

That rear mount does not appear to be the one that belongs on the scope originally.
 
That's a nice 1-1/4 inch combination target just what Im looking for but of the less expensive civilian variety.

That rear mount does not appear to be the one that belongs on the scope originally.

Yeah total wrong rear mount and the crosshairs have been changed. But otherwise it looks good. It's a little high too. You can usually find one with a Can for about 5k.

2 center pics are real, with the incorrect on the outside.

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This is helpful, thanks. I have an old Unertl on a Remington 40-X that I purchased last year. I haven't spent much time with it because it's chambered for .222 Rem and I don't have any experience with the Unertl.