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Is something going on in Ukraine?

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I didn’t sign that. Don’t attack my homeland if you don’t want me to brutalize you beyond your wildest dreams.
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my impression, and I've said it before, is that the Russian forces deployed so far are not strong enough to accomplish their objectives in the time allotted.

The airborne units holding the airport are not meant to be there indefinitely; they were dropped in to seize the place until the armor got through. So far it has not. And Crete is a good example of what happens to overextended light airborne troops.

My belief is still that Russia is not attacking out of strength, but out of weakness as a last desperate gamble with their backs against the wall and time running out.

There are reports of large Russian reserves, but I wonder if these are not old and outdated material and second line troops which they didn't want to send in. So far no reports of Armata tanks, Su-35's or the Ratnik equipped troops. Either the news we are hearing is incorrect, or maybe they expected the Ukrainians to fold up without a fight like they did in Crimea, and got a rude surprise when they ran into all the Western hardware that we slathered on them with our taxpayer money.

What do you think the benefit of striking out weakness is?
 
So, if we were being invaded while Russia was taking the Ukraine and China is taking Taiwan and we are invaded here at home and Biden asks you to take up arms, what you gonna do?
 
So, if we were being invaded while Russia was taking the Ukraine and China is taking Taiwan and we are invaded here at home and Biden asks you to take up arms, what you gonna do?
So far the only thing youve said that hasn't happened is Biden asking us anything, oh and China hasn't taken Taiwan yet.
 
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So, if we were being invaded while Russia was taking the Ukraine and China is taking Taiwan and we are invaded here at home and Biden asks you to take up arms, what you gonna do?
Depends on who's invading. If it's the swedish bikini team my response would be quite a bit different than if it was North Korea.
 
So, if we were being invaded while Russia was taking the Ukraine and China is taking Taiwan and we are invaded here at home and Biden asks you to take up arms, what you gonna do?
I sure as hell, wouldn't be defending the Capitol! Take that for what it's worth. Mac
 
Has anyone heard news of any naval assaults?

Just intermittent reports of amphibious landings in the south and of course Zmiiny Island.

Russian Warship to an Isolated Ukrainian Outpost:
"This is a Russian Warship. I propose you lay down your arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed and unnecessary victims."

Last words of Ukrainian Outpost:
"Russian Warship, .......... Go FUCK yourself!"


Gotta admire the balls.
 
LOL.... New Clown World Order!

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That theory doesn't even stand up to the first question.

Then why, since they've been talking about Ukraine for what seems like forever, didn't they do this when Trump was around?

It's not like they just realized Ukraine was there as of last week or something.
 

Damn right. Talked to some coworkers today the oldest of which was 30.

I showed them a video of a mig supersonic at low altitude so they could hear how loud the sonic boom was.

They asked how I knew this and I told them Americans over age 40-45 expected to die in a major military conflict or from nukes.

I got looks of shock.
 
That theory doesn't even stand up to the first question.

Then why, since they've been talking about Ukraine for what seems like forever, didn't they do this when Trump was around?

It's not like they just realized Ukraine was there as of last week or something.

King is a fucking idiot who is very good at writing the same book over and over, it's not like he is going to throw out a genius opinion.
 
King is a fucking idiot who is very good at writing the same book over and over, it's not like he is going to throw out a genius opinion.
I used to finish every book no matter how bad. King had a lot of great books then he wrote Needful Things, it was a pile of garbage and never read any of his work after that. His being a flaming lib idiot has made that choice OK in retrospect.
 
So, if we were being invaded while Russia was taking the Ukraine and China is taking Taiwan and we are invaded here at home and Biden asks you to take up arms, what you gonna do?

Invaded by who? Mexicans? Already happening. Canadians? Who cares.

And I could see Biden's call to arms:

"My fellow Americans, our border is under attack by the, you know, those other guys"
 
Damn right. Talked to some coworkers today the oldest of which was 30.

I showed them a video of a mig supersonic at low altitude so they could hear how loud the sonic boom was.

They asked how I knew this and I told them Americans over age 40-45 expected to die in a major military conflict or from nukes.

I got looks of shock.
so true, I remember the cover of newsweek or time with russian kids goose stepping with aks and it was titled something like 'Russians youngest warriors' or something. We ALL expected to fight Russia. I laugh when people talk about school shootings and how 'tramatic' the school drills are for kids. Hell, my parents hid under desks for nuke bomb drills and we all expected to go to school and hear the roar of icbms. today's generation is the biggest bunch of illinformed, out of touch, and pussified ever!
 
That theory doesn't even stand up to the first question.

Then why, since they've been talking about Ukraine for what seems like forever, didn't they do this when Trump was around?

It's not like they just realized Ukraine was there as of last week or something.
It's fucking amazing to me how hard that boner the left has for Trump is. That is a viagra 4hour + go to the emergency room boner.... It's the boner that never goes away. It's a real mental illness.
 
so true, I remember the cover of newsweek or time with russian kids goose stepping with aks and it was titled something like 'Russians youngest warriors' or something. We ALL expected to fight Russia. I laugh when people talk about school shootings and how 'tramatic' the school drills are for kids. Hell, my parents hid under desks for nuke bomb drills and we all expected to go to school and hear the roar of icbms. today's generation is the biggest bunch of illinformed, out of touch, and pussified ever!
Early shopping centers and malls even until the early 80's had Civil Defense shelters, the awareness of that possibility was everywhere. It was just part of life not something anyone cowered in a corner and cried about.

I will have a small laugh at "Dawn of The Dead" having the shelter and supplies on the top floor though.
 
Early shopping centers and malls even until the early 80's had Civil Defense shelters, the awareness of that possibility was everywhere. It was just part of life not something anyone cowered in a corner and cried about.

I will have a small laugh at "Dawn of The Dead" having the shelter and supplies on the top floor though.

Thats free on YouTube right now.
 
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Early shopping centers and malls even until the early 80's had Civil Defense shelters, the awareness of that possibility was everywhere. It was just part of life not something anyone cowered in a corner and cried about.

I will have a small laugh at "Dawn of The Dead" having the shelter and supplies on the top floor
 
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Ukraine has banned all men from 18 to 60 from leaving the country.

I know a lot of people have fled to Poland.
 
Even if this was a stupid news talking head putting this thought near him... It would be declaring overt war on Russia. And if some Ukranian rogue sympathizer does it, who will be blamed now??

 
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Ukraine has banned all men from 18 to 60 from leaving the country.

I know a lot of people have fled to Poland.

Completely agree with this.

People need to have skin in the game. This is also a 2 way street in that, now that they are 'citizen soldiers' they will also hold .gov much, much more accountable for any dumb shit they try to get everyone involved in rather than being under the impression that 'somebody else' is going to deal with whatever happens.

Also, since women all want to be so equal...how about keeping them in country as well? Because equality.

As a side effect, the 'refugee crisis' that results for anything going on anywhere needs to fucking end. It's like anytime someone starts some shit somewhere, everyone else gets punished and has to deal with all of the people leaving that country and overwhelming them wanting free shit.

Sorry, we're closed. Now go back to where you came from and add to a growing armed populace that could actually be a larger fighting force than the people that came to fight you in the first place.
 
Oh NO he Won't!! Even if this was a stupid news talking head putting this thought near him...just mentioning this should be a war crime. It would be declaring overt war on Russia. And if some Ukranian rogue sympathizer does it, who will be blamed now??

The enemy is the corporate mainstream media! They are the true enemy of the West. I would say more damaging then and for sure utilized by China.
 
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