Damn.. Pompeo and Bolton better hide they kids, hide they wives, cuz Iran rape'n errrybody up in errr..
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Damn.. Pompeo and Bolton better hide they kids, hide they wives, cuz Iran rape'n errrybody up in errr..
I will refrain from saying what first came to mind
What I have to wonder is this: if the diplomatic protection service knows these things why don't they set up an ambush for these foreigners then kill them?
We are busy assassinating people all over the middle east and africa on any given day and have been for decades.
Then for some reason our news media acts all shocked when somebody else thinks they would really like to be able to do the same thing back?
Usually however the plots of the Iranians and such are pretty laughable and never ever had even a remote chance of working.
Then for some reason our news media acts all shocked when somebody else thinks they would really like to be able to do the same thing back?
Usually however the plots of the Iranians and such are pretty laughable and never ever had even a remote chance of working.
We should have done so the second our embassy personnel touched down on home soil.
As far as I'm concerned invading our embassy was an act of war and anyone working for the Iranian government should be killed right where they stand.
oh I agree
you smack the ever fking shit out of someone and everyone takes note. We should have pummeled the living fk out them and the mid east would be vastly different today.
If the US and our allies hadn’t invaded in the first place and spent the last hundred or so years completely fucking the region, the problems of the last 20 years wouldn’t be an issue in the first place
Right. Bolton could get bodied today and it would probably make the US a better place.
He would declare war on his mother if it meant he'd make a buck off of it.
facts. total war monger who never served. fuck him.
There is a delima here. And the US is not the sole reason for the turmoil in the region.
1st, oil is energy. It powers the modern world. Full stop.
2nd if the US wasn’t there someone else would be and those fuckers would still be fighting each other. We ended up there to keep control over that resource. Like it or not it is what it is.
3. We can be the team captain, starter, a bench rider, a fan or a hater. But regardless the game will be played.
None of this is a valid justification to force your way into a region to extract resources. Full stop
If the people of a region don’t want you there, you can’t go there. There’s plenty of oil elsewhere in the world and/or that’s what makes innovation so incredible.
Iran invaded our embassy and took our diplomatic mission hostage in 1979. Long before any invasion took place. We're you even alive back then?
In any case, no matter who started what, we should have responded to that overt act of war with overwhelming violence. Not doing so was Ronaldus Maximus gravest mistake.
The US orchestrated the overthrow of a democratically-elected Iranian leader in order to install its preferred puppet in 1953, which directly led up to the events of 1979. Were you even alive back then?
It would be a fair statement to say you Shouldn't.
But you absolutely can go into other people's lands, take their stuff and enslave or slaughter them. It's been going on for 1000's of yrs.
So that was after the CIA overthrew the democratic government that didn't want to sell out the country for a few trinkets.
(which we did on behalf of the British I might add)
And then there was the long suspected thing about the CIA maybe kind of sort of having been involved in keeping the bad guy around to put pressure on our puppet and makes sure he did as told.. but you know things like that tend to get out of hand and next thing you know your puppet is gone.
And there was of course the whole thing of the USA picking a side in the eternal war between the Jews and the Arabs, which the Arabs were of course unhappy about...
The reason mi6 and the cia influenced Iran in 53 was because they Stole an election and were about to nationalize a bunch of foreign investment in oil. It would be like if Biden went around and stole all the assests of the foreign companies drilling in the US after stealing the election.
Btw it was local Iranians that did most the work not us and British intel services.
So Crimea a river about the 53 Iranian Rev.
Btw it was local Iranians that did most the work not us and British intel services.
So Crimea a river about the 53 Iranian Rev.
I know the backstop. The point is that I'm not one of those who turns the other cheek.
We should have killed every man woman and child in Iran in 1981 to teach the world who isn't to be fucked with.
But we didn't and we showed the world that we are weak and ball less. Bin Laden is the result of that weakness.
To be fair, by the time we get to present times the US pretty much picked all the sides in various conflicts in that region.
Getting the Saudis and Chinese to fund the purchase of arms from Israel to send into Afghanistan via Pakistan in order to fight the Soviets has to rate as one of the crowning achievements in US diplomatic policy.
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I don't GAF. I don't turn the other cheek. We should have vaporized every man woman and child in Iran as retaliation.
By "stole" you mean had the audacity to vote against what the western powers wanted them to rubber stamp.
You mean by "nationalize", more like decided to undo the corruptly signed, one sided deals that were made to sell out the wealth of the country for a few trinkets.
Oh and of course the "locals" did most of the work, just like all the recent "colour revolutions" in Eastern Europe and the "Arab Spring".
Just bring in suitcases of cash and pay folks to do your dirty work...
Would that be before, or after we tell everybody else to please close and evacuate their embassies and get all their citizens to leave?
I'm pretty sure if you didn't give everybody else a chance to clear out, there would have been a lot of countries pretty pissed as they would have actually had more than that die. Would they like have the same right to nuke the USA for killing their citizens?
You'll notice almost the day Reagan got elected the hostages were released.
The whole embassy falling thing would have never been an issue if we didn't have a spinless idiot do gooder as president at the time.
Much like Putin didn't bother invading the Ukraine when "Russian puppet" Trump was in power
But the moment we had a senile old minor attracted person for president, they were game on...
Strong leaders that people are scared of keep the peace,
Weak leaders create the problem.
Avoid the problem in the first place and it's a lot easier.
Merica
Fuck yea
Moshaddegh literally stoped the vote counting. He stole the election.
I'd like to see bolton and ackmadenajad settle it in a cagematch.
For one I have a hard time thinking shit hole broke Iran could pull that off.
For two, I would have to try really hard to find a fuck to give if they did, I mean all those two asshats did was to cost mainstreet their lives and paychecks with their for (their) profit warhawking
also lest we forget it was us putting our proverbial dick in the Middle East that fucked Iran up, Americans used to vacation there, Twas not a bad place before we poorly played nation builder
For two, I would have to try really hard to find a fuck to give if they did, I mean all those two asshats did was to cost mainstreet their lives and paychecks with their for (their) profit warhawking
also lest we forget it was us putting our proverbial dick in the Middle East that fucked Iran up, Americans used to vacation there, Twas not a bad place before we poorly played nation builder
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it would be a shame if they got pompeoFor one I have a hard time thinking shit hole broke Iran could pull that off.
For two, I would have to try really hard to find a fuck to give if they did, I mean all those two asshats did was to cost mainstreet their lives and paychecks with their for (their) profit warhawking
also lest we forget it was us putting our proverbial dick in the Middle East that fucked Iran up, Americans used to vacation there, Twas not a bad place before we poorly played nation builder
/after he worked so hard to lose all that weight.
I guess these are opinions that can be had, however childish and ignorant they are.
It’s amazing how naive you can be by not realizing the connection between a giant military and a giant tyrannical gov at home
It’s amazing how naive you can be by not realizing the connection between a giant military and a giant tyrannical gov at home
You're a freak. No need to listen to you.
I see all the time on this site words about responsibility and actions having consequences. I guess those feelings can be selected at random to support one hypocrisy or another
Rock solid argument, much win.
And your other weak ass argument about me being born is something my kindergartener could see through. I don’t have to have been born at any certain time to read fucking history book. For as good as you are on the domestic tyrannical gov, you are equally bad about carrying water for the foreign policy of the same psychopaths
Because the Middle East was a beacon of freedom, peace, and prosperity before America came around right?
Pretty much the same as alway, except now we have the internet.
I don’t think my small gov credentials can be questioned so I’ll just do a little bit to get ahead of this. In absolutely no way am I endorsing the Iranian gov. They’re just as bad as any other gov, just in a different way
Now, to the response.
No, because they should be left alone to run their own region of the world how they see fit. It’s unfortunate that some people are born into the circumstances they are but everyone, everywhere deserves to be a free, sovereign human responsible for their own life and definitely shouldn’t have to worry about some assholes from a totally different corner of the globe telling and forcing them how to live
You have zero fucking proof of any correlation between tyranny and a strong military. You saying so doesn't make it so.
You're no intellectual just an idiot anarchist
Are we really free through, our taught freedom is to work and pay taxes and follow the laws handed down by elites or else.When you stop doing either one they put you in a cage.
Not just a “strong military”, enforcement gang of the empire
If you think the way the military is used to “uphold democratic values” or some other mindless tropes and not for securing power and resources for Washington’s owners you’re not half as smart as you think you are
The greatest marine in history(or so I’m told) Smedley Butler warned of this years ago. Do you think you’re smarter or more informed than him?
Everybody deserves this, unfortunately it’s not a reality. That should always be the goal being fought toward
People are amazing at self justification, I've talked to people that justify stealing from their employer by saying it was their bosses fault for being too dumb to catch them, or the good old "they weren't using it/didn't need it."
Most people are at some level a hypocrite.
However I would call it a universal truth that the strong can do or take what them want to any that are too weak to resists.
Thucydides basically said that 2400 years ago prefaced by, "Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power."
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