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all those stingers going to Ukraine, US won't be able to send any to Taiwan when the Chinese invade. Chinese want Chip manufacturing.
Hell, at this point, I wonder if current administration will give a crap. My best guess; Chinese are waiting to see how midterms turn out before they invade. Dems win = they'll wait 1.5 years.. R's win = invasion before they get sworn in. It's coming.
What’s your reasoning on your Republican/Democrat calculus?
 
Stingers are so old they didn’t even have the components to build any more.

Taiwan can build big boy SAMs.




all those stingers going to Ukraine, US won't be able to send any to Taiwan when the Chinese invade. Chinese want Chip manufacturing.
Hell, at this point, I wonder if current administration will give a crap. My best guess; Chinese are waiting to see how midterms turn out before they invade. Dems win = they'll wait 1.5 years.. R's win = invasion before they get sworn in. It's coming.
 
What’s your reasoning on your Republican/Democrat calculus?

I know a guy who worked on the team that increased Hellfire production tenfold when it was needed.

The calculus is killing Russians and bringing Europe deep into our orbit. For once that is bipartisan. Now we need to agree on energy dominance.
 
ex solider took out fuel truck, tanks run out of fuel. Tanks get hit by Uks army.

Dangerous old men. Love it. Those Russians vehicles did not have machine guns in armored cupolas. Stupid Russians did not learn from us in Iraq or from our othher wars.
 
Objectively speaking, the Russian & Novorussian forces are outnumbered at least 5 to 1, and Ukraine has been given $xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx worth of top technology that our MIC has spent billions of dollars perfecting. The entire NWO is united against them and is fighting tooth and nail to protect it's secrets and destroy the last white, Christian country that exists as a roadblock to their global domination. Who would bet the family farm on those odds?

Sure dude. Communist crusted dictatorship invaded Christian democracy. Fixed it for you. Don’t forget about Poland or Switzerland or Hungary.
 
Ha! a neocunt globalist accusing others of being an international socialist while gloating about the billions of my tax dollars that were stolen and laundered to advance the great reset.

When did I hear bullshit like that last? oh yeah....

iu
 
Ah man. Ukraine is not weak, it is strong!! Where are all the Putin lovers saying the gloves will come off soon?
Ukraine is weak, they are being propped up, Without free hand outs, on the US and Europeans dime... this war would be over.

30 years of Iraq, you apparently didn’t learn anything. Or 20 years of Afghanistan
 
Ukraine is weak, they are being propped up, Without free hand outs, on the US and Europeans dime... this war would be over.

30 years of Iraq, you apparently didn’t learn anything. Or 20 years of Afghanistan
He does indeed have an appropriate user name. Why lol the hard-ons for Ukraine? I don’t get it, I’m not a Russia fan either but I’m also not blind to the very obvious propaganda either(video game recordings of Ukraine “winning”, or 2014 videos passed off as new)
 
I have to admit I’m a little surprised by the lack of interest in the ‘knock on’ effects of the war. Everyone seems obsessed with frontlines moving back and forth a km or two each day but the energy/food crisis and transition away from the USD as the international currency almost seems footnotes in the scheme of things.

It’s probably not an exaggeration to say that all Putin has to do is hold his ground over the winter and Europe may descend into a rabble, yet all we see and hear is ‘Ukraine blew up a bridge. Slava Ukrani!!’

I don’t get it….
 
And as a second thing, deconstructing the various information warfare campaigns after the war is finished is going to be wild. Kinda hoping someone is archiving the relevant parts of Twitter, Reddit and Telegram somewhere……(I don’t have the disk storage to do it, and social media network analysis isn’t really a part a data science I’m super strong in)
 
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I have to admit I’m a little surprised by the lack of interest in the ‘knock on’ effects of the war. Everyone seems obsessed with frontlines moving back and forth a km or two each day but the energy/food crisis and transition away from the USD as the international currency almost seems footnotes in the scheme of things.

It’s probably not an exaggeration to say that all Putin has to do is hold his ground over the winter and Europe may descend into a rabble, yet all we see and hear is ‘Ukraine blew up a bridge. Slava Ukrani!!’

I don’t get it….
This.
Germany, France, you’ve sanctioned your oil supply. Dismantled your coal and nuclear production.

Winter is coming.

Do you have a plan?
 
Where are all the commie-loving Putin-ball-sack-licking military geniuses now?

Ukraine started its offensives about a month out from the start of the muddy season.

Kuipyansk falls and Russia is fucked.

I see commie-loving Zelenski-ball-sack-licking military genius is back with uki propaganda :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
You do know that ukies were commies and were in charge of USSR for many years? Do you??

BTW, according to you Russia was fucked and Ukraine was winning since Feb. ;)
 
I have to admit I’m a little surprised by the lack of interest in the ‘knock on’ effects of the war. Everyone seems obsessed with frontlines moving back and forth a km or two each day but the energy/food crisis and transition away from the USD as the international currency almost seems footnotes in the scheme of things.
Those topics are covered in other threads.
Inflation
Recession
Food riots, energy
 
Those topics are covered in other threads.
Inflation
Recession
Food riots, energy
I was referring to more generally rather than SH. There seems to be this blatant refusal by anyone in the west (particularly in the msm) to recognise they have started not only a ground war but also a trade war that could literally destroy Europe as we know it. Anything to do with inflation, energy crisis etc is discussed in complete isolation like it’s some magical problem that no one saw coming
 
Do you want the conspiracy version?
I was referring to more generally rather than SH. There seems to be this blatant refusal by anyone in the west (particularly in the msm) to recognise they have started not only a ground war but also a trade war that could literally destroy Europe as we know it. Anything to do with inflation, energy crisis etc is discussed in complete isolation like it’s some magical problem that no one saw coming
Have you noticed that most things labeled "conspiracy" have turned out to be truth?
 
What’s your reasoning on your Republican/Democrat calculus?
I know a guy who worked on the team that increased Hellfire production tenfold when it was needed.

The calculus is killing Russians and bringing Europe deep into our orbit. For once that is bipartisan. Now we need to agree on energy dominance.

Question was directed @babyguppy, who predicted that China would invade Taiwan if Republicans win mid-terms "before they get sworn in" but will wait 1.5 years if Dems win. I'm interested in reasons why.
 
Yes, Ukraine is very strong! Nobody in the world believed it would stand for more than 3 weeks. The Ukrainian people have an advantage in this war as they fight for their motherland and for the future of their country, unlike Russians who came there to kill for money.
thousands of russians were slaughtered by ukrainian nazis in the last 8 years.
how many countries did we invade and destroy after 3k americans were killed on 9/11?

the difference is the nazis were on the russian border killing more ethnic russians every day.
we waged wars thousands of miles away, killing, injuring and displacing millions that posed no threat to americans.

ethnic russians in donbas and the south don't see ukraine as their motherland. they were russians until lenin redrew the boundaries.
do you know why the communists expanded ukraine?
it is because they just got done righting the "real" ukrainians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian–Soviet_War)
lenin expanded "the ukraine" to include the east and south to prevent unity and future nationalist endeavors.

Ukraine-Map-01.jpeg
 
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thousands of russians were slaughtered by ukrainian nazis in the last 8 years.
how many countries did we invade and destroy after 3k americans were killed on 9/11?

the difference is the nazis were on the russian border killing more ethnic russians every day.
we waged wars thousands of miles away, killing, injuring and displacing millions that posed no threat to americans.

ethnic russians in donbas and the south don't see ukraine as their motherland. they were russians until lenin redrew the boundaries?
do you know why the communists expanded ukraine?
it is because they just got done righting the "real" ukrainians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian–Soviet_War)
lenin expanded "the ukraine" to include the east and south to prevent unity and future nationalist endeavors.

Ukraine-Map-01.jpeg
Russia gave it away...
No take backs..
 
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He does indeed have an appropriate user name. Why lol the hard-ons for Ukraine? I don’t get it, I’m not a Russia fan either but I’m also not blind to the very obvious propaganda either(video game recordings of Ukraine “winning”, or 2014 videos passed off as new)
This whole situation is a shit show and unnecessary. Both the US, Eu and Russia are fucking up here.

Old loser mentions bringing Europe into our orbit... Russia is Europe... a large chunk of it.
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You how about peaceful solutions and mutual respect. So millions of people do not have to be displaced, hundreds of thousands killed, billions effected. Trying to solve problems through destruction does just that, destroys things. We a quit literally giving Ukraine weapons to shell their own infrastructure. Nuclear plants, Hydrorlectric plant, Bridges, Railways, manufacturing facilities.

We provoked a civil war... that has globe effects... Biden, Johnson, Zelensky and Putin and others are all fucking up here!
 
This whole situation is a shit show and unnecessary. Both the US, Eu and Russia are fucking up here.

Old loser mentions bringing Europe into our orbit... Russia is Europe... a large chunk of it. View attachment 7952678

You how about peaceful solutions and mutual respect. So millions of people do not have to be displaced, hundreds of thousands killed, billions effected. Trying to solve problems through destruction does just that, destroys things. We a quit literally giving Ukraine weapons to shell their own infrastructure. Nuclear plants, Hydrorlectric plant, Bridges, Railways, manufacturing facilities.

We provoked a civil war... that has globe effects... Biden, Johnson, Zelensky and Putin and others are all fucking up here!

America is really good at this!
 
We provoked a civil war... that has globe effects... Biden, Johnson, Zelensky and Putin and others are all fucking up here!
we provoked a war in order to destroy Russia since they don't toe the NWO line. Russia's attitude is unheard of and unacceptable to the leftists - Russia is actually looking out for their own national interests instead of the interests of the F-bags who run the NWO! Russian style MAGA! oh no! MRGA. and we know what our treasonous cunt president and media tells us to believe about the MAGA philosophy.

Other than Trump, name one president since Reagan who put our national interests ahead of the interests of the NWO (while falsely dressing up the endless NWO wars as "American patriotism")

GWB began this in Georgia, Obama continued it in Syria and Kiev, and then Hillary was supposed to end it. But then Trump unexpectedly came along in '16 (the left cheated, but not enough. they lost because they underestimated the number of real live voters for Trump) and he actually did things that were good for America....and suddenly the causes for war disappeared. When illegitimate pawn Biden came in, the war plans turned back on.

Imagine that. for all those decades when we faced off against the evil empire of the USSR. And they truly were evil. Yet we had the wisdom and forbearance not to provoke a fucking war right on the doorstep of Moscow. Why? Certainly the communists deserved to get wiped out. But we didn't because of the threat of nuclear annihilation. Now these fucking cunts, the leftist "neocons" and the leftist progressives provoke an aggressive war that never would have happened, and are ready to push the button without any regrets. And remember, these are the same elitists who say that the world's population should be reduced by 4/5ths or so.
 
we provoked a war in order to destroy Russia since they don't toe the NWO line. Russia's attitude is unheard of and unacceptable to the leftists - Russia is actually looking out for their own national interests instead of the interests of the F-bags who run the NWO! Russian style MAGA! oh no! MRGA. and we know what our treasonous cunt president and media tells us to believe about the MAGA philosophy.

Other than Trump, name one president since Reagan who put our national interests ahead of the interests of the NWO (while falsely dressing up the endless NWO wars as "American patriotism")

GWB began this in Georgia, Obama continued it in Syria and Kiev, and then Hillary was supposed to end it. But then Trump unexpectedly came along in '16 (the left cheated, but not enough. they lost because they underestimated the number of real live voters for Trump) and he actually did things that were good for America....and suddenly the causes for war disappeared. When illegitimate pawn Biden came in, the war plans turned back on.

Imagine that. for all those decades when we faced off against the evil empire of the USSR. And they truly were evil. Yet we had the wisdom and forbearance not to provoke a fucking war right on the doorstep of Moscow. Why? Certainly the communists deserved to get wiped out. But we didn't because of the threat of nuclear annihilation. Now these fucking cunts, the leftist "neocons" and the leftist progressives provoke an aggressive war that never would have happened, and are ready to push the button without any regrets. And remember, these are the same elitists who say that the world's population should be reduced by 4/5ths or so.
We been arming and spawning wars in other countries for our own interests much earlier than GWB. But yeah I agree with you.
 
we provoked a war in order to destroy Russia since they don't toe the NWO line. Russia's attitude is unheard of and unacceptable to the leftists - Russia is actually looking out for their own national interests instead of the interests of the F-bags who run the NWO! Russian style MAGA! oh no! MRGA. and we know what our treasonous cunt president and media tells us to believe about the MAGA philosophy.

Other than Trump, name one president since Reagan who put our national interests ahead of the interests of the NWO (while falsely dressing up the endless NWO wars as "American patriotism")

GWB began this in Georgia, Obama continued it in Syria and Kiev, and then Hillary was supposed to end it. But then Trump unexpectedly came along in '16 (the left cheated, but not enough. they lost because they underestimated the number of real live voters for Trump) and he actually did things that were good for America....and suddenly the causes for war disappeared. When illegitimate pawn Biden came in, the war plans turned back on.

Imagine that. for all those decades when we faced off against the evil empire of the USSR. And they truly were evil. Yet we had the wisdom and forbearance not to provoke a fucking war right on the doorstep of Moscow. Why? Certainly the communists deserved to get wiped out. But we didn't because of the threat of nuclear annihilation. Now these fucking cunts, the leftist "neocons" and the leftist progressives provoke an aggressive war that never would have happened, and are ready to push the button without any regrets. And remember, these are the same elitists who say that the world's population should be reduced by 4/5ths or so.
Dude the Commies got wiped out around the time the wall in Berlin fell. Lots of commie dictators got hung or killed.

We’ve been poking the bear since the commies took over with US troops on Russian soil every year since. The Cold War has always been warm. And since the Wall fell we’ve been rolling back the Commie proxy states one by one.

Putin was and is stupid. This was his to win and his to lose. A free market Eastern Europe was his for the taking but he blew it.
 
we provoked a war in order to destroy Russia since they don't toe the NWO line. Russia's attitude is unheard of and unacceptable to the leftists - Russia is actually looking out for their own national interests instead of the interests of the F-bags who run the NWO! Russian style MAGA! oh no! MRGA. and we know what our treasonous cunt president and media tells us to believe about the MAGA philosophy.

Other than Trump, name one president since Reagan who put our national interests ahead of the interests of the NWO (while falsely dressing up the endless NWO wars as "American patriotism")

GWB began this in Georgia, Obama continued it in Syria and Kiev, and then Hillary was supposed to end it. But then Trump unexpectedly came along in '16 (the left cheated, but not enough. they lost because they underestimated the number of real live voters for Trump) and he actually did things that were good for America....and suddenly the causes for war disappeared. When illegitimate pawn Biden came in, the war plans turned back on.

Imagine that. for all those decades when we faced off against the evil empire of the USSR. And they truly were evil. Yet we had the wisdom and forbearance not to provoke a fucking war right on the doorstep of Moscow. Why? Certainly the communists deserved to get wiped out. But we didn't because of the threat of nuclear annihilation. Now these fucking cunts, the leftist "neocons" and the leftist progressives provoke an aggressive war that never would have happened, and are ready to push the button without any regrets. And remember, these are the same elitists who say that the world's population should be reduced by 4/5ths or so.
Mostly agree with ya.
 
Dude the Commies got wiped out around the time the wall in Berlin fell. Lots of commie dictators got hung or killed.

We’ve been poking the bear since the commies took over with US troops on Russian soil every year since. The Cold War has always been warm. And since the Wall fell we’ve been rolling back the Commie proxy states one by one.

Putin was and is stupid. This was his to win and his to lose. A free market Eastern Europe was his for the taking but he blew it.
And in that “ roll back of commie proxy states” you have turned the largest country in the world, with more mineral and material resources than all of the EU combined into a full blown enemy...

 
This whole situation is a shit show and unnecessary. Both the US, Eu and Russia are fucking up here.

Old loser mentions bringing Europe into our orbit... Russia is Europe... a large chunk of it. View attachment 7952678

You how about peaceful solutions and mutual respect. So millions of people do not have to be displaced, hundreds of thousands killed, billions effected. Trying to solve problems through destruction does just that, destroys things. We a quit literally giving Ukraine weapons to shell their own infrastructure. Nuclear plants, Hydrorlectric plant, Bridges, Railways, manufacturing facilities.

We provoked a civil war... that has globe effects... Biden, Johnson, Zelensky and Putin and others are all fucking up here!
This is what the US gov’t does. Usually it’s with it’s own military. You may have even taken part in some of it. Many have, you know.....for the constitution.
 
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And in that “ roll back of commie proxy states” you have turned the largest country in the world, with more mineral and material resources than all of the EU combined into a full blown enemy...


the funny thing is that Russia became very pro-USA up until about 2014.

or, I should say "pro old-USA" in tune with our old values.

they absolutely detest the gay *** pedo culture of modern America and Europe that has been forced on us. Of course, so do most American conservatives.....hence the accusations of being "Putin lovers" by the pedo-fag-progressive crowd who see the common conservatism and hate it.

I know someone who came from Russia back in the 90's. One day back then, we were watching the news when a democrat politician came on, spouting their typical fucktard rhetoric. This ex-Russian was shocked at what she was hearing and said "What is happening here! I never knew you had communists in America" and was very upset about the prospect of leaving one place that the communists had ruined, in exchange for another place that the communists were about to ruin.


but yeah. the pedo *** communists, and NWO elitists have identified their mortal enemies and are working just as hard to destroy Russia as they are working to destroy American conservatives.
 
I never realized just how many communists were on this forum , a real eye opener . It does explain the putin/trumb love, sadly .
 
I never realized just how many communists were on this forum , a real eye opener . It does explain the putin/trumb love, sadly .
 
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I never realized just how many communists were on this forum , a real eye opener . It does explain the putin/trumb love, sadly .
I generally Ignore you because it’s obvious what you are doing.

Explain to me whats so bad about having a positive working relationship with one of the world powers, Russia.

Judging by your rambling on here you seem like a sad sack of shit, not at all geared for constructive discussion, just ignorant, in your mind inflammatory comments. You ou seek attention through negativity. People like yourself are the scourge of the planet.

Look in a mirror... you are the problem
 
I never realized just how many communists were on this forum , a real eye opener . It does explain the putin/trumb love, sadly .

I never realized just how many communists were on this forum , a real eye opener . It does explain the putin/trumb love, sadly .


Because it sounds even dumber the second time he posts it……..
 
we provoked a war in order to destroy Russia since they don't toe the NWO line. Russia's attitude is unheard of and unacceptable to the leftists - Russia is actually looking out for their own national interests instead of the interests of the F-bags who run the NWO! Russian style MAGA! oh no! MRGA. and we know what our treasonous cunt president and media tells us to believe about the MAGA philosophy.

Other than Trump, name one president since Reagan who put our national interests ahead of the interests of the NWO (while falsely dressing up the endless NWO wars as "American patriotism")

GWB began this in Georgia, Obama continued it in Syria and Kiev, and then Hillary was supposed to end it. But then Trump unexpectedly came along in '16 (the left cheated, but not enough. they lost because they underestimated the number of real live voters for Trump) and he actually did things that were good for America....and suddenly the causes for war disappeared. When illegitimate pawn Biden came in, the war plans turned back on.

Imagine that. for all those decades when we faced off against the evil empire of the USSR. And they truly were evil. Yet we had the wisdom and forbearance not to provoke a fucking war right on the doorstep of Moscow. Why? Certainly the communists deserved to get wiped out. But we didn't because of the threat of nuclear annihilation. Now these fucking cunts, the leftist "neocons" and the leftist progressives provoke an aggressive war that never would have happened, and are ready to push the button without any regrets. And remember, these are the same elitists who say that the world's population should be reduced by 4/5ths or so.

The US Army commissioned a study in 2019 that found that the US's strategic position in Eurasia could be benefited by baiting Russia into a proxy war, specifically with Ukraine.



"While NATO’s requirement for unanimity makes it unlikely that Ukraine could gain membership in the foreseeable future, Washington’s pushing this possibility could boost Ukrainian resolve while leading Russia to redouble its efforts to forestall such a development."
 
Interesting that a road sign on a country road in Ukraine would read in English as a second language.

Time will tell.

It seems like the russians are fleeing in panic and are leaving a lot of intact equipment to the ukranians:
 
Objectively speaking, the Russian & Novorussian forces are outnumbered at least 5 to 1, and Ukraine has been given $xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx worth of top technology that our MIC has spent billions of dollars perfecting. The entire NWO is united against them and is fighting tooth and nail to protect it's secrets and destroy the last white, Christian country that exists as a roadblock to their global domination. Who would bet the family farm on those odds?
Yeah, Putin is the last great white hope in the world.

Sieg Heil, Putin !!!✋✋
 
I never realized just how many communists were on this forum , a real eye opener . It does explain the putin/trumb love, sadly .
Putin is an odd mix of communism/socialist and nationalist fascism bordering on nazism resulting in old fashioned dictatorship.

After millennia of dictatorship/imperialism/foreign subjugation (golden horde) wondering how many more decades before Russians ever will live under a democracy or republic
 
This.
Germany, France, you’ve sanctioned your oil supply. Dismantled your coal and nuclear production.

Winter is coming.

Do you have a plan?
yeah, their plan is to freeze, starve, not shower, and then import millions more African and muslim refugees and wring their hands over how horrible their own European heritage is, and then get mad at Russia and Hungary for not doing the same.
 
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It seems like the russians are fleeing in panic and are leaving a lot of intact equipment to the ukranians:

They've been doing that since day one lol.

Another funny thing, several videos I remember seeing which were reportedly of dead foreign volunteers are now on youtube except the guys are still very much alive and making more videos.

The amount of propaganda is staggering. Think of it as a dry run for if WW3 ever kicks off.
 
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