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Are you happy where you live?

Yes and no. I would prefer to be somewhere where they gotta pipe in sunshine and fresh air, but I don't think that exists anymore. I had been saving to get enough money to put down on a retirement property out west somewhere, but now post pandemic, I can't afford anything that I like, and everything I can afford is shit property that would basically be off grid living in it's entirety, and my wife will never go for that.

My house is comfortable, well located, and I can shoot in the backyard. My shop is just the right size, and my neighbors are all decent except for one commie next door to the south. He has ass cancer now though, and I kinda feel sorry for him sometimes, but he can bit rather nuts from time to time.

I would much prefer to have enough land in a mountain valley somewhere where I can hunt on my land and harvest the meat I need, grow the veggies I want, and be able to comfortably isolate myself from the outside world. But that's just a fantasy anymore.

Branden
 
Yup.
Family on left , Friends on right & this out back.
I take none of it for granted!!
 

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Fuck no. I live in western warshington. Sad, the libs have turned my beautiful state into a shithole.
This is my reason for wanting to leave the Denver area. I didn’t grow up here, I made a conscious decision to move to this incredibly beautiful state. The combination of CA running itself into the ground and this place trying to be CA east is making me want to get the fuck out of here.
 
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Bought a worn-out dairy farm in '89, never looking inside the 'house', as a likely place to train racehorses. It's 13 miles from town. Unfortunately, some flaming liberals moved in across the road a few years ago. Tried to get along with them until they tried to destroy my dairyman/neighbors business by constantly reporting them to the DNR with phony charges. Cut all ties with them at that point. Built a 5-acre wildlife foodplot in the valley, and can shoot out to 984 from my dairyfarmers' loafing shed. We're fairly well insulated from the city nonsense, and the rest of the neighbors are like-minded conservatives, and are loosely banded together as our own informal militia. It's not heaven, but it's comfortable for now.
 
We have almost 100 acres and only 20 of it is "settled". The rest is dense forest, unfortunately I have anti hunters on 3 sides....what kind of dumbass anti hunter moves to the mountains of WV???? Idiocy. Anyway my house is the highest point in the area so everytime I go out to hunt or shoot, these morons will call and complain to the cops who repeatedly tell them its none of their business. I got into a shouting match with the old man a couple weeks ago. I was sitting in my deer stand about 40 yards away from the property line and he pulls his tractor over and just sits there staring at me for 45 minutes. I may have lost my temper a smidge.
Id shoot every single fucking day
 
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No. Bought my place on what turns out is a major thru road. I'm on a slight incline and rednecks love to race up it. Lesson learned but it will out live me.
 
No. I live in a suburb. Been here 8 years. Wife wanted kids to grow up around other kids so I lost that argument. I had my eye on a farm, and still do. Some day, perhaps?
I do have woods behind me, but houses on either side. Both neighbors are older and retired. The couple on one side are never home, always at their cabin in PA. The couple on the other side are very good neighbors so I like them a lot.

But I still want land, and my own place to hunt, roam and shoot.
 
We sold our home in a whitebread suburban neighborhood in the town I was raised. I had been in the home since I was 4, bought it from mom when dad died, 1993, and I married.

Moved to a place in the mountains with plenty of land, 2 creeks and seclusion. I’m almost a mile off the road. Love my “neighbors” and my county. Plus, I have a bear in my AO 🐻

I don’t like leaf peeper season 🤣 but I manage.


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Where we live as far a climate not real happy. Hot and humid in the summer, winter is windy and cold. We have a few weeks of "good" weather. I like in the Kansas City area....if I said the actual town most don't know where it is.

My house is on the smaller side, we built it and I am happy with it. There is not a day that goes by where the weather is something you want to be outside in do you not hear gun fire. Very country. Like many others my neighbors are close enough for help if needed, but don't come over very often. Our chickens burned down our coop, and he came running over, who knows how far that fire would have gone if he did not rush over and put it out. Full on movie type fire.

I can do 100 yards at home, shoot clays weekly. I could do a tad longer but I don't want to battle poison ivy or black locust trees. Just not worth it for the extra 50-ish yards.

We did have an old guy sell off his farm, and they built a subdivision up there. For a while we had a little activist up there making some good some bad things. She got our road done with chip n' seal, that was nice. Everyone on our road chipped in like $500 and the county covered the rest. She also called the sheriff on many people shooting. They came out often. Hi reports on you shooting, yup. Can we see where you are, down here, looks safe have a good day. One day when we had people out shooting clays got him to shoot a few while he was there. Finally they told her that it is legal they have checked every house she called about at least once and to quit, no laws being broken. She also tried to move our area into another school district, she was now "ready" for her 5yr old to go to school. They had a horse, I guess because every little girl needs a horse....felt so sorry for that thing, 1ac at most. They finally moved.

Got a real nice couple from town moving out, saw them out riding bikes one evening, all us old fogies seem to ride bikes, chip n' seal is nice for that. Got tired of all the crime in town moved out here where the shooting is a good thing not bad.

Pretty happy where I am, it is just the weather that sucks.
 
Where we live as far a climate not real happy. Hot and humid in the summer, winter is windy and cold. We have a few weeks of "good" weather. I like in the Kansas City area....if I said the actual town most don't know where it is.

My house is on the smaller side, we built it and I am happy with it. There is not a day that goes by where the weather is something you want to be outside in do you not hear gun fire. Very country. Like many others my neighbors are close enough for help if needed, but don't come over very often. Our chickens burned down our coop, and he came running over, who knows how far that fire would have gone if he did not rush over and put it out. Full on movie type fire.

I can do 100 yards at home, shoot clays weekly. I could do a tad longer but I don't want to battle poison ivy or black locust trees. Just not worth it for the extra 50-ish yards.

We did have an old guy sell off his farm, and they built a subdivision up there. For a while we had a little activist up there making some good some bad things. She got our road done with chip n' seal, that was nice. Everyone on our road chipped in like $500 and the county covered the rest. She also called the sheriff on many people shooting. They came out often. Hi reports on you shooting, yup. Can we see where you are, down here, looks safe have a good day. One day when we had people out shooting clays got him to shoot a few while he was there. Finally they told her that it is legal they have checked every house she called about at least once and to quit, no laws being broken. She also tried to move our area into another school district, she was now "ready" for her 5yr old to go to school. They had a horse, I guess because every little girl needs a horse....felt so sorry for that thing, 1ac at most. They finally moved.

Got a real nice couple from town moving out, saw them out riding bikes one evening, all us old fogies seem to ride bikes, chip n' seal is nice for that. Got tired of all the crime in town moved out here where the shooting is a good thing not bad.

Pretty happy where I am, it is just the weather that sucks.
My oldest boy was ststioned at Fort Riley. He hated the weather and got a transfer to Fort Jackson SC 🤣🤣
 
Nope. It's frickin' miserable here...

Far enough south to fry you in summer and just far enough north to make working outside miserable in the winter... Fucking wind doesn't stop blowing (unless it's summer). There's mosquitoes, ticks, and chiggers... Cottonmouths, rattlers, and copperheads... No trophy deer. And the roads are a joke.

Schools are ranked really low... but it doesn't matter because we can't read well enough to understand the rankings anyway.

Everyone is fat, ugly, rude, and drunk/on drugs. And everything is outrageously priced and taxed. And the police beat people daily.

And the whole state smells like someone put out a refinery fire with raw sewage.

I'd like to leave but I'm too destitute to move elsewhere.

Mike

Must be near Tulsa.
 
There are so many houses being built around Schloss Nitrocellulose, that the place looks like the Oil Fires of Kuwait every day... as they burn off the woods. To build their houses in the woods.

Fucking transplants...

Sirhr

Reminds me of a joke a developer friend once told: "Know the difference between a developer and an environmentalist? The developer wants to build a house in the woods. The environmentalist already has a house in the woods."
 
If we did not have this as our view of our yard from our home, I would sell out and move closer to our son in a heartbeat. However, Brenda Lea wants to be close in to town and I want to be as far away from people (and neighbors) as possible

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I like my house and property, but the town is terrible. Unless you work in the medical field, education, or Air Force, there is nothing. Shreveport is dying a long, slow, protracted death. Amazon is wrapping up a huge distribution center, and will provide many jobs, but it's Amazon and it's not enough. Oh, yeah, it's #25 in the country for murders, per capita.
I live in Benton and have since before it was cool. My quiet road is more like a drag strip now. Major roadway under construction to make it more accessible. My only hope is that the state takes as long to build as they do everything else and maybe I can squeeze out 5 more years and the housing market slows down before I have to jump ship.
 
I live in Benton and have since before it was cool. My quiet road is more like a drag strip now. Major roadway under construction to make it more accessible. My only hope is that the state takes as long to build as they do everything else and maybe I can squeeze out 5 more years and the housing market slows down before I have to jump ship.
Must be a Louisiana Thing. When we finished building our home 28 years ago, it was fairly quiet. Now, after a long succession of neighbors, some good, some ok and some not quite so ok, it makes me wonder. As mentioned above, we still own a beautiful waterfront home on Caney Creek Lake, but life and hydrilla are crowding in at a rate that worries me.

Don’t mind others living around and using the lake, that is what it is for, but life sure changes.
 
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I could be happier having enough land to not have to see our neighbors as well but all in all it's not the worst place I have ever lived not the nicest either but it will do . maybe in the next life if there is a such thing I will be able to say " I am Elmer J Fudd millionaire , I own a mansion and a yacht "
 
Where we live as far a climate not real happy. Hot and humid in the summer, winter is windy and cold. We have a few weeks of "good" weather. I like in the Kansas City area....if I said the actual town most don't know where it is.

My house is on the smaller side, we built it and I am happy with it. There is not a day that goes by where the weather is something you want to be outside in do you not hear gun fire. Very country. Like many others my neighbors are close enough for help if needed, but don't come over very often. Our chickens burned down our coop, and he came running over, who knows how far that fire would have gone if he did not rush over and put it out. Full on movie type fire.

I can do 100 yards at home, shoot clays weekly. I could do a tad longer but I don't want to battle poison ivy or black locust trees. Just not worth it for the extra 50-ish yards.

We did have an old guy sell off his farm, and they built a subdivision up there. For a while we had a little activist up there making some good some bad things. She got our road done with chip n' seal, that was nice. Everyone on our road chipped in like $500 and the county covered the rest. She also called the sheriff on many people shooting. They came out often. Hi reports on you shooting, yup. Can we see where you are, down here, looks safe have a good day. One day when we had people out shooting clays got him to shoot a few while he was there. Finally they told her that it is legal they have checked every house she called about at least once and to quit, no laws being broken. She also tried to move our area into another school district, she was now "ready" for her 5yr old to go to school. They had a horse, I guess because every little girl needs a horse....felt so sorry for that thing, 1ac at most. They finally moved.

Got a real nice couple from town moving out, saw them out riding bikes one evening, all us old fogies seem to ride bikes, chip n' seal is nice for that. Got tired of all the crime in town moved out here where the shooting is a good thing not bad.

Pretty happy where I am, it is just the weather that sucks.
Sounds a lot like Smithville...where i'm at. Fortunately my neighbors don't call the cops for shooting, if anything they come over to join in.

Branden
 
Sounds a lot like Smithville...where i'm at. Fortunately my neighbors don't call the cops for shooting, if anything they come over to join in.

Branden

She moved and that other family moved in. She was never happy out there, very Johnson county and you know what I mean.
 
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Must be near Tulsa.
Hour plus north of Tulsa actually .. 30ish miles from the KS line. Not the middle of nowhere, but you can see it from here.

It's miserable. I would advise no one to ever move to this state.

Mike
 
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Hour plus north of Tulsa actually .. 30ish miles from the KS line. Not the middle of nowhere, but you can see it from here.

It's miserable. I would advise no one to ever move to this state.

Mike

I ran a few races at Hallett years ago....pre 2000, and I thought I had fallen off the edge of the earth, as I remember it was a ways out there.

Fantastic track.
 
I grew up in the town I live in. This has been a great place to live. But the last decade or two, the town has turned into one big hood, including the hood that I live in. So, when I retire in a couple years, I'll be moving from here,

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The nearest neighbors are my wife's sister and BIL across the road, next house is her aunt, next house is her cousin's, and the next neighbor is two miles down the road, and is a good friend of her family's. It's 1017 yards from the shooting bench to the tree line. Almost 500 acres of wooded hunting land. Over 1000 acres of farmland. And a river to fish. Can't wait to get out of this shithole city.
 
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We have twenty acres. Neighbors on each side have twenty acres. We all have shooting ranges in our back yards. I can leave my doors unlocked and my ATV outside with the keys in it. The vehicles also. No one here, including myself, dares to trespass without the neighbors permission. If I hear a noise outside it's an animal and not a human. The neighbors call me when they are hunting and ask me to not target practice until the season is over. Pretty much where I want to be right now.
If you shoot year round the deer get used to it, the range here calls cease fires for deer walking across the packed 100yd range.
 
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I ran a few races at Hallett years ago....pre 2000, and I thought I had fallen off the edge of the earth, as I remember it was a ways out there.

Fantastic track.
Worked out that way several years ago... Stayed in Pawnee. That is some lonesome country. Saw a lot of pheasant though... And, to my surprise, roadrunners.

Mike
 
Where we live as far a climate not real happy. Hot and humid in the summer, winter is windy and cold. We have a few weeks of "good" weather. I like in the Kansas City area....if I said the actual town most don't know where it is.

My house is on the smaller side, we built it and I am happy with it. There is not a day that goes by where the weather is something you want to be outside in do you not hear gun fire. Very country. Like many others my neighbors are close enough for help if needed, but don't come over very often. Our chickens burned down our coop, and he came running over, who knows how far that fire would have gone if he did not rush over and put it out. Full on movie type fire.

I can do 100 yards at home, shoot clays weekly. I could do a tad longer but I don't want to battle poison ivy or black locust trees. Just not worth it for the extra 50-ish yards.

We did have an old guy sell off his farm, and they built a subdivision up there. For a while we had a little activist up there making some good some bad things. She got our road done with chip n' seal, that was nice. Everyone on our road chipped in like $500 and the county covered the rest. She also called the sheriff on many people shooting. They came out often. Hi reports on you shooting, yup. Can we see where you are, down here, looks safe have a good day. One day when we had people out shooting clays got him to shoot a few while he was there. Finally they told her that it is legal they have checked every house she called about at least once and to quit, no laws being broken. She also tried to move our area into another school district, she was now "ready" for her 5yr old to go to school. They had a horse, I guess because every little girl needs a horse....felt so sorry for that thing, 1ac at most. They finally moved.

Got a real nice couple from town moving out, saw them out riding bikes one evening, all us old fogies seem to ride bikes, chip n' seal is nice for that. Got tired of all the crime in town moved out here where the shooting is a good thing not bad.

Pretty happy where I am, it is just the weather that sucks.
Olathe? been there, when our son was stationed at Wichita, I would drive up and do time trials with a group that regularly held races. Very nice people. Actually, Kansas has some of the nicest people I have ever met.
 
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I live on an island on the West coast of Florida. Been here for 40 years and love it. Not on a barrier island - just inshore from that. Would never live on a barrier island in hurricane country. They don't call them "barrier islands" for nothing.

A hurricane comes in and you get storm surge. That's not what happens on a barrier island. Say the storm surge is 10 foot. My house on the island where we sit is higher than that. But, on a barrier island, where you are open to the ocean, Gulf of Mexico in my case, you have to add the wave heights to the surge. CAT 4 Hurricane waves in open water are usually about 10 foot or more. That's a 20-foot WALL of water on the barrier islands! We don't get those waves on our island because the barrier island stops the waves. Never, ever never, buy property on a barrier island. You can always drive 10-minutes to the beach!

That all said, I missed out big time 20-30 years ago. I really wanted to buy acreage butting up to the Ocala National Forest in the middle of Florida. I hunted there many a time and it is just a beautiful part of the state, with rolling hills and mature never harvested pine stands. At that time you could buy acreage there for $10k an acre. Today it's like $100K!
 
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Then this would really piss you off:
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Any given night you can hunt rabbits in 75% of my yard, with iron sights....without a weapon mounted light.

There is a rule.
If I buy a piece of land in the middle of nowhere, ill have at least 3 new neighbors that move in before the ink can dry.
And one of them will be a retarded asshole that should be in jail.
Hell, a close orbit of the moon pisses me off...

This would make me bugshit.

Sirhr
 
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Are you happy where you live?​

In my case, that is a very "timely" question.
Both age and health issues come into play when asking that question. I'd love to live way up one of these mountains in an "off the grid" dwelling I view from my current homestead. My small town has grown into a "Bedroom Community" where people found affordable housing but have a 50 mile drive to work in Missoula, MT. There is no Costco, Home Depot, Best Buy or other big box stores here. There is a nice rural hospital with a competent ER staff, a Sleep Medicine wing and a small Day Surgery wing. Anything cardiac related is transported to Missoula, about an hour away. There is a sporting goods store and a farm supply store here. The lack of competition keeps the cost of supplies on the high side. Airport had the runway extended to the point where the larger private corporate planes can fly in and out. I watch a steady stream come in on Friday afternoon and leave on Sunday evening. People that arrive in private jets have 3 - 4 houses at different locations in the US. During my working years my home was a 40' fifthwheel RV. My neighbors were usually 20' away. Now, I have 6 acres with some breathing room. Town / Post Office / Grocery store / Hospital are 8 minutes away. God worked about 6 - 7 Miracles to get me here.... Timing, money, motivated seller and much more. I have an irrigation ditch running through my property with Water Rights... He put me in the West with the worst drought and gave me water.... My wells here are 30' deep. Property up on the mountain has to drill 1,000'+ for water. No rifle shooting is allowed here on the valley floor. Pistols and shotguns are OK. I can hear the skeet range off in the distance. If my health goes down, I'll trade my place here for a small house in town. Being I am better off than most, I'll say I'm happy here. Back yard photo.

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I live on an island on the West coast of Florida. Been here for 40 years and love it. Not on a barrier island - just inshore from that. Would never live on a barrier island in hurricane country. They don't call them "barrier islands" for nothing.

A hurricane comes in and you get storm surge. That's not what happens on a barrier island. Say the storm surge is 10 foot. My house on the island where we sit is higher than that. But, on a barrier island, where you are open to the ocean, Gulf of Mexico in my case, you have to add the wave heights to the surge. CAT 4 Hurricane waves in open water are usually about 10 foot or more. That's a 20-foot WALL of water on the barrier islands! We don't get those waves on our island because the barrier island stops the waves. Never, ever never, buy property on a barrier island. You can always drive 10-minutes to the beach!

That all said, I missed out big time 20-30 years ago. I really wanted to buy acreage butting up to the Ocala National Forest in the middle of Florida. I hunted there many a time and it is just a beautiful part of the state, with rolling hills and mature never harvested pine stands. At that time you could buy acreage there for $10k an acre. Today it's like $100K!
This man speaks the truth. Live by the Gulf, you die by the Gulf.

Yet thousands and thousands are pouring untold millions of dollars to do just that. Our son lives above the Cat 5 flood level, away from a large cove that is off the Choctowhachee. Still, he knows the way home when the weather threatens.

All this said, even two hundred air miles from the coast, we still get serious damage from hurricanes.
 
I like where I live( N. Ca). Quiet, good neighbors, enough space between houses to allow for a bit of privacy. and a nice creek
running through it. Lots of wildlife as well. I just wish there was good fishing nearby. I don't have time to drive to the ocean to fish.
Politics suck but this is a pretty conservative area.
 
Used to be.. Until everyone from Comifornia moved into Idaho, every piece of available land is getting chopped up into 5 or 10 home sites.
Fucking depressing, I might have to move south to avoid all the people🙄
 
Living in the 'burbs. Need to move, but can't yet. High cost of living area, but house is cheap enough to live in. Once I sell, I should be able to retire comfortably. Until then, there are plenty of reasonable jobs that pay pretty well.
 
Thats literally their yard lights. They are meth heads and cookers, they are mostly active at night, so. Yeah they never turn them off, even in the day.
There seems to be this trend of new houses/owners (presumably not cooking meth.) surrounding their houses with spotlights that are on all night as if they are afraid of the dark, maybe they come from the city and like light pollution but it's fucking stupid.
Shit neighbours sure aren't fun and the dark is nice so condolences.
 
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If you shoot year round the deer get used to it, the range here calls cease fires for deer walking across the packed 100yd range.

We have stopped for deer and turkey.

Story time, a two for one:

I will sit down in my little shooting area and shoot 22 single shot rimfire rifles with no ears (do as I say not as I do children) and just watch the world go by. I have seen owl and hawk sitting in the trees watching me. Once I had all my crap down there shooting centerfire something or another. spotting scope, chrono, notebook lead sled, mower and wagon....all that crap, and I am doing what you do with all that crap, one round, wright the number, where did it go, dot there.....you all know the drill. And there is a noise behind me in the brush. Scarred the hell out of me, I turn around and there is a little doe, not 6 feet away. No idea how long she stood there. Just looked at each other for a sec and she ran off.

Story two.

Not long after we moved out to the country the wife wanted tulips around the house. You know what else likes tulips, deer....must be real yummy. So for about a month I battled deer right up on the porch of the front of the house. For a while just running out there was enough to send them far away. One day they only run a little bit away....oh really. I go inside and grab a hand full of ice cubes, and start tossing them at the deer, they are well inside ice cube range. They watch a few land close by, then I hit one and they all run off. This works for a while till they figure out ice cubes tossed by this old skinny dude does not hurt and they still stand there.....ok time to escalate, out comes the 1970 red ryder, that must hurt as they go running. This keeps them away for a while, but they soon learn red ryder range, and stand about 50 yards away and just look at me. Ok I am done messing around.....out with a "real" gun, and BANG into the ground out front. They scatter. This also works till it doesn't. Then they just stand about 50 yards away and look at me like you can't shoot can you.

The wife planted daffodils, the deer don't eat those.

The first story was a little like this....and yes I like harp music.



This was the view the other night out the back window.

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Olathe? been there, when our son was stationed at Wichita, I would drive up and do time trials with a group that regularly held races. Very nice people. Actually, Kansas has some of the nicest people I have ever met.

I live on the Missouri side, spittin distance from Whiteman.

To derail the thread, all kinds of interesting things coming and going, things we don't see much of. A B2? Big deal, see them all the time. C5 sub 1000 feet, that will make you think something is going on somewhere.
 
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we moved out of the shoreline area due to constant flooding of the streets and our garage.
The New Neighborhood SEEMED perfect to walk the dogs. also the location was good for my MRS( shopping, vet, hair dresser...). Then we had dealings with the neighbors. Twice, irresponsible losers purposely let their dogs loose and they attacked our leashed dogs( once on our own property) OF course being blue state voters( who blame anyone but themselves for what they do), they tried to blame us for those attacks. Animal control sided with us as the victims. However, we liv e in a HOA area and some o fthe neighbors lied to the hoa board about us and our dogs . They trie d to mandate that w e muzzle one of our dogs--WE WERE THE VICTIMS!!.
Tire d of the bs- we cannot stand most of those who live on our street. I keep telling my wife that we live there for her pleasure and for the ability to safely walk our dogs. we avoid most of the neighbors period

if we had a choice, we would live on a large property away from these kind of people. sadly , it is not an option
 
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This man speaks the truth. Live by the Gulf, you die by the Gulf.

Yet thousands and thousands are pouring untold millions of dollars to do just that. Our son lives above the Cat 5 flood level, away from a large cove that is off the Choctowhachee. Still, he knows the way home when the weather threatens.

All this said, even two hundred air miles from the coast, we still get serious damage from hurricanes.

Good for you guys! Most people know nothing about hurricanes. And forget the weather channel - they make their money from spreading fear and panic - well deserved in some cases but even then they always overdue it.

I've lived in hurricane alley my whole life. The first one I remember was hurricane Donna. Hurricanes are all about IMPACTS, which side of the storm hits you, and storm forward motion speed. After staying at home for 3 of them, one 18-hours long which gave me the worst hangover in my life, I coined a new saying for hurricanes: "When the going gets tough, the tough go on vacation!" Now I always leave even for tropical storms. Drive across the state somewhere safe and stay at a nice hotel suite.

Impacts are things that hit your stuff. That's the reason that hurricane rated windows and doors are called Impact Windows, etc. Flying stuff WILL ruin your day in a hurry. Then there's water, which at speed can be as hard as a rock. And on top of that are things that float on the water. Think about the impact your home suffers when a 55 foot 60-ton boat floats in and pounds the side of your house for hours. No house can take that. That's impacts.

And then there's wooden structures. They have no place in hurricane alley, yet people keep building them. Wood flexes, especially in long lengths and worse at the joints.

When a hurricane comes in the wind comes in gusts. The variations in sustained wind and gusts are what causes the flexing. Once you flex wood that way for many hours the structure fails. Think flexing a beer can with your hands.

Even if it doesn't fail, it is now permanently damaged - it will never be as strong again. Been there and paid for it. After 18 hours of hurricane winds pounded on a 27-foot long wood header beam on my sliding glass doors in my all concrete home. After the storm passed I could shake the sliding doors with one hand and they moved in and out a couple of inches. Cost to repair and replace the beam with an 8-inch square steel one, plus new impact sliding doors exceeded $45K.

I have much more to say but this post is now long enough. Want the best protection for hurricanes for your money? Build a 7-foot solid concrete fence (wall is a better word) with really strong footers and columns around your home. I've seen that work in person and it is amazing. The wall does not flex, and it DEFLECTS the wind upwards - goes right over your home.

I went through a hurricane at my brother's home - he built exactly that kind of wall. During the hurricane we went outside on his terrace and just felt a 20 mph breeze. That when the hurricane was exceeding 105 mph winds.
 
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Charlotte sucks. Was a great place to live 30 years ago. Now it’s just another big city with a total Dem leadership (or lack of) package. It’s now run just like every other loser big city. We used to live in the country, but got taken into the city about 15 years ago. We have a small farm on my wife’s family land, and she is so attached to the heritage and stuff. Most of the family has gotten smart and moved, but I feel stuck. Have friends in NE Tenn, and it is so nice there. I would move tomorrow.
I'm about twenty miles north of you in Iredell County. It was to me perfect 18 years ago when I got here. When I transplanted I left all the Northern none sense in NY where it belongs. Seems lately the transplants are just running from the taxes they created there and coming here with their f--ked up ideas. Good thing is so far I don't deal with them much personally except in the traffic congestion they bring with their Audi's and BMW's. Looking at western Virginia. This time with a bigger piece of land for sure.
 
I love ohio. I have tons of matches within 6 hour drive and a excellent club les than 2 hours away. However i live in a neighborhood full of entitled middle management assholes and Karen's. Been thinking of moving about 40 min east to the country but im going to wait until housing price are normal again. Id give a nut to be able to shoot 600y at home.

Same here except my neighborhood is pretty chill. There's only one asshole nearby but he got a lesson in pissing off the whole neighborhood when several sheriffs deputies showed up several nights in a row. After the neighbors tried reasoning with him.
 
Good for you guys! Most people know nothing about hurricanes. And forget the weather channel - they make their money from spreading fear and panic - well deserved in some cases but even then they always overdue it.

I've lived in hurricane alley my whole life. The first one I remember was hurricane Donna. Hurricanes are all about IMPACTS, which side of the storm hits you, and storm forward motion speed. After staying at home for 3 of them, one 18-hours long which gave me the worst hangover in my life, I coined a new saying for hurricanes: "When the going gets tough, the tough go on vacation!" Now I always leave even for tropical storms. Drive across the state somewhere safe and stay at a nice hotel suite.

Impacts are things that hit your stuff. That's the reason that hurricane rated windows and doors are called Impact Windows, etc. Flying stuff WILL ruin your day in a hurry. Then there's water, which at speed can be as hard as a rock. And on top of that are things that float on the water. Think about the impact your home suffers when a 55 foot 60-ton boat floats in and pounds the side of your house for hours. No house can take that. That's impacts.

And then there's wooden structures. They have no place in hurricane alley, yet people keep building them. Wood flexes, especially in long lengths and worse at the joints.

When a hurricane comes in the wind comes in gusts. The variations in sustained wind and gusts are what causes the flexing. Once you flex wood that way for many hours the structure fails. Think flexing a beer can with your hands.

Even if it doesn't fail, it is now permanently damaged - it will never be as strong again. Been there and paid for it. After 18 hours of hurricane winds pounded on a 27-foot long wood header beam on my sliding glass doors in my all concrete home. After the storm passed I could shake the sliding doors with one hand and they moved in and out a couple of inches. Cost to repair and replace the beam with an 8-inch square steel one, plus new impact sliding doors exceeded $45K.

I have much more to say but this post is now long enough. Want the best protection for hurricanes for your money? Build a 7-foot solid concrete fence (wall is a better word) with really strong footers and columns around your home. I've seen that work in person and it is amazing. The wall does not flex, and it DEFLECTS the wind upwards - goes right over your home.

I went through a hurricane at my brother's home - he built exactly that kind of wall. During the hurricane we went outside on his terrace and just felt a 20 mph breeze. That when the hurricane was exceeding 105 mph winds.

Why in the actual fuck do you people keep building out of wood?

I grew up in Puerto Rico (check out how many hurricane tracks have bullseyed it in the last 120 years.....) and rode through probably a dozen of them from 1966 to 1984 in solid concrete (combo of poured and reinforced block construction) homes. Never once did I even ever feel any hint of danger even with cat 3 winds outside.
 
Love my home and property as well as the neighborhood and neighbors. 780 sq.' home paid for and refreshed with all new HVAC, Roof, Siding, Windows, Water Heater, Plumbing, 10 years ago. Building a new garage next year and I hope to die in this home. Love it here if not the politics of the state or the politics of the US.

The only Way I'm leaving this place is if they scrap SS and Medicare in which case I'll sell it (it's worth like 3X what I paid for it) and move to another country. My first home and I still love living here as long as I can stay fed and have medical care as I age.

VooDoo

Gotta love that .gov tit
 
Hour plus north of Tulsa actually .. 30ish miles from the KS line. Not the middle of nowhere, but you can see it from here.

It's miserable. I would advise no one to ever move to this state.

Mike

You lie, and I know it.
 
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Why in the actual fuck do you people keep building out of wood?

I grew up in Puerto Rico (check out how many hurricane tracks have bullseyed it in the last 120 years.....) and rode through probably a dozen of them from 1966 to 1984 in solid concrete (combo of poured and reinforced block construction) homes. Never once did I even ever feel any hint of danger even with cat 3 winds outside.
AMEN!!!!!!!
 
Why in the actual fuck do you people keep building out of wood?

I grew up in Puerto Rico (check out how many hurricane tracks have bullseyed it in the last 120 years.....) and rode through probably a dozen of them from 1966 to 1984 in solid concrete (combo of poured and reinforced block construction) homes. Never once did I even ever feel any hint of danger even with cat 3 winds outside.
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Let the wind blow, ain't going anywhere.

5/8" anchor bolts, and hurricane ties. 2x8 walls, 2x12 rafters, 5/8 plywood on walls, 3/4" plywood on roof.

Heading to Denver today to pick up the steel panels for the roof and framed walls.
 
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Why in the actual fuck do you people keep building out of wood?

No shit. Average American - I'm going to build a fancy house in the probable path of tropical cyclones, set the slab about 6" above the ground, frame using a bunch of wood sticks, and attempt to keep it dry using a bunch of small tabs made from asphalt-soaked fiberglass. By doing this, I can afford to build it about twice as big as needed, and any repair costs can be spread across other homeowners by my insurance company.
 
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