Weight sorting brass

But he’s getting a difference in group size which means there is more to group size than consistent velocity.
his groups are meaningless because he cant shoot and he doesnt know how to measure real precision, but if he uses labradar, velocity is to believe.

for precision it would be better that he puts all shots in one target, so he would have 35 shots in one target. 7 targets of 5-shot groups with floating groups around the targets are meaningless.
 
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his groups are meaningless because he cant shoot and he doesnt know how to measure real precision, but if he uses labradar, velocity is to believe.

for precision it would be better that he puts all shots in one target, so he would have 35 shots in one target. 7 targets of 5-shot groups with floating groups around the targets are meaningless.
Look who showed up with her day drinking hat on! Let’s get that disco ball spinning extra fast 😂
 
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But he’s getting a difference in group size which means there is more to group size than consistent velocity.
And what do you speculate that unknown factor to be?

I should think that same MV would mean same pressure spike and vibration. What else do you think, aside from shooter ability, would result in different group size from loads with the same MV?
 
Looks like both our tests suggest that weight sorting cases is a good practice. Thanks for posting this.

I ,too have come to the same conclusion . I've never shot in any formal competition and don't intend to . I enjoy seeing small groups print on paper, to test myself and equipment / handloading ability. My findings have been ,when every round is as close to the same total weight as I can get it ........groups will be as small as I am capable of shooting with what Im trigger squeezing on a given day......some days are better than others.

Glen Zediker tells a story in " Handloading For Competition " that was passed to him from Mr Berger ( if my memory isn't failing ) about a competition across the pond where they were issued the ammunition...... Long story short , they segregated their rounds by total weight and won.

I guess,when it gets down to the nut cuttin IMO , the more effort and time one puts into their handloading program better results happen......IF one is capable and has a capable firearm........thankfully Im still able to shoot the difference......... sometimes.

@Bryan Zolnikov , thanks for posting your video sir and your thoughts.....I'm enjoying the discussion and the entertainment 👍😁
 
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better to put your time in shooting than in reloading to chase 0.0001' and 0.001gr differences.

and btw, I sort my brass by weight too 😁

Well.........if I spent more time shooting................I'd have to spend MORE time Handloading ,ya see how that works ? And that would take away from my beer drinkin and guitar playin time.......and general fucking off time...........done growed outta my hell raisin time.

Don't have any fancy dancie equipment that measures that small........so you struckout on that assumption..........AND Ya must of missed the part about ,I'm still able to shoot the difference......sometimes ,which is what and all that matters to me, who is the only one that matters here. I care not how anybody else skins their cat.......I skin mine the way I like and want..........Now run along little doggie and have a nice.............................................. shitty day 👍

P.S. " I sort my brass by weight ,too ".........is THE only thing I've seen you post, that I can recall ,that's made some sense . Ain't it getting cold where you live ? Bout time to hibernate ,ain't it ?
 
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not necessarily.
more than I shoot, less time I reload because I dont complicate anymore because it doesn't matter on the target.
Here she goes again. The Volvo driving soccer mom who is angry with her ex husband for divorcing her so he can spend time at the range with his buddies.

Sally, I appreciate the manifestation of your anger but is there any chance that you can leave your disregulated anger and drinking off these posts? There are many vulnerable people out there that might actually take your BS seriously and it would be harmful to their probability of better precision to listen and integrate your nonsensical posts. Would appreciate it if you could hon and we would still give you your desired love. 🤗
 
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But he’s getting a difference in group size which means there is more to group size than consistent velocity.
Yes, great point…when isolating variables that have a meaningful impact on precision, MV is meaningless. Flies in the face of the “velocity nodes” concept but it is what it is. I haven’t found any evidence to support the velocity node concept. Actually, all evidence I’ve accrued is contrary to the concept.
 
Well.........if I spent more time shooting................I'd have to spend MORE time Handloading ,ya see how that works ? And that would take away from my beer drinkin and guitar playin time.......and general fucking off time...........done growed outta my hell raisin time.

Don't have any fancy dancie equipment that measures that small........so you struckout on that assumption..........AND Ya must of missed the part about ,I'm still able to shoot the difference......sometimes ,which is what and all that matters to me, who is the only one that matters here. I care not how anybody else skins their cat.......I skin mine the way I like and want..........Now run along little doggie and have a nice.............................................. shitty day 👍

P.S. " I sort my brass by weight ,too ".........is THE only thing I've seen you post, that I can recall ,that's made some sense . Ain't it getting cold where you live ? Bout time to hibernate ,ain't it
Well.........if I spent more time shooting................I'd have to spend MORE time Handloading ,ya see how that works ? And that would take away from my beer drinkin and guitar playin time.......and general fucking off time...........done growed outta my hell raisin time.

Don't have any fancy dancie equipment that measures that small........so you struckout on that assumption..........AND Ya must of missed the part about ,I'm still able to shoot the difference......sometimes ,which is what and all that matters to me, who is the only one that matters here. I care not how anybody else skins their cat.......I skin mine the way I like and want..........Now run along little doggie and have a nice.............................................. shitty day 👍

P.S. " I sort my brass by weight ,too ".........is THE only thing I've seen you post, that I can recall ,that's made some sense . Ain't it getting cold where you live ? Bout time to hibernate ,ain't it ?
Dude, it’s obvious that markymark is a VDSM who is mad because her husband divorced her so he could spend more time at the range. Chick posts nothing but adversarial nonsense to get back at the guy. we can start calling her Karen 😂😂
 
Yes, great point…when isolating variables that have a meaningful impact on precision, MV is meaningless. Flies in the face of the “velocity nodes” concept but it is what it is. I haven’t found any evidence to support the velocity node concept. Actually, all evidence I’ve accrued is contrary to the concept.

That seems to be the conclusion that everyone who has actually tested it comes to. That velocity nodes don't actually exist. I don't know what I really believe about that, but everyone I have seen who actually has a real statistically relevant amount of testing in a meaningful way comes to the same conclusion, which is telling.
 
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